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Google I/O 2016: Assistant, Home, Allo, Duo, Android N, and More

MH01 said:
Have you ever worked in any place that had a detailed 5 year roadmap.....good PR material, but not realistic, maybe 24 months max, after that high level goals you want to achieve .

Do you really believe that if jobs was alive we would have the same products today ?
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Steve would have been going bonkers to one up the Echo the moment he saw it.
 
Basically they just throw everything on the wall and see what stick in there and what media talks about for awhile. They love the attention without creating a real product afterall that's how they make money. And by the way that's what Tim Cook trying to do with Apple. Get the media attention and keep making the same old product.
 
Aston441 said:
What is your opposition to having an Echo? You can get a Dot for $90 and it is AMAZING. Why not just get one as a toy to play with? Are you afraid of having your eyes opened to see Apple for what it really is now?
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I don't have any reason to have one. I suppose it would buy stuff from Amazon for me, but that's a bit expensive for that. I use Apple Music, so I can't have it control that. I have a watch, so, I know the temp any time I want. I don't have Smart Home things, so nothing to control there. I don't get an Echo because it'd be a waste of 99$ at a time when I got my hours cut at work.

Getting a little over 100$ less per week doesn't make me amicable to the idea of buying something I can't see myself using much (if at all).
 
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AustinIllini said:
Don't. There are pluses and minuses to both. You're not a chump for choosing one over another, especially when you consider google services are available on both devices.
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Except I could have had an extra $800 and be doing all the exact same things that I do with my phone today. Except force touch that I use exactly once a day to navigate home with Waze.
 
Zirel said:
Apple TV already has Siri.

Nexus Player and FireTv doesn't.
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My FireTV has Alexa. its boring but its there. I miss my Apple TV 1 that was hacked to run tiger. I miss my Apple TV 2 that was hacked to be XBMC. The best things i had with Apple where when they are hacked. lol

Siri has potential but I stopped using it for awhile now.
 
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Frankied22 said:
I don't understand this new obsession with these room devices with a speaker abs microphone that you can talk to. I think most people don't care about issuing commands to a speaker in their room. They can already do all that with their phone or tablet which is always on them.
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A phone tool is completely hands-free. Better than a phone or a smart watch. The benefits are obvious with the right vocal recognition. The problem is, Siri doesn't work.
 
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Aston441 said:
Yes, for seven times the price, SEVEN, my iPhone 6s+ is a little bit better than the Blu One X I just bought as a gift for someone. I think. I'm starting to feel like a chump for being stuck in the Apple ecosystem.
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We're still talking about a device that you use everyday for hours at a time for two years, so I still think it's one of the best objects to spend money on.
 
Wow, Google........At least, you are being innovative and catering to your customers actual needs and wants.....
 
Frankied22 said:
I don't understand this new obsession with these room devices with a speaker abs microphone that you can talk to. I think most people don't care about issuing commands to a speaker in their room. They can already do all that with their phone or tablet which is always on them.
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The same is said about smartwatches. But all love these gadgets! I kinda like Amazon's systems, plus it's prices are pretty good! I would be keen to see what there Echo or Dot is like if they ever go on sale here.
 
coolfactor said:
One must keep in mind that these "free" services being given away by Google are not really free. Every microsecond that people spend using at least one Google service is an opportunity for them to collect more data. Combined with their research and advances into machine learning, which could act on that very data, and the future is looking to be a very interesting (and possibly scary) place. Apple's more conservative approach to their platforms and data handling may indeed win out in the long run. We'll have to see.
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true.
Google services are indeed not "free". The price is high. But they work. pretty dang well. Google knows how to keep services running... While Apple (who clearly doesn't ) is looking into building its own cloud storage and services datacenter...
I am extremely worried.
 
Aston441 said:
Except I could have had an extra $800 and be doing all the exact same things that I do with my phone today. Except force touch that I use exactly once a day to navigate home with Waze.
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Honestly, there are a ton of hardware and software/hardware interaction problems in the Android ecosystem that still haven't been ironed out. The iPhone experience is just so much more premium and like some have said here, many of the feature we're talking about work great in third party apps, which are generally better on iOS.
 
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Michael Goff said:
I don't have any reason to have one. I suppose it would buy stuff from Amazon for me, but that's a bit expensive for that. I use Apple Music, so I can't have it control that. I have a watch, so, I know the temp any time I want. I don't have Smart Home things, so nothing to control there. I don't get an Echo because it'd be a waste of 99$ at a time when I got my hours cut at work.

Getting a little over 100$ less per week doesn't make me amicable to the idea of buying something I can't see myself using much (if at all).
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OK I get that. You could always eBay it later if you didn't like it. I just got an Echo on a whim because I read through the reviews, 25,000 of them (!) and figured something must be going on and I wanted in on it. Turns out, something is going on.
 
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apolloa said:
And the fact Google is evidently aiming squarely at cross platform products is great too, you can use their services no matter what device you have which is as it should be, an open garden approach not a walled garden one.
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This not true, Google only really support iOS and OS X in addition to their own systems for most of their stuff.
 
Aston441 said:
OK I get that. You could always eBay it later if you didn't like it. I just got an Echo on a whim because I read through the reviews, 25,000 of them (!) and figured something must be going on and I wanted in on it. Turns out, something is going on.
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Is it really that great?
What if I already have better speakers?
Is there any use case?
 
Who here remembers Samsung's shake to update? Goddamn there was a great feature baaahahaha
 
apolloa said:
Sigh....

Just like Facebook and LinkedIn and every free game or app you use... they ALL collect your data. Get used to it! Or did you think these things were all "free" as in really "free"?

If you ask me Apple thinks backwards! It wont ever reach the level of integration Google services will, and everyone is building AI including the military!
Google are the ones who 'Think Different' now with services and integration, Apple has shiny pretty interfaces.

And the fact Google is evidently aiming squarely at cross platform products is great too, you can use their services no matter what device you have which is as it should be, an open garden approach not a walled garden one.
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Tell that to WP users?
 
Zirel said:
So... are you asking for a separate device, so you don't use your Apple TV, Apple Watch, iPad, iPhone, and now, Mac?

Real innovation!
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Do you have reading comprehension issues? I specifically said that Apple already has all the pieces. Making Apple Watch work with the AppleTV is one way to accomplish this.
 
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RickInHouston said:
or you could stay laying in bed and just say, "ok google, what time is it?" I'm able to say, "hello thermostat, make it two degrees cooler." with my honeywell without lifting a finger.
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Sure, I guess I could ask Siri what time it is. And in the process wake my wife...

A bed side clock has been a staple for decades. It's seen many iterations, but in the end, something to display the time and produce some kind of noise to wake you should not be rocket science.

I use Alarm Clock. Black background, not too bright a display. 2 big buttons when the alarm sounds. Easy to see and hit, before I put on my glasses. Even adjusts the volume. Starts as low as possible and increases every ring.

Android has the 'Dream" settings, essentially a "what do you want to display while I'm charging?". Choices are nothing, slide show, clock digital/analog. Native alarm buttons are pretty big as well.
 
Frankied22 said:
I don't understand this new obsession with these room devices with a speaker abs microphone that you can talk to. I think most people don't care about issuing commands to a speaker in their room. They can already do all that with their phone or tablet which is always on them.
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You don't understand precisely because you don't have one. The Echo is amazing because of its high quality microphone, instead of the 50 cent piece of junk Apple penny pinches into all its products.

Echo understands you, in a low voice, from all the way across the room. VUI never caught on before because no one likes to shout all the time, and have the words picked up wrong anyway.

Echo has amazing microphone and that is all the difference.
 
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