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close on specs??? :eek:

it spanks the iPhone into next week...

Doesn't matter. Bad UI, no multitouch, poor ecosystem compared to Apple's, a fraction of the apps.

200 more mhz and a flash don't mean sweet f all if the software isn't right. And it'll mean even less after the next iPhone update.

There is no question about it - the iPhone will always be remembered as the first mainstream smartphone that brought the 'genre' to a wide audience (at least in the US). But not everybody wants 100.000 apps.

Tell that to the consumers handing Apple those crazy numbers and buying all those Apps.

Your argument runs counter to reality. If not everyone wants all those Apps, how the hell is it that the App Store's growth is so explosive, with no end in sight? Who's buying all those apps?
 
Funny thing though is that our company bought 3000 iPhones and we are going to discontinue all of them due to new security measures implemented at the workplace. IF we cannot push security policies to our phones via AD or a Server these phones are nothing but fancy iPods.
 
Plenty of confusion. Android 2.1? Nexus? Which is it? Wasn't this supposed to be the big Nexus One reveal? It's the Google Phone, right? What? There's already a Google Phone called the "Droid", and the other HTC phone is actually a Google Phone? So what's an Android? LOL. Nice to see Google keeping things simple. :rolleyes:

ONE device. ONE OS. Done well. That's the key. These wannabes want to follow Apple in every way possible, except the one key way in which Apple is so successful. :confused: It's what happens when you focus on the User Experience and not on a PPC model pimped to thousands of smartphones.

What is difficult to understand? I don't need to be spoonfed information and I am quite capable of adapting to use a multitude of devices.

Where do you get all this "one" crap from?
 
Not necessarily. But if it doesn't have an Apple logo on it, I'm immediately suspicious. The device is "guilty before proven innocent", and judging by what's come out of Apple over the last decade and what's been copied and churned out elsewhere, a healthy dose of suspicion is certainly warranted, at least at first blush.

You make me embarrassed to own Apple products.
 
The Nexus One is quad-band and supports HSDPA. How can it not support AT&T's 3G network? Is AT&T using something thats not 850, 1800, or 1900? Are they using something not HSDPA or HSUPA?

What am I missing that prevents this phone from using AT&T's 3G data?

1700 & 2100 for TMo 3G
 
Nice Phone But.......

Yeah it looks like Google has thrown down the gauntlet!!! Still nothing that will pry my Iphone from my hands. None of these new phones will have all the integration that the Iphone Has. Itunes, Mobileme ect..... I just bought Atlanta Falcons season highlights that will never run on my Nexus one. So it's a good phone but ,,,,,. Google writes good software, but Apple writes good software and make great Hardware. Anyway Competition is always Good somebody needs to keep Apple and RIM on their toes.
 
Just more fragmentation in the Android platform... that's 8 version now?
Imagine trying to develop an app to run on all the phones?

Must be as hard as developing an app for a computer company with machines having differing tech specs. :D

At least testing your work is free, and not likely to get canned by the app store filter overlord.
 
32GB microSD card is not yet available

Google said Nexus One is expandable to 32 GB. This is misleading. The phone accepts microSD memory card which is different from the SD memory card.
 
Funny thing though is that our company bought 3000 iPhones and we are going to discontinue all of them due to new security measures implemented at the workplace. IF we cannot push security policies to our phones via AD or a Server these phones are nothing but fancy iPods.

I think enterprise is the one area where the iPhone can't dominate without major design changes. The fact that there are way better enterprise smartphones out there is also what's helping keep RIM and Windows Mobile in the game
 
And when Apple finally puts an OLED screen in its screen, you'll be saying what again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_One

That's the Apple way. Given free license to call their inventions "originals", even when competitors come up w/ new technology in thier device that Apple does't have. Once invented by others, Apple's allowed to copy it, only you can't point that out and STILL claim their their device is THE original.

LOL. What makes the iPhone is the combination of Hardware, design and software. Are you suggesting Google, or Android innovated by using an OLED screen? that is just technology evolution coming from the screen manufactures. Same with the 5Mp cameras. When Apple adds those things, those will be new features to the iPhone, but they will not say it is Apple innovation. If that is the best technology at the time, they would say so even if others use it.

No matter what the Apple haters try to say now (or when the Droid was released, or when Palm came with the Pre), there is no way to compare what the Nexus brings to the table with what the original iPhone, the 3G and even the 3Gs brought with them when they were released. In fact, despite the poor performance, sales-wise, the Pre was more innovative that the Droid or the Nexus one.
 
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Google said Nexus One is expandable to 32 GB. This is misleading. The phone accepts microSD memory card which is different from the SD memory card.

It will accept a 32gb Micro SDHC card.

What is misleading exactly?
 
What is difficult to understand? I don't need to be spoonfed information and I am quite capable of adapting to use a multitude of devices.

Where do you get all this "one" crap from?

Easy. LTD is a typical Kool-Aid drinker. He wants to pandered to. He picked the PERFECT company and forum for that! lol

Why try to show a horse with blinders he's got a one-track mind? I only dispute his claims because it will hopefully help open-minded people (that Apple isn't the end alll and be all) that Apple's getting cocky and lazy. It's a shame fanboys get further tunnelvision even though the competitiors are making leaps and bounds further progress than the once-a-year speedbump iPhone (nice OLED screen, iPhone).
 
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It will accept a 32gb Micro SDHC card.

What is misleading exactly?

Because you can not buy a Nexus One today to match the 32 GB iPhone 3GS. So the 32GB 3GS iPhone today is actually better than the Nexus One in this respect.
 
Apple needs tis even more than we do

I own a 64 GB iPod Touch & a later model Palm PDA. For me there is not that much difference when being pocket sized. When I have the extra space the hardware keyboard makes the Palm much better than the iPod Touch. Wireless works on the Palm. It only works with non protected networks with the iPod Touch.

even though I have an iPod Touch I do not have such a distorted outlook & opinion as so many have here. People forget how many apps there was in the iTunes App Store when the iPhone was released. The Android OS has just started having handsets that are good enough to give a good user experience with the Android OS. Also to be successful the Android does not have to kill the iPhone. If that would be true then we will all have to get rid of our Macs as even with all of the iPod & iPhone help it still sells less than 10% of the market. Since it has not killed the competition & has had over 25 years to do it, the MAC is a failure & MUST be taken off the market. So to be successful the Android OS only needs 5-10% of the market. So do you consider the Mac a success & willing to have Apple have come competition? Or must we all turn our Macs in & get a Dell or HP as they are the only ones that meet your killer product amounts?
 
Absolutely

"Superphone"?

LOL. It's a smartphone, in the same category as the iPhone. No, Google didn't create a new category, it created an iPhone clone with a fraction of the apps, an ugly UI, and no multitouch.

It's just OK. Not revolutionary. If your product is "just OK" in the same category as Apple's product, then Apple's next product update will consign your product to oblivion, or nearly that.

That's the rule when competing in the same handheld space as Apple.

Yeah Absolutely the next Iphone update will probably kill this thing,,,, Why? Cause apple controls the Hardware too !!!!!! Believe it or not I ran into 2 people that had Zunes today, first time in a while. Microsoft tried jumping into Apples playground and didn't work so well. Im glad for the Competition but until a company makes Great Hardware and Software like Apple does,,, it will eventually end up the same,,, How many people you know with Zunes. BTW Apple is usually in the business of dropping new products that break new ground. The Nexus one just like the Zune aren't groundbreakers they are imitators.
 
As always, happy to see more competition in the smartphone market. Still want something with a physical keyboard, though.
 
Because you can not buy a Nexus One today to match the 32 GB iPhone 3GS. So the 32GB 3GS iPhone today is actually better than the Nexus One in this respect.

Wow, because that's going to matter when the 32GB MicroSD ships. What is the 16GB iPhone expandable to?
 
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It will accept a 32gb Micro SDHC card.

What is misleading exactly?

Because you can not buy a Nexus One today to match the 32 GB iPhone 3GS. So the 32GB 3GS iPhone today is actually better than the Nexus One in this respect.

I don't understand what you're getting at.

My iMac came with 1GB of ram but supports to to 4gb. That means apple can advertise my iMac supports 4gb of ram.

Same situation without being misleading at all.
 
Competition

I own a 64 GB iPod Touch & a later model Palm PDA. For me there is not that much difference when being pocket sized. When I have the extra space the hardware keyboard makes the Palm much better than the iPod Touch. Wireless works on the Palm. It only works with non protected networks with the iPod Touch.

even though I have an iPod Touch I do not have such a distorted outlook & opinion as so many have here. People forget how many apps there was in the iTunes App Store when the iPhone was released. The Android OS has just started having handsets that are good enough to give a good user experience with the Android OS. Also to be successful the Android does not have to kill the iPhone. If that would be true then we will all have to get rid of our Macs as even with all of the iPod & iPhone help it still sells less than 10% of the market. Since it has not killed the competition & has had over 25 years to do it, the MAC is a failure & MUST be taken off the market. So to be successful the Android OS only needs 5-10% of the market. So do you consider the Mac a success & willing to have Apple have come competition? Or must we all turn our Macs in & get a Dell or HP as they are the only ones that meet your killer product amounts?

Good Point but one problem,,,, Macs or Computers have a much higher profit Margin than phones or MP3 players,,,,especially Macs. I do agree that it doesn't have to kill the Iphone to be a success. There is room for all of them cause people have different needs. As much as I love my Apple products and always want them to be relevant I would not want Apple to be the only player in Town. Heck if anything Apple being the underdog has always forced them to be more creative and has given us of great products. Sorry Steve Jobs Competition is always good......LOL :)
 
Google Voice is not the be-all to end-all. I have GV (on my iPhone as well), but rarely use it. I had a similar product from AT&T back in the '90s, so GV is hardly anything new.

So the iPhone isn't as good as something from the 90s?

GV really is awesome. The only people that seem not to think so are those who either don't know what it is or who haven't used it. I do everything through GV b/c (GV + ATT a-list == unlimited cell minutes). Going through the website, while cumbersome, is worth it for no minute usage calling. And just to stop the common misunderstanding, GV is voice from your phone to google. From google to whoever else it is data/VOIP.

Other nice features of GV is that it rings all your phones. If you're at home you can pick it up there, if you're on the computer you can pick up your Gizmo5, etc...

Then you have VM transcriptions (which is what I originally through VVM was) that are getting quite good.

Incoming calling management. Don't want work calls after 6pm, you can tell GV to do just that and route all those calls to VM.

GV is what phone service should have been like years ago and it's a shame Apple doesn't want it on the iPhone.
 
Flash is a giant player online. many more options for games if your phone were capable of it. i'm all for flash.

funny how you mention you had a similar app to GV in the 90s and that it is nothing new. i agree, but somehow i get the feeling if jobs were to announce a similar product on a launch it would become this GROUNDBREAKING thing the greatest since sliced bread type of invention. kind of like when they added touch to focus on their camera or the voice commands which were things found on phones long before the iphone came out but yet apple made it seem like there invented it. Apple has a good product but an EXCELLENT marketing team.

I'm all for Flash, if they'd fix it to not be the resource hog it always becomes...on Macs, on PCs on anything it runs.

The thing in the 90's wasn't an app, it was a service...I don't quite recall the name of it, but I had it for a year or two. You got a single number (500 area code I think), and then you programmed AT&T to ring all your other numbers.

I'm not a blind Apple can do no wrong fanboi as you might be suggesting, but I will say that the pattern seems to be Apple doesn't really invent much, they just take what's out there and make it so nice and pretty and easy to use that it feels GROUNDBREAKING.

On the other hand, Google doesn't invent much either. Beyond Wave, what have they done that's new? What Google does is take what's out there, and either buy it or copy it, then make it beta, make it buggy, make it ugly, tie it to some advertising profile they keep on you, and then offer it for free. Even so, there are Google fanbois, just like Apple fanbois, who will think since it's from Google it is GROUNDBREAKING.

Seriously, can you name something they've done that's original (search, adwords, email, voice, chat, operating systems, telephones, etc...none of that is new), and it's usually not better than the original.
 
And when Apple finally puts an OLED screen in its screen, you'll be saying what again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_One

That's the Apple way. Given free license to call their inventions "originals", even when competitors come up w/ new technology in thier device that Apple does't have. Once invented by others, Apple's allowed to copy it, only you can't point that out and STILL claim their their device is THE original.



+1

HP made a touch screen Windows phone in 1999....but the iPhone is still the original :rolleyes:
 
Wow, because that's going to matter when the 32GB MicroSD ships. What is the 16GB iPhone expandable to?

You still don't get it. Some people like me must have 32 gb memory. If they bought the Nexus One today what can they do?
 
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