We all know that Apple is very profitable. What's your point? Google is not in hardware business at all. It provides the OS and it looks like this OS is winning the battle with iPhone OS (very reminiscent of DOS/Windows vs Apple a few decades ago)
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We all know that Apple is very profitable. What's your point? Google is not in hardware business at all. It provides the OS and it looks like this OS is winning the battle with iPhone OS (very reminiscent of DOS/Windows vs Apple a few decades ago)
Goolge saying they are the torch-runner of Apples 1984 campaign is one of the most ignorant comments i heard in a long time.
Google now starting to invade homes on TV sets (telescreen) using all the data idiots give them voluntarily al the time to show ads the supposedly resemble your "needs". They will show you theses Ads on the go, too. And of course gather more Data. And so on....
So who is the big brother here.
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGT
seems like an adequate slogan for the troops of Googlefollowers.
Next years Google I/O keynote will kick of with a huge rebranding:
GOOGLE will now be namend= Ministry of Truth.
Google now starting to invade homes on TV sets (telescreen) using all the data idiots give them voluntarily al the time to show ads the supposedly resemble your "needs". They will show you theses Ads on the go, too. And of course gather more Data. And so on....
So who is the big brother here.
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGT
seems like an adequate slogan for the troops of Googlefollowers.
Next years Google I/O keynote will kick of with a huge rebranding:
GOOGLE will now be namend= Ministry of Truth.
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Google make money from ads, software sales and it also charges oem's to add google services to android.
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Google make money from ads, software sales and it also charges oem's to add google services to android.
Thanks Steve.
But seriously mankind seems to dislike privacy, loose focus on they way and turn out to be interchangeable consuming monsters.
I dont like this development. It is getting worse.
Looks like it's winning based on what? One survey that Apple-haters and Android fanboys are having wet dreams about? Some unsubstantiated numbers tossed off at a Google conference? Come back and talk to me when Google is willing to give some numbers during their next quarterly earnings conference call...you know, when lying will actually get the SEC to crawl all over your books with a flashlight and a magnifying glass.
I now see the difference between an Apple fanboy, and a non-Apple fanboy. Apple users don't seem to like options, they like having everything laid out for them and going with what is provided.
The streaming service is an option which is an added feature on top of the traditional method. You don't have to use it, as it's still possible to load up songs on a sdcard and store them locally. However for those of us who do leave our computers on all the time, and for those of us who don't care about buffering songs for a few moments before they start it's a nice option.
For the person who suggested cloud based music instead of based on your PC: There's an app for that on Android called MSpot. It basically uploads your music collection to their servers and you can access it on any PC, Mac, or Android device. They give you 2GB for free and plan to charge for extra space. According to the sites they even have the blessing of the music labels. It's in beta right now but looks promising. Letting my PC be "the cloud" is a nice free alternative aka option.
I wonder if they made an app for the iPhone if Apple would approve it.
The streaming service is an option which is an added feature on top of the traditional method. You don't have to use it, as it's still possible to load up songs on a sdcard and store them locally. However for those of us who do leave our computers on all the time, and for those of us who don't care about buffering songs for a few moments before they start it's a nice option.
For the person who suggested cloud based music instead of based on your PC: There's an app for that on Android called MSpot. It basically uploads your music collection to their servers and you can access it on any PC, Mac, or Android device. They give you 2GB for free and plan to charge for extra space. According to the sites they even have the blessing of the music labels. It's in beta right now but looks promising. Letting my PC be "the cloud" is a nice free alternative aka option.
I wonder if they made an app for the iPhone if Apple would approve it.
Apple says they sold X number of phones: It's the gospel and undeniable truth
Google says they sold X number of phones: They're a bunch of liars providing masturbation material for Android fanboys.
I think I get how it works now.
What part of "during their next quarterly earnings conference call" didn't you get?
I believe Apple's sales figures when I read them after their quarterly reports. That's it. I'll believe Google's numbers if and when they decide to give them under those same circumstances. It's really not that difficult to follow.
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Apple are doing well, Google are doing well....
Why are there people hell bent on either parties failure? I want both to succeed.
Cue the regular "this is MACrumors" comment. For those people, i know that asI'm a MAC user.
Apple are doing well, Google are doing well....
Why are there people hell bent on either parties failure? I want both to succeed.
Cue the regular "this is MACrumors" comment. For those people, i know that asI'm a MAC user.
Confused much? Android OS is free. Google does not sell it and thus does not earn any money (at least not directly). They may not not even mention it at the quarterly conference call. But they do activate android-based devices so they have the data. Some paranoid Apple fans do not believe Google official here but that is their problem.
Oh, so your defense of Google not releasing (for the record) the number of devices sold/activated running an OS that they developed is because it's free and they don't make directly make money off of it? So why in the hell did they make the thing? What purpose does it serve their business? You do agree that they are running a business, right? You're not one of these koolaid-swilling fanboys who think they're just out to "do no evil" and make the world a kinder, gentler place? It's very convenient to say you're "beating" the iPhone, when you don't officially release numbers that would prove it.
Somehow, I bet their shareholders would disagree with all of the above, and would like to see some hard data in the very near future, if they are going to keep publicly nipping at Apple's heels.
OTA app download, App Store app has it already, check...Today is a sad day for Apple hardcore fanboys.
OTA app download? check
Wireless music download/synch? check
Streaming your own music collection anywhere? check
Coming to an Android near you... check!
Wireless music downloads, well iTunes app, check...
Streaming my music collection, Simplify had its app in App Store for a few months now, so well check that, too... (By the way, does that mean I need to keep my home computer on and leave some ports open in my routers? If so, I don't see this as a big deal for many people.)
No need to wait... check...
anyone who thinks competition is bad is a fool. Get your heads out of apple's A** and realize that this will only help improve products for you Apple took half their stuff from other companies anyways.
OTA app download, App Store app has it already, check...
Wireless music downloads, well iTunes app, check...
Streaming my music collection, Simplify had its app in App Store for a few months now, so well check that, too... (By the way, does that mean I need to keep my home computer on and leave some ports open in my routers? If so, I don't see this as a big deal for many people.)
No need to wait... check...
LOL
Don't confuse the Android hardcore fanboys with little things like facts.
You don't understand how competition works. It doesn't mean that the price goes down to zero - the price of anything can never go below it's cost - even coal and nickel won't sink below the price it costs to get them out of the ground.
So, yeah, the cost of music won't sink below some level related to the cost of acquiring music. But the cut that goes to the middleman is certainly elastic, and that price will (and has) changed due to competition. Competition just means that things get cheaper, or stay cheaper; it has never meant that they are free.
1985 - 2010: "Microsoft copied Apple!"
2010 - Near Future: "Google copied Apple!"
Its called competition, people. Competition! Its not the 80's anymore. I mean, come on what about all the other iTunes competitors like Ubuntu One Music Store?
Seems like Microsoft still has a fair amount of catching up to do if it wants to compete with Android.
2010 - Near Future: "Google copied Apple!"
Its called competition, people. Competition! Its not the 80's anymore. I mean, come on what about all the other iTunes competitors like Ubuntu One Music Store?
Seems like Microsoft still has a fair amount of catching up to do if it wants to compete with Android.
The point is that if a mere "copying a content over network" constituted a license violation as you say it does.. We wouldn't see any media streamers be it AppleTV, WD TV, Xbox/PS3, etc. The only difference between what Google wants to and these streamers is that the distribution is done over "wide area" (aka Internet). I don't see how this difference amounts to "copyright violation".
Your premise is wrong. It is a copyright violation, and yet we still see media streamers. These two facts are not contradictory. Go read the statutes I cited - it's clearly a violation of this statute. The thing is it might be fair use, and it might not be worth the RIAA's time to sue.
This is settled law - see the the MPAA's legal harassment of Kaleidescape (for copying one's "own DVDs" onto one's own server and streaming them about one's own house).
exactly. i'll never switch from apple/iphone, but the more the competitors attempt to catch up, the more apple will offer us in return.
win/win.
Let's go Google!!!!
I know almost everything apple does is great, the best products in each category... but they are getting too much power too fast. I think some competition would benefit consumers in general.
I know almost everything apple does is great, the best products in each category... but they are getting too much power too fast. I think some competition would benefit consumers in general.
Don't confuse the Android hardcore fanboys with little things like facts.
Gosh, that seems like an awfully mean and misdirected way to describe anyone who approves of Google advancing the Android platform.
I for one love my iphone and don't see myself switching platforms in any near future, but I would really appreciate android becoming a viable replacement so that apple has to respond to competition.
The fact that there was basically no phone was in existence capable of competing with the original iphone is why we ended up with a totalitarian app-rejection process and an operating system with tons of important and simple features missing for MUCH too long (read: vertical oriented text-messaging, calendar syncing, copy and paste). As soon as android popped up I noticed those missing features being filled in and apps like the opera mobile web-browser app being approved; not to mention projected features like multi-tasking being announced.
Its simple, as google continues to make android a more viable platform, apple will be forced to give people the things it earlier refused to. Everyone wins!
So if using media streamers is "fair use", then it doesn't constitute "copyright violation" does it? Or are you just making some kind of semantical legalese argument here?
Kaleidescape / RealDVD suits were focused on the fact that they break CSS encryption of DVDs, and thus violate DMCA. Streaming content over the network wasn't the factor in these cases. Music CDs are not encrypted, so streaming music CDs doesn't involve breaking the encryption.