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I never get it why it's always limited to the US, the ****ing music industry are just a bunch of *******. Guess what .. Usenet is open 24/7 in every country. Nonsense behavior from these companies. Non-news as well.
 
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I never get it why it's always limited to the US, the ****ing music industry are just a bunch of *******.
Music, like any other licensed content, has pretty much always has been done differently on a regional basis due to the fact that record labels operated (and still operate) regionally and not globally.

If you wanted to sell your music in another country and have your rights protected (along with your royalties) you often had to deal with a separate entity in that nation.
 
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You mean "open" in the same way that Android is "open"?

Can you elaborate at all? Are you confusing Android OS with a carrier locked device made by Motorola for instance (who are thankfully changing their stance).

Being the previous owner of the HTC Hero, NTC Nexus One and now a ZTE Blade and Nexus S owner, which have all had great open source community support I can attest to how open it is.

There is good and bad in the platform. If you're really into the whole "open" aspect you can avoid the bad thankfully.
 
I have a friend that short sold Microsoft this time last year. Managers refused the deal cause it was seen as insane. He is now laughing to the bank.

IMO Microsoft is becoming a legacy company with a shrinking customer base. Windows 7 saved their ass. IMO, netbooks and netbooks that convert to tablets are going to be their biggest growth. There is a lot of schmucks out there that run apps over ten years old.

I always have to laugh when I hear nonsense like this.

FYI, Microsoft was the 3rd most profitable company in America last year, ahead of Apple with it's incredible run with the iPhone and iPad. "Shrinking customer base"? That's a good one. :p
 
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If nothing else, maybe this will finally force Apple to rewrite (or rethink) iTunes so that it stops sucking.

I love iTunes.

Yeah, I've never understood the complaints about iTunes. It's one of my favorite pieces of software.

I've also never understood the point of putting my own music in the cloud. Local storage is cheaper, more reliable, and requires no Internet connection. I have zero use for this service (and for apple's likely upcoming answer to it).
 
FYI- when you request an invite for the service, the confirmation message says:

"Music Beta is available free for a limited time."

So while it may be free for a long time (or maybe forever), they seem to have service fee in mind. 20,000 songs is pushing 100GB, I doubt they will offer that much storage for free.

Maybe ultiamtely around 1000 songs for free (which would still be pretty useful), something in that range.
 
I really don't understand why people think label support is an important thing.

So what?

The labels can't do a thing about Amazon or Google.

Look at Amazon, beat Apple to the punch w/o the labels AND sells product for less money.

Let's just see how much the labels "can't do". Haven't been following history much, have you?

Hmm that sounds a bit wrong. You have no backup from Itunes if your hard drives crashes.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3033719?start=0&tstart=0

Ever try and move 20,000 songs from one computer to another in Itunes? (about 1/4 purchased from Itunes) Not the easiest thing in the world to do.

Why isn't it easy? I've done it several times. Copy folder to external drive. Copy folder off drive onto new computer. Import into iTunes. That's tough?


At least they know how to look after their developers unlike Apple ;)

Also, it looks like every single person that attended was given a Galaxy Tab free of charge :eek:

Sure that has nothing to do with the "sales" of the Galaxy Tab ;-)
 
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If you like Audiogalaxy, try Subsonic. In my experience, It takes up far less resources on the server side and runs smoother.
 
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Forever Beta.

What a surprise.

Sent from my final, complete, fully-realized iPad 2.
 
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Forever Beta.

What a surprise.

Sent from my final, complete, fully-realized iPad 2.

You're comparing a cloud service to hardware? If you want to compare Apple products to Google's "Music Beta" use "Ping", "MobileMe", and "iWork.com", which should also have "Beta" attached to them.
 
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Forever Beta.

What a surprise.

Sent from my final, complete, fully-realized iPad 2.
Maybe you preferred the "finished/not beta" MobileMe launch ?

Got me @Roessnakhan ;)
 
The iPod classic you're going to buy to hold your music - it better be free right? lol

It's not free, but you pay a one time fee and have all the use of it you want. Rather than paying monthly which does add up...

My whole life I have been an early adopted, on the cutting edge of tech.

Maybe I am now an old man, because I SIMPLY FAIL to see the point in either Amazon or Google's offering.

1. Streaming all media in an age of mobile data caps? Not cute.
2. 8GB, 16GB, 32GB etc. is a ton of space to house thousands of songs locally. No network connection required. Will it hold your entire music collection? Probably not. But you don't listen to your entire music collection all the live long day.
3. If you want access to your entire collection, stream from your own computer via AudioGalaxy or whatever other programs there are out there. AudioGalaxy works very well. Yes, your computer needs to be on. Big deal.

So to recap, use local. If you want to stream, stream from your own computer, but keep in mind your data caps.

Why does a third party need access to all of my files? F that. Google and Amazon are not game changers here. People are flipping out like they're doing something impressive. Keep in mind, I actually really like Google and Amazon :)

+1

You know they legally have the right to search files on some one else's server without a warrant? You put them out in public is the arguement.

Plus, my files being on my ipod rather than streamed, means I have access to them anywhere, in the mountains, when fishing on open water away from most antennas, on the plane, when my 3G/wi-fi connection isn't that good.

And storage space is getting pretty big these days. I don't have as large collection obviously as some people here, but I still have days worth of songs on my collection and it all fits even on my ipod Nano (it would still even fit on my 3rd gen Nano even though admittedly it would be getting close to not to).
 
Can you elaborate at all? Are you confusing Android OS with a carrier locked device made by Motorola for instance (who are thankfully changing their stance).
I'm taking about actions taken by Google that make Android less open than they would like us to believe. A few examples:
Suit Opens a Window Into Google
Google plays ball with carriers to kill tethering apps, violates spirit of the ‘open access’ it bid $4.6B to protect
Google Tightening Control Over Android as Fragmentation Increases
 
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Forever Beta.

What a surprise.

Sent from my final, complete, fully-realized iPad 2.

You're just a hater. Do you ever have any hard core unbiased evidence to back up your nonsense.

Sent using GoGo Wireless - American Airlines
 
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*LTD* said:
Forever Beta.

What a surprise.

Sent from my final, complete, fully-realized iPad 2.
Maybe you preferred the "finished/not beta" MobileMe launch ?

Got me @Roessnakhan ;)

Apple isn't known for that sort of thing. And we've seen that Steve Jobs took action and heads rolled.

But apparently, releasing beta-ware to the public is perfectly fine as far as Eric, Larry and Sergey are concerned. Because that's all they do. Beta crap for suckers is business as usual at Google. Just look at the state of Android tablets. Barely usable. A lot of consumers got conned into buying total junk. But hey, it's ok to experiment on the user's dollar, right? After all, it's open! Well, kinda. :rolleyes:
 
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Apple isn't known for that sort of thing. And we've seen that Steve Jobs took action and heads rolled.

But apparently, releasing beta-ware to the public is perfectly fine as far as Eric, Larry and Sergey are concerned. Because that's all they do. Beta crap for suckers is business as usual at Google. Just look at the state of Android tablets. Barely usable. A lot of consumers got conned into buying total junk. But hey, it's ok to experiment on the user's dollar, right? After all, it's open! Well, kinda. :rolleyes:

I'd rather be able to take part in testing and giving my advice to a company than being force fed a product that you find out doesn't do everything you want.
 
Why do we need a cloud? My PC is my cloud. It's called Orb and it streams all my music from home to my iphone w/ Orb Live, even on edge.
 
Why do we need a cloud? My PC is my cloud. It's called Orb and it streams all my music from home to my iphone w/ Orb Live, even on edge.

Exactly. I have all my music and movies at my finger tips. Sorry don't need or want a cloud service from either company. I know why some might thou. I have access to what I need when I need it. Whether is it from my phone, tablet, or computer to computer.
 
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The way I see it today I can go to http://source.android.com, download the source code and use it as I wish. A lot of people confuse some of the closed source google components (Google Mail, Android Market, Google Maps e.t.c) with the open source aspect of the OS.

The situation with the carriers in the U.S blocking certain applications from the Android Market is wrong and against the "open" mantra I will agree but there is always sideloading and (as mentioned above) the Market isn't a part of the AOSP and is under Google (and its partners) direct control.

I do understand the perceived hypocrisy google extort when promoting "open" Android but from my own experinces and educated choices on which devices I choose, I've had no issues with the openness of my Android handsets. This is my genuine experince with the platform but I respect that others won't see it that way. I do find the discussion interesting tho.
 
My smartphone has a limited battery life. Above all things, I want to have my needs met while not needed to be plugged in constantly. Streaming music, especially on phones with lots of storage space, is not only a waste of battery life but a waste of storage space. Coupled with the need to upload your music to their servers, streaming music to your smart phone is one of the worst ideas I've seen.

I'm with you on this one. I must be missing something because, while this Google offering is technically impressive, I'm just can't see people flocking to use it.

Streaming my music from the cloud is going to cost me! so I'd only ever use it once in a blue moon. I can't see myself uploading 20,000 songs just on the off-chance that the song I want to listen to at that moment is not on my mobile. I just don't get it :confused:

I'm interested to see what Apple do in this space with iCloud...

RTP.
 
Hmm that sounds a bit wrong. You have no backup from Itunes if your hard drives crashes.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3033719?start=0&tstart=0

Ever try and move 20,000 songs from one computer to another in Itunes? (about 1/4 purchased from Itunes) Not the easiest thing in the world to do.

Easy as pie. Unplug USB cable from computer "A", plug in USB cable into computer "B". Open iTunes on computer "B", click file, add folder to iTunes library, select the folder labeled iTunes, walla, done deal. Oh, almost forgot... Place computer "A" (a Dell) in the trash bin.

Do people still 'really' keep their media libraries on internal hard drives ???

eternal hard drives are cheap. Buy two. Mirror them.
 
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