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Google I/O 2017: Assistant on iOS, Bluetooth Streaming on Google Home, and Easy Sharing With Photos

I look forward to having this on my 7 Plus. Google Assistant is far superior to Siri, but iOS is still overall superior to Android. I just wish that I could replace Siri and Apple Maps with Google Assistant and Google Maps in Car Play and I would be 100% satisfied with my iPhone.

Oh, and Apple should destroy the travesty called iTunes with something redeveloped from the ground up.
 
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The “assisted” home is clearly a two-person race between Google and Amazon now...but I personally find one major flaw in Google’s Home Speaker/Chromecast pairing...Unles I am missing something, doesn't the TV already have to be ON for you to get your queries answered? Speaking for myself, if the TV is turned on, then it’s because I’m watching something already...and if it isn’t, then I’ll need to reach for the remote, and by that point I might as well reach for my phone...right? Until the TV’s have their assistants built-in from the factory and are “always in standby”, ready to show you your agenda or whatever, then go right back to sleep, I am NOT sold. An interim alternative: Have the tiny speakers come with a short-throw projector that throws your answer onto the wall behind it, in those cases when a visual is desired/needed.
 
Zirel said:
If it's a company that uses pre-shared key? Then it's a lame company that just doesn't care.

Any self-respected company has a RADIUS or other WPA-EAP
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For a guest Wifi?

Think Hotel, cafe, restaurant....

The application of his is quiet simple. A self respecting company is not going to have the log on credentials on a card...that's not the application .... Starbucks will...
 
Zirel said:
If it's a company that uses pre-shared key? Then it's a lame company that just doesn't care.

Any self-respected company has a RADIUS or other WPA-EAP
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A lot of companies, hotels, places, etc. have non-public guest WIFI which uses preshared key. Google just eliminated the hassle and cost of managing guest WIFI access.
 
MacsRgr8 said:
Google and Microsoft are trying to use iOS to get all users into their eco-system: apps, cloud, assistants.

I wonder how this will pan out... one winner, or the choice of the 3 big-gun-eco-systems for more than a decade:
– Apple
– Google
– Microsoft
These 3 love-HATE eachother.
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It sucks that there is this 3-way battle, but it's great at the same time. Competition, but lack of compatibility...although thankfully the compatibility part has been greatly diminished. Back in the "ancient" and "dark" days of computing...Apple, Commodore, Atari and multiple PC Clone makers (among others) ALL offered very credible PC ecosystems...but they were 100% incompatible with each other. Who won out? The one with the most "open" platform (PC), and runner-up went to Apple using an air of snobiness and exclusivity to foster the most loyal userbase. The same paradigm is likely to happen here. I think Microsoft is going to have the hardest time staying afloat in the consumer world. Some of their stuff is REALLY good, but always a bit late and all of their strongest "hooks" are in business...so eventually, I think they'll have to retreat to just that arena.
 
ElQben said:
The “assisted” home is clearly a two-person race between Google and Amazon now...but I personally find one major flaw in Google’s Home Speaker/Chromecast pairing...Unles I am missing something, doesn't the TV already have to be ON for you to get your queries answered?
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Chromecast supports CEC which can turn on the TV simply by starting a stream. You'll need to power the Chromecast from the wall and not from the TV for that to work.
 
NT1440 said:
Airpods, MBP, SSO for Apple TV, Universal clipboard, etc.

We've seen them, there were actually exciting products and features in them. Where were you?
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SSO for Apple TV....... yeah blew my socks off , until I like so many others realised this amazing feature was US only....

Seriously this is a lame feature , the Apple TV needs a major update, not a gimmick single sign on... and yes I'm an Apple TV user 4th gen
 
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rtomyj said:
Not at all. One of Android O's "features" is the ease of selecting directions. iOS has had that for years as it knows what is considered a mapping direction, contact, etc. that is AI.

Apple has made some great strides with inter app communication. If you have an address copied in clipboard and go to maps, the copied address is the first suggested direction. Also have seen it where if someone messages you an address and it's still fresh, maps will suggest that address. Has Goog caught on to this or is it in O (think I heard it mentioned).

The keyboard suggests emojis and actually does get better as you type I've found out. Same with Siri.

Suggested apps.
Suggested contacts
Suggested contacts
Etc

Apple is making great strides. They are taking the slow route instead of jumping a cliff and having to climb back to do important things. Honestly made me laugh that Goog is still trying to make text selection not suck.
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I'm thinking about something bigger than IOS vs android. That is a short term battle that apple is clearly dominating based on revenue. What I'm talking about is the next big thing which is consumer facing AI. Right now it's just a speaker that can turn on your lights and answer some questions but in 5-10 year it will be a service that may run your whole life. Google gets around 40k+ search queries a second that they are feeding into their knowledge base and they are creating new ways into search with voice and pictures. Machine learning isn't something you can just innovate your way ahead unless someone creates some vastly more efficient way to collect and analyze data.

Sure apple is making acquisitions and seems to have shifted focus onto AI but it might be too late to catch google for quite some time. It's like both companies are running a marathon and google got a 5 minute head start but every 10 feet google's pace keeps increasing where as apple is maintaining the same pace. Unless apple starts buying or collecting their own massive amounts of data it will very difficult to match Googles machine learning tech. On the other hand Apple tends to be much better at making turning technology into consumer products. Either way the I think the next few years will be very interesting.
 
hubieonekanubie said:
I think it's working just fine!
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Works perfectly for me ;)


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LordVic said:
was added to duing Android M via the Google App.

Long press homebutton on any screen (On a google phone) and it will open up a set of cards with contextually aware information from that screen, so if Someone emails you an address, while your email is open, long press home and you get a card that contextually interprets that address and gives you a "maps" card with that address and directions
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Good on them if it's opt in. Hopefully they don't scrap it in the coming years and leave users in the dark.
 
rtomyj said:
Good on them if it's opt in. Hopefully they don't scrap it in the coming years and leave users in the dark.
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seems to be one of the featuresets they're gungho on keeping around and merging into more functionality. But the risk is there whenever using any google service.
 
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fatalogic said:
I'm thinking about something bigger than IOS vs android. That is a short term battle that apple is clearly dominating based on revenue. What I'm talking about is the next big thing which is consumer facing AI. Right now it's just a speaker that can turn on your lights and answer some questions but in 5-10 year it will be a service that may run your whole life. Google gets around 40k+ search queries a second that they are feeding into their knowledge base and they are creating new ways into search with voice and pictures. Machine learning isn't something you can just innovate your way ahead unless someone creates some vastly more efficient way to collect and analyze data.

Sure apple is making acquisitions and seems to have shifted focus onto AI but it might be too late to catch google for quite some time. It's like both companies are running a marathon and google got a 5 minute head start but every 10 feet google's pace keeps increasing where as apple is maintaining the same pace. Unless apple starts buying or collecting their own massive amounts of data it will very difficult to match Googles machine learning tech. On the other hand Apple tends to be much better at making turning technology into consumer products. Either way the I think the next few years will be very interesting.
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Not at all. Apple has had Siri for years and all those queries get sent to their servers. They have a user opt in program for analytics for iCloud/Siri, health data, and I believe other things. They can use that data. As Apple maps vs google maps has proven to me; Apple might start off slow and clunky but mature into a really nice interface (aesthetically and usability) that rivals Google. All without the ads, and obvious data mining for profit that is going on with Goog.

I mean yes, you are right that Google is in the lead and prolly will be due to their stance on privacy, but Apple has their head in the game with their own tricks.
 
Downloaded the assistant, signed in, and it froze at the logo screen. Worked once I force-quite and restarted the app.

Admittedly, I then tried Cortana, where I signed in, and it froze on the purple screen after that, then worked after a force-quit. So, I guess they have feature parity…
 
Santiago said:
Downloaded the assistant, signed in, and it froze at the logo screen. Worked once I force-quite and restarted the app.

Admittedly, I then tried Cortana, where I signed in, and it froze on the purple screen after that, then worked after a force-quit. So, I guess they have feature parity…
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You must be using an old unreliable iPhone more than 1 year old. Throw it out and replace it with something recent.
 
NT1440 said:
....which is why Apple has been developing their AI offerings for years. They just didn't shout from the rooftops about it. They're also focused on doing it in a way that is strictly on device instead of collecting people's data. Obviously with that privacy concern in place Apple will never likely match Google, but personally I'll take the tradeoff seeing as I don't use assistants all that much anyway.
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You don't use it because apples sucks, plain and simple. Google's isn't a must have but gosh darn it, they're nearing it.
 
falainber said:
Have you seen Apple keynotes lately?
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Amen. Except for Jony's polished product videos—which have become predictable and parodied—the speaker segments resemble a middle school science fair.

Craig is genuine and entertaining. Phil is a seasoned pitch man. Eddy and Iovine are embarrassments. While Cook tries, unconvincingly, to channel Steve. Instead, his cliche superlatives and prepared remarks sound artificial.

Frankly, I think it’s time to ditch live product announcements and replace it with a polished infomercial. I rather see actual people using the product and commenting on its appeal or potential.

And don’t waste my time with market share statistics. Save that for developers. As a customer, those achievements don’t compensate for diminishing product improvements.
 
Google Assistant not yet available in Australia.

One of many things I miss about Android: a whole lot less friggin geoboxing than I get on iOS.
 
So I assume no way to get it if not having a US Itunes account? Android was as simple as changing the google search/voice option to US English and it updated automatically.
 
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cdmoore74 said:
Google assistant has worked 100% so far for me on my 7 Plus. I'm shocked that he did the things I told it so far. If I could only fully replace Siri with it.
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Agreed. I have Been very pleased with using it so far. The only drawback I can find so far is there's no hands free options and you will have to manually open the application. Otherwise, I hope iOS 11/Siri can bring something relevant to what Google has executed with the assistant.
 
Well more options for iOS. Google and Microsoft apps in iOS so why switch when u got 3 main companies in one device.
 
It too bad that Siri cannot launch Google Assistant! I wish Apple in their next iOS update add in Google Assistant as a built-in launch like Siri is now so users can choice which voice assistant they want to use in the SetUp menu. Google Assistant is slouch better then stupid Siri!
 
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