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Google Developing Web-Based iTunes Competitor, Acquires Simplify Media for Android Me

Some of you guys are ridiculous.


A lot of you are saying Google only copies Apple.

If you actually watched the conference you will see features that NO ONE has on their phone right now.

Stop being sheep...for ANY company. This is good stuff.
 
DougB541 said:
Some of you guys are ridiculous.


A lot of you are saying Google only copies Apple.

If you actually watched the conference you will see features that NO ONE has on their phone right now.

Stop being sheep...for ANY company. This is good stuff.
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Today is a sad day for Apple hardcore fanboys.

OTA app download? check
Wireless music download/synch? check
Streaming your own music collection anywhere? check

Coming to an Android near you... check! :)
 
I'm stoked for FroYo!

Barring doves descending on iPhone OS4 and declaring new features that haven't been announced yet, Sprint EVO 4G, here I come!
 
ChazUK said:
i'm looking forward to it. Lots of improvements on the way with Android 2.2.

Bring it on! :cool:
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Agreed!! I can't wait to be able to stream all of my songs and videos OTA. All the apps on iTunes couldn't get through my double firewall at home with the iPhone. sucks, so hopefully google has something better and more simple.

Mattie Num Nums said:
This just reminds me I paid $111 dollars for mobileme. Mostly just to keep my email address name:mad:

I still think MobileMe is a good idea with bad implementation.
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Agreed, especially, when you can get a domain name and unlimited HOSTING and bandwidth for $10 a YEAR!
 
kenypowa said:
Today is a sad day for Apple hardcore fanboys.

OTA app download? check
Wireless music download/synch? check
Streaming your own music collection anywhere? check

Coming to an Android near you... check! :)
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watch - this will be coming to iTunes 10, :apple: bandwagon will sing it's praises. u heard it here first :D

marcfogel said:
Uhhh, so is Apple.

I guess Microsoft was way ahead of its time :D
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i knew billy g WAS a bad influence. ;)
 
roland.g said:
Sorry but Simplify Media was a great idea with spotty implementation. Try streaming from a library with over 8000 tracks and see how it takes over an hour to update the library data before you can play a track. I stopped using it a while ago. Honestly, sync and change and get more capacity each revision, but OTA streaming of music catalogs is unnecessary, network dependent and straining, relies too much on having a consistent signal which isn't easy while driving. Not to mention the battery drain of streaming.
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I have over 9000 tracks and don't have an issue. Sure it does take some time to update the library, but if you use it enough, it isn't that bad. The killer feature was being able to stream friends' iTunes libraries to your iPhone and Mac.

What makes me most upset is with the end of Simplify Media and Lala, I am losing two services that I really enjoy and right now there is no real way to replace those services. I loved having my iTunes library in the cloud and accessible from any web browser and I loved being able to preview full track once before I buy. I loved the prices Lala charged for mp3s. I loved being able to stream my entire library and the libraries of all my friends to my iPhone and Macs. And I spent money on Simplify's apps and I spent money on mp3s at Lala, so I am willing to pay for these services. They just won't exist for iPhone and Mac. There is no way to do these things starting next month. Depending on the service offered by Google regarding Simplify, I may consider Android in October when my iPhone contract expires. Apple really needs to start to compete in this area or people like me are going to leave. Perhaps Apple's closed eco-system regarding iPhone development is starting to catch up to them?
 
thetexan said:
Yea, the over-the-air app/music syncing is for a later release. Unlike Apple and their need for secrecy and surprises, Google seems to be more open about upcoming features and enhancements. I couldn't imagine Jobs demoing some planned features for 5.x during WWDC next month.

SNIP
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If you want to see what Apple is up to just take a trip to Vietnam :)
 
kenypowa said:
Today is a sad day for Apple hardcore fanboys.

OTA app download? check
Wireless music download/synch? check
Streaming your own music collection anywhere? check

Coming to an Android near you... check! :)
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The saddest thing about it is iPhone users could be enjoying all those features today. Apple didn't even have to lift a finger to have that functionality, somebody out there already did all of the leg work. All Apple had to do was approve an application and then end users have the option to use wireless sync. That's it, approve it and be done with it.
 
Apple is hopefully workign on this as well, but I am happy that Android is around since it will force Apple to move at the pace of the cmpetition and not at its own sluggish pace.
 
thetexan said:
So since Palm, RIM, Android, Apple, Nokia, and Microsoft all essentially do the same thing exactly which one should we keep and which 5 should we kill?
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Oh, that's easy. In my world 5 of those manufacturers would be producing different products entirely, I wouldn't have to kill off any of them.

thetexan said:
If it wasn't for Palm and Android, you probably wouldn't be seeing Apple's half-assed attempt at multitasking this summer.
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Nice thinly veiled attack on multi-tasking - not sure what it has to do with our discussion here, other than your sneaking it into what I would assume is every single one of your posts? ;)

Again, in my world, there would be no multi-tasking I might be missing because I wouldn't know of that feature because there are no other devices like this that it would be a feature of. Instead there would be 5 other interesting products which were nothing like a smartphone.

Let me explain. Let's take those 5 companies who replicate smartphones, and make them produce another 5 products, all completely different from smartphones and each other. These products are all different and are just as clever as the "smartphone" and therefore are all just as interesting to us in different ways as we find the smartphone.

Now our choices as consumers aren't 'which of this one type of product can I choose' (which degrades into an argument about labels), it's 'which product of these different types do I want'?

That's a world that I believe everyone will be happier living in, because that's *true choice*.
 
I wish google acquired Lala

I use lala all the time, now it's T minus 10 days til it's gone. I wish google acquired it, I know I'd still be able to use it. 10 cents for songs that I only listen to when I'm connected to the web, and a dollar for songs that I want to have as mp3s and I still get to hear it when I'm connected to the web? I'm there. I actually don't care to have the mp3's but often I bought them just because I also got the streaming. Now apple is giving me 10c for the "web songs" I got and of course no money for the MP3's. The best part of the service was the web streaming. I can bet itunes won't let me have songs for 10 cents online.

Say what you want about Google, but when they acquire stuff, they tend to make it free.

When Apple acquires stuff, they tend to make it cost more. Or shut it down. Well as long as those 2 still fight, then it's good for us. The worst would be if the joined up.
 
carmenodie said:
Ha ha! To the untrained eye this seem like competition but it ain't. You want to know why? Because the music industry really controls these online music services. It is their intellectual property that is being sold. So Google in all of its infinite wisdom can say hey here is a competitor to itunes. Meh!
Not!!!!!
Sony, Werner Bros etc owns all the music on those sites and they get the lion share of the profits.
Moreover, more competition in the online music services business doesn't lead to lower prices per se. You can't take discounting music, especially on a per song basis using the growing competition argument that more players in the game will help draw down prices. If that ideology was applied to music sales then the artist and the record labels wouldn't make a dime!
Can you imagine buying a Beatle's song like A hard Days Night for .003 cent because there are, hypothetically , 10 thousand online music providers. Music isn't a commodity like coal and nickel.
The labels would go broke.
So, this ain't going to happen since the labels control the prices and no matter where you buy your online music it all goes to the same people. The record labels.
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You've taken "competition" out of context here. This is indeed competition and the mere fact that another company is in the market DOES impact the consumer.

i.e. itunes or google's contract with the industry can and will fluctuate the price and their profits
 
Game on baby ~~~~~~

SJ and his crew better get hopin or these googalons are going to kick their ass.

cheers
JohnG
 
Peace said:
Google isn't innovating. They are simply buying companies and copying Apple ideas.
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I'd like one of the members here who've been spouting this theme back it up with some substance.

First, why is it intrinsically better to form a team within a company and develop a product from scratch, as opposed to acquiring a company, integrating its engineering team, and releasing a new product, taking some features from each company's portfolio? As long as the results are useful, why does it matter?

Second, if you've watched the announcements today, please explain to me how you get the idea that Google is copying Apple. I saw a good number of features that are not offered by Apple at the moment.

Back up your claims. Don't just throw out generalities. This is a thread about Google's announcement today. How does your opinion above (this is directed to all the members who have shared similar thoughts) relate to this announcement?
 
kenypowa said:
Today is a sad day for Apple hardcore fanboys.

OTA app download? check
Wireless music download/synch? check
Streaming your own music collection anywhere? check

Coming to an Android near you... check! :)
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[1] As we've already established, none of the features mention are coming in the Froyo release.
[2] Obviously a great day for (to use your own words) “Google hardcore fanboys”
 
Peace said:
Google isn't innovating. They are simply buying companies and copying Apple ideas.
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I think the reason for this is because Apple is (highly) profitable in their endeavors.

There's lots of good ideas out there & companies have a choice placing lots of money in an new initiative, with high risk of failure; or copy/follow a known business model, solution, product and having a lower risk and lower payoff.

Most companies only have enough cash or resources to take one or two... if they don't work out, it can sink the entire company. Only the wealthiest companies (MS, Google, Intel) can take on many initiatives and stay unprofitable for a long time, in hopes that one will pay off big time.

MS has poured tons of cash in products like xbox, live, bing; and is still standing. Google, still really makes most of it's money on Search. Gmail, maps, docs, voice are excellent services, but isn't cash cows yet.

Apple has been doing things well (innovation-marketing-execution), and have created at least three cash cows. ... and competitors are taking notice and following.

BTW, I believe that Google is innovating (as well as other companies), they just haven't had the explosive success that Apple has. I also believe it's because not only innovation that leads to success (it's combining it with marketing and execution as well as the rest of the business model).

P.
 
So. Last night I was sitting on the couch watching what little TV I watch, and one of those (many) Droid commercials come on. My wife asks me, "So instead of the iphone, I have a feeling your next phone is probably going to be a droid." I said "Why you say that? all those apps they are showing, I have right now on my iphone."

I do however think Apple better get on the ball and get the iphone on other carriers. right now I see you can get a droid on Sprint, Verison, and even some off carriers I never heard of. Droid will top the iphone just in market share, due to the availability of carriers..

No wonder developers are also porting their apps over to droid. Much more market share to download them. Not sure how much they can sell an app for on droid, nor how much Google takes as their cut.
 
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