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I hate web-based Apps. My computer isn't just a browser! There's a reason for GUI and window management. This is what I don't like with Google, they think everything should be in a browser, limited to the browser's capabilities.

Good Lord, THIS! I hate web-based apps as well. Nifty idea with terrible execution. ISP speeds are too slow and I have a lot of data. I don't want my entire music library on some "cloud" (read: server) somewhere so I can access it at turtle like speeds.
 
I think Google is aware of that, and ideally they'd like to break beyond the limitations of today's browsers, Chrome is a step towards that direction. Time will tell how successful they are, but the future is in the cloud, interface will be platform agnostic.

I hate the term "cloud". It's a damn server. Cloud is a stupid buzz word.

Also, Google is a giant ad machine.
 
Year this one is not as popular as it used to be. This decade brings new spelling pearls like "Apphole" :)

Heh.. my favorite quote of the day (year?) belongs to Google's Vic Gundotra:

"It is critically important to create a free open source mobile OS with innovation at every layer of the stack. Otherwise, we would face a draconian future controlled by one company, one man and one device - a future we don't want"

Amen to that.
 
Apple's half assed multitasking absolutely sucks compared to the Pre's. Neither the Pre's nor Android's implementation of multitasking has really shown to be much of a battery drain either. Quit listening to Steve, he lies to sell phones.

+1.

I've been multitasking all day on my Nexus One including streaming the Cardinals game over 3G for the past 2 hours through MLB At Bat (and I can have that running in the background while doing other stuff!) and my battery meter is still 75% full. I've got plenty of battery to get me through the day, and I'll charge it at night, as I always do.

If the battery only lasts the day, that's fine with me. I charged my iPhone every night too. I can't think of a situation where I'd need to go more than a day without being able to charge, and if it ever comes up, guess what I can do with my Nexus One? I can swap in a spare battery!

Good Lord, THIS! I hate web-based apps as well. Nifty idea with terrible execution. ISP speeds are too slow and I have a lot of data. I don't want my entire music library on some "cloud" (read: server) somewhere so I can access it at turtle like speeds.

No one is saying this will replace traditional storage methods. I can't wait for this. I have a 16 GB SD card in my phone, but over 100 gigs of music. There's not even a microSD card big enough to hold that. So I can have my favorite music on my SD card in case I have no signal, am outside the country, on a plane, etc, but I can still access my entire music library from my phone the remaining 99% of the time. It's a win-win. And yet people still find a way to complain :rolleyes:
 
Pretty much DEAD ON!

I like Google less and less every day and have been for quite some time. They are the new Micro$oft! :rolleyes:

Actually Apple is the new MS, using their dominant position to squelch competition. Apple is more like the big brother they railed against in 1984 then google is.
 
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GamecockMac said:
Are you able to refute their claims?

What claims? I didn't see a link accompanying some random comment on an internet forum. Sorry if I tend to be skeptical about what fanboys pull out of their asses in such a venue. Sue me.

There there teddy bear. Are you normally this hostile? :(

I'd better stop replying I incase you hit me with the rolleyes smiley. :eek:
 
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yg17 said:
What claims? I didn't see a link accompanying some random comment on an internet forum. Sorry if I tend to be skeptical about what fanboys pull out of their asses in such a venue. Sue me.

Google said it in the keynote. I'm guessing you didn't watch :rolleyes:

Lets not let facts get in the way of the fanboy crusade.
 
Yeah, one of the early reviewers of the "incredible" new Droid phone reported that it got a whopping four hours of battery life. That's doesn't suck at all. :rolleyes:

You mean that phone with the gigantic screen and a 1Ghz processor?

Yeah, I'm sure the multitasking killed the battery. :rolleyes:

If I use my iPhone to play nothing but touchgrind I only get around 3 to 5 hours of battery life.
 
Really? When I stream my music from my Mac iTunes to my Apple TVs - I am "making a copy over the network".

Are you saying Apple's technologies enable us to violate content licensing?? Hmm... I better tell RIAA about this one.

Not sure what your point is. If you live in America then, yes, you are making a copy in contradiction to 17 USC 106(1) and/or 17 USC 106(2). It may or may not be fair use.

The difference is that the google scheme smells a bit like what mp3.com tried to do. Google is already involved in a huge lawsuit with content owners. Wouldn't be surprised to see this as an excuse for more to pile on.
 
Okay, here's my problem with this:

It REQUIRES a computer with internet access that's always on when you're away from the house.

Now, outside of the geek community, how many people actually do that? How many would want to do it for that matter with the extra electricity costs and reduced effective lifecycle of the machine in question? What about those who run their iTunes library on a laptop that they take with them when they're out and about, how do you stream on the fly to your Android phone when the source of your files is in a bag by your side? For that matter, how do you stream music when on public transport when mobile networks are notoriously flakey?

Don't get me wrong here, I like the idea of being able to access my media anytime, anywhere but this feels like a massive cludge. The logical solution seems to be to move the media to the cloud. In terms of Apple that would be moving your iTunes account to the cloud with anything you own available to stream (or sync) to any device on-the-fly as well as a local client to manage your libraries just as we have now. THAT would be a killer app as it takes all the convenience factors and removes the need for a home server from the equation while preserving the benefits of the current desktop application model. That, in turn, is something that the masses can and will use which is what you need to be targeting these days.
 
Really? Where could I find this stat?

Just Google it :D It's roughly $10 billion (MS) vs $1 billion (Apple). Here is one source. And Microsoft is not the one who is unique here. It's Apple (with its skimpy R&D budget). For example, Nokia also spends about 8 times more than Apple on R&D.
 
You mean that phone with the gigantic screen and a 1Ghz processor?

Yeah, I'm sure the multitasking killed the battery. :rolleyes:

Oh, so a 1Ghz processor and big screen is the excuse for lousy battery life? No way HTC couldn't have done something to give their latest "iPhone Killer" some "incredible" battery life?

I guess you'll be equally forgiving if the new iPhone doesn't have better battery life than the 3GS, since it will also have a 1Ghz A4, a higher resolution display, and an OS that supports multi-tasking? Yeah, sure you will.

Raise your hand if you think Apple isn't going to improve the battery life on the upcoming iPhone. If your hand is in the air, you're either very ignorant, a Android fanboy, or both.
 
All this means is another competitor for Apple, MS and everybody else. It's not bad or good.

Google is expanding into everything, eventually that WILL come back to bite them in the ass. People will revolt against a company that's in everything, too big to fail and no matter how "un-evil" the company claim to be, they'll start to collapse unto themselves. Every major company will face this problem, look at MS, they already reach the peak to the point that they'll start to go downward while other companies start to appear much more powerful (Google, Apple, Facebook). MS is no longer the single power in the PC industry. Google is already dangerous as it is right now, reaching the peak too fast and they might fall harder than any other company in the past.

It's a vicious cycle and MS will probably become an underdog that people are going to start to like more than Google as MS will probably be smarter from now on, hopefully.

Don't be surprised to see MS and Apple working together more and more as time pass by.
 
Just Google it :D It's roughly $10 billion (MS) vs $1 billion (Apple). Here is one source. And Microsoft is not the one who is unique here. It's Apple (with its skimpy R&D budget). For example, Nokia also spends about 8 times more than Apple on R&D.

Thanks for proving my point from another thread you've been trolling in.

With their "skimpy R&D budget" Apple must have some insanely great engineers to consistently develop and release products that capture the attention of the entire world and force companies spending far more money to constantly play catch-up. How are those Microsoft and Nokia smartphones coming along? :D
 
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