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Apple is in for a big, long, expensive fight.
Google+Adobe vs. Apple
 
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Apple is in for a big, long, expensive fight.
Google+Adobe+HTC+Sony+SonyEricsson+Samsung+Motorola+LG+Logitech.... vs. Apple

More competition than we think.... :p
 
Honestly
Google is just pissing me off

Like what most said, this is NOT innovating.... this is just copying what Apple is doing....

Competition is good.... only when you have your own idea that parallels a competitor, and does not actually OVERLAP what the competitor is doing....

Apple doesn't allow installation over the air if it's over 20 MB... that's not copying. You guys are saying Google is copying Apple buying up companies instead of innovating? Shouldn't you be more concerned about Apple actually innovating more instead of just buying companies?

iPhone was an innovation, it took an old idea and made it 100x better. iPad was not revolutionary or magical. iPad was taking an iPod touch or iPhone and blowing it up x2. Apple didn't invent the tablet, so in that area Apple didn't innovate. Don't give me the line about the Apple Newton I think it was, there were companies with tablets before Apple.

The Mac computer, that one is a little gray... Bill Gates was working on something else, Steve Jobs and Co. was working on the Apple computer. Bill Gates or one of the other guys purchased DOS from a company, and then they copied the idea of having a GUI.

I think Steve Jobs copied the idea of a GUI from someone else. Apple needed Microsoft in the 90's to survive. If Microsoft didn't partner with Apple, Apple would not be here today. Microsoft is more open the Apple on the PC platform. Windows is allowed to be anywhere, the Windows OS can even go on Macs and Steve Jobs gets angry at people who install Mac OS X on a Windows PC.

The idea that Steve Jobs or Apple in general innovated on things like Multi-core processing is a joke. The only thing I can genuinely personally give props to Apple for is the iPhone (despite its closedness).

The world runs on copying ideas and improving them. You can't bash on Google or Microsoft because you think they're copying when Apple copies. The car industry is full of copying and improving. It's no different than the computer industry. Get over yourselves about Apple being a god. Apple does well with aesthetics on most things, and coming up with the idea of an iPhone. Apple didn't invent the MP3 player, Apple didn't invent a lot of things that Apple fanboys claim Apple invented.
 
Everything they've shown Android Smartphone related is for Android 2.2.

I don't believe this is the case. The Over the Air app install and music streaming are not features slated for Froyo.

I have been watching and the guy clearly said they were going to preview some things in future versions.
 
Google isn't innovating. They are simply buying companies and copying Apple ideas.

In my opinion it doesn't really matter whether you produce the goods by innovation or acquisitions of innovative products/services/companies. It is about what sells. If Apple continues to be much more innovative than the competition they should be rewarded for it, and will be.

It is business. Competition is always good to the consumer. I know most of the news from the I/O conference will annoy Apple profusely but I am looking forward to the (ongoing) battle. Google music, Google TV, Google phone, Google phone OS, Google touchscreen devices. They really are entering most of Apple's markets.
 
Honestly
Google is just pissing me off

Like what most said, this is NOT innovating.... this is just copying what Apple is doing....

I wouldn't take it personally. By the wait the features being touted aren't a direct rip of apple. Apple doesn't have OTA syncing google will. Apple doesn't have multitasking Google does. Apple updates the OS annually, Google updates it much more frequently.
 
Apple = Fanboys.
Google = Robots.

I think I'd rather drink the kool-aid than be a robot.

My search engine can't honestly find a reason for this company to exist, but whatever.
 
I hate web-based Apps. My computer isn't just a browser! There's a reason for GUI and window management. This is what I don't like with Google, they think everything should be in a browser, limited to the browser's capabilities.
 
I don't believe this is the case. The Over the Air app install and music streaming are not features slated for Froyo.

I have been watching and the guy clearly said they were going to preview some things in future versions.

Hmm.. I was thinking that it was going to be shown later in the keynote but it's done now.


You may be right. :eek:
 
I don't believe this is the case. The Over the Air app install and music streaming are not features slated for Froyo.

I have been watching and the guy clearly said they were going to preview some things in future versions.

Yea, the over-the-air app/music syncing is for a later release. Unlike Apple and their need for secrecy and surprises, Google seems to be more open about upcoming features and enhancements. I couldn't imagine Jobs demoing some planned features for 5.x during WWDC next month.

It's also smart on Google's part. That way if, and it's a big if, Apple releases a similar solution Google can't be accused of copying Apple. Even if Apple is able to release the similar feature sooner, we all saw Google doing the same thing before we knew Apple was doing it.

I doubt Apple is working hard on breaking the USB tether. I found it insulting, puzzling, and annoying that I had to plug my iPad into iTunes before I could use it. My iPad was a nice, heavy paperweight for the first few hours of its life before I could get it to a PC with iTunes. It was part of the reason I returned it for a refund.
 
Yea, the over-the-air app/music syncing is for a later release. Unlike Apple and their need for secrecy and surprises, Google seems to be more open about upcoming features and enhancements. I couldn't imagine Jobs demoing some planned features for 5.x during WWDC next month.

It's also smart on Google's part. That way if, and it's a big if, Apple releases a similar solution Google can't be accused of copying Apple. Even if Apple is able to release the similar feature sooner, we all saw Google doing the same thing before we knew Apple was doing it.

I doubt Apple is working hard on breaking the USB tether. I found it insulting, puzzling, and annoying that I had to plug my iPad into iTunes before I could use it. My iPad was a nice, heavy paperweight for the first few hours of its life before I could get it to a PC with iTunes. It was part of the reason I returned it for a refund.

You're right, Apple never demos features coming in an upcoming release. I guess we will find out what features iPhone OS 4.0 has when it is released.
 
Competition is always good to the consumer.

No it isn't. We don't need the same product that already exists with another label. That does nothing except allow one more at the top to slice the profits from this category, those greedy profit grubbing me-too's.

I don't want another version of a product that already exists. What I want is another product entirely, then the consumer has choice. Then I'm happy. That's good for consumers.

This isn't.
 
Google isn't innovating. They are simply buying companies and copying Apple ideas.

Right, because Apple has never bought another company and started using their ideas :rolleyes:

I also fail to see how music streaming, mobile WiFi hotspot, Flash built into the browser, pushing apps to the phone from the internet, pushing driving directions and links to the phone from the internet, crash reports for developers are copies of Apple ideas, just to name a few.
 
I'm sure there is a Google/Android/Chrome/Kitchen Sink forum somewhere for all the Google fans to debate the merits of all this. Instead they just want to come here and talk about how great Google stuff is. You're not part of a pyramid scheme are you?
 
No it isn't. We don't need the same product that already exists with another label. That does nothing except allow one more at the top to slice the profits from this category, those greedy profit grubbing me-too's.

I don't want another version of a product that already exists. What I want is another product entirely, then the consumer has choice. Then I'm happy. That's good for consumers.

This isn't.

So since Palm, RIM, Android, Apple, Nokia, and Microsoft all essentially do the same thing exactly which one should we keep and which 5 should we kill?

If it wasn't for Palm and Android, you probably wouldn't be seeing Apple's half-assed attempt at multitasking this summer.
 
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I'm still waiting on Apple to announce Apple Maps to replace Google Maps, Apple Search to replace Google.. Apple Facebook that only allows beautiful people and of course Apple Twitter.. iJest..

will beautiful in the inside count?
 
Ha ha! To the untrained eye this seem like competition but it ain't. You want to know why? Because the music industry really controls these online music services. It is their intellectual property that is being sold. So Google in all of its infinite wisdom can say hey here is a competitor to itunes. Meh!
Not!!!!!
Sony, Werner Bros etc owns all the music on those sites and they get the lion share of the profits.
Moreover, more competition in the online music services business doesn't lead to lower prices per se. You can't take discounting music, especially on a per song basis using the growing competition argument that more players in the game will help draw down prices. If that ideology was applied to music sales then the artist and the record labels wouldn't make a dime!
Can you imagine buying a Beatle's song like A hard Days Night for .003 cent because there are, hypothetically , 10 thousand online music providers. Music isn't a commodity like coal and nickel.
The labels would go broke.
So, this ain't going to happen since the labels control the prices and no matter where you buy your online music it all goes to the same people. The record labels.
 
I hate web-based Apps. My computer isn't just a browser! There's a reason for GUI and window management. This is what I don't like with Google, they think everything should be in a browser, limited to the browser's capabilities.

I think Google is aware of that, and ideally they'd like to break beyond the limitations of today's browsers, Chrome is a step towards that direction. Time will tell how successful they are, but the future is in the cloud, interface will be platform agnostic.
 
If it wasn't for Palm and Android, you probably wouldn't be seeing Apple's half-assed attempt at multitasking this summer.
+1

we would have probably see a lame half-assed iphone on a still half-assed network this summer; i like what google is doing, competition is good for the consumers.
 
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