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Google Launches Nexus One: T-Mobile Plan Available Now, Verizon and Vodafone Coming Soon

*LTD* said:
The iPhone has the most to offer, in the easiest possible package - both for consumers and developers.
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This is a very good point. The ability to integrate iPhone with the rest of your "digital life" is very easy. Read your news and check your stocks in the morning, throw it on shuffle when you jog, watch movies on the plane, control your stereo system, sync with MobileMe etc.

A big portion of iPhone is it's media friendliness. I'm not sure that it would be as popular as it is if it were just a mediocre phone with just an "ok" app store.

It's possible for Google to gain some momentum, just not likely in the first few months of the showdown, and still questionable long term. Let's not forget that many were skeptical about iPhone in the beginning too...

Apple's success will depend on whether they can deliver and innovate consistently though (and they have been able to nonstop), that's been the growing trend for the past few years. Otherwise they will lose it (once again, not likely). Not to mention, an iSlate/iTablet can also improve iPhone sales too... If the new tablet is the new hot product, you may see people who cannot afford the tablet settle for the iPhone...only to later buy the tablet and a Mac.
 
Droid killer

It's pretty clear that the Nexus One won't be an iPhone killer. But maybe its real purpose is to kill off those crude Droids and other physical-keyboard Android phones.

It won't even need to sell well to wipe out the old Android 1.x and 2.0.x phones. The Zune destroyed the PlaysForSure ecosystem (what little there was of it) without selling more than what, 2 million units in 2 years? Zune was a total failure but it still managed to take the old ecosystem down with it.

And when the T-mobile sales droid (pun intended) tells people "It's newer, it's got a faster processor, and the camera has a flash" it'll seal the deal on the spot.

As for Palm Pre and Pixi? Who cares? The presence or lack of Palm phones makes little difference because of their insignificant market share. That's why there won't be a Nokia buyout. (But I digress...)
 
No multitouch is a deal breaker for me. I feel like a muppet trying to use normal laptop touchpad after growing used to the MT on my Macbook Pro, so there's zero chance I'd buy a touchscreen device that doesn't have it.
 
Their app store still sucks

It doesn't matter how nice the phone is. They could have a phone with all the features in the world but if they can't duplicate the success of the app store, they're no threat.
 
I hope its shell doesnt have any "metallic finish" plastic.. All of the Sony/E phones ive had with that its ultimately started rubbing off, which looks really bad, more so on a premium device. :/
 
This seems more like an Droid killer than an iPhone killer to me. I'm sure it has already been brought up, but as someone who listens to a lot of music and likes to watch movies on his iPhone, 512MB of flash is laughable. An SD card slot is a nice feature, but it is unfortunate that it is pretty much mandatory to use the phone as your media player.

And a trackball? I thought we just entered a new decade. :D
 
See bold comments below.

lightpeak said:
1) Droid Phones have a higher resolution and pixel count than iPhone
2) Droid Phones have Google Turn by Turn GPS Navigation True enough. The screen on new devices is nicer, although I have no doubt the next gen iPhones will rectify this.
3) Droid Phones have voice activated search So do iPhones with the google app
4) Droid phones allow you to simultaneously run up to six applications and toggle between them with an on-screen menu iPhone cannot as do iPhones with a 30 second jailbreak. actually, wait, on my 3gs I'm not limited to 6 applications...
5) Because I'm not stuck with a single source phone vendor I can get Droid phones with Qwerty keyboards if I want. that's great. I still haven't me anyone in real life who honestly prefers a real phone keyboard after using a good virtual one for a while
6) When the battery can no longer hold a charge, I can change out the battery myself... Just how productive will you be when you need to send in your iPhone to change out the battery? Just another "Jobs way or the Highway" example... Will you be iPhoneless then? Hasn't happened in two years of ownership, likely won't while I own. it.
7) There are no reports of Droid Phones overheating to the point of catching on fire. :rolleyes:
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sccaldwell said:
It *looked* really impressive at a glance, but didn't seem very intuitive OR smooth to operate. ... But it could just be personal preference..my friend loves his Android phone, but then again he's never used an iPhone. Based on what I saw, I wasn't at all impressed with the usability.
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Same here playing with a friend's Droid. I was polite and said how nice it was but it really felt clumsy.

Kind of like when people ask about my mac viz windows. Yes, they all kind of do the same things but the Mac does them in a way that just feels better.
 
Liquorpuki said:
Their app store still sucks

It doesn't matter how nice the phone is. They could have a phone with all the features in the world but if they can't duplicate the success of the app store, they're no threat.
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What a statement! lol So the phone doesn't matter, only the size of the app store. Sure, buddy... lol sure.

So Macs are less used, but better; quality over quantity. The iPhone app store is bigger so it's quantity over quality. Also -- much like the app store at one time -- Google's app store is just beginning.

Way to have it both ways!
 
eastcoastsurfer said:
2 things that the NexusOne does better than the iPhone off the top:
Multiple carriers
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Kinda. The main complaint is lack of "Verizon" access. This does NOT fix that. In fact by going with T-Mobile which is the same style network, but LESS pervasive than AT&T, they reaffirm Apple went the right way with the far larger and more comprehensive AT&T network, which not only has more coverage and bandwidth, but very granular local service on EDGE, the lower bandwidth backup network, installed by our friends at NSA (bow and pray for the internal spies).

This device has two carrier choices in the USA: T-Mobile and (gag) AT&T.

Swallow that!

Rocketman
 
zhenya said:
that's great. I still haven't me anyone in real life who honestly prefers a real phone keyboard after using a good virtual one for a while.
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me.... having played with my brother's 3Gs and a my old Palm Treo 750... I prefer a physical keyboard any day of the week. Don't get me started on non multitouch virtual keyboards......
 
The device is no big deal, but...

This may be the best Android phone yet, but that's not the big deal in this announcement.

You can run this phone with just a data plan. No voice plan. (Pay by the minute for calls, or use Skype or Google Voice via the data plan.)

Without a voice contract, you cut the cost of ownership dramatically. It's the beginning of the end for companies and phones that rely on traditional contracts, like AT&T and the iPhone.

Next generation of iPhone -- whatever carrier it's on -- will need to offer the same option.
 
Rocketman said:
Kinda. The main complaint is lack of "Verizon" access. This does NOT fix that. In fact by going with T-Mobile which is the same style network, but LESS pervasive than AT&T, they reaffirm Apple went the right way with the far larger and more comprehensive AT&T network, which not only has more coverage and bandwidth, but very granular local service on EDGE, the lower bandwidth backup network, installed by our friends at NSA (bow and pray for the internal spies).

This device has two carrier choices in the USA: T-Mobile and (gag) AT&T.

Swallow that!

Rocketman
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Guess you jumped right in at the end of this thread and failed to read the whole story. :rolleyes:

The phone IS going to be available on Verizon's network in the spring and it will NOT work on AT&T's network. (OK, you can get voice or EDGE, but it's not compatible with AT&T's 3G frequencies)
 
lightpeak said:
What a statement! lol So the phone doesn't matter, only the size of the app store. Sure, buddy... lol sure.

So Macs are less used, but better; quality over quantity. The iPhone app store is bigger so it's quantity over quality. Also -- much like the app store at one time -- Google's app store is just beginning.

Way to have it both ways!
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Your reading comprehension is pretty terrible

I never said the phone doesn't matter. I did imply that the app store matters as much if not more. It says a lot that iphone commercials aren't even about the phone anymore. They're just roll calls of existing apps. Most handset manufacturers are still using a failed business model that assumes if they build a phone that outspecs the iPhone, they're gonna be a threat. They don't get that most iPhone users are attached to the user experience, not to specs. And right now the only thing that's a threat to the iPhone user experience is AT&T's crappy network.

I never said anything about quantity, I just said the app store sucks. Quality and quantity aren't mutually exclusive. The Android app store has the distinction of being both smaller and crappier.
 
A lot of people are forgetting that the software, OS, UI, apps, and the user-friendliness and accessibility of all that, are just as important as the hardware specs.
 
rjohnstone said:
The phone IS going to be available on Verizon's network in the spring and it will NOT work on AT&T's network. (OK, you can get voice or EDGE, but it's not compatible with AT&T's 3G frequencies)
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Tech specs:
http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html

Cellular & Wireless
UMTS Band 1/4/8 (2100/AWS/900)
HSDPA 7.2Mbps
HSUPA 2Mbps
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

It is compatible with AT&T's 3G frequencies. Same as T-Mobile.

To quote an expert:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." Benjamin Disraeli

Just Rocketman
 
Rocketman said:
Tech specs:
http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html

Cellular & Wireless
UMTS Band 1/4/8 (2100/AWS/900)
HSDPA 7.2Mbps
HSUPA 2Mbps
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

It is compatible with AT&T's 3G frequencies. Same as T-Mobile.

To quote an expert:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." Benjamin Disraeli

Just Rocketman
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No 3G on AT&T.

Google said:
The Nexus One is available unlocked or with T-Mobile service. The phone recognizes SIM cards from any mobile service provider using the GSM standard, but is incompatible with the frequency band used by the AT&T and Rogers networks for 3G data. Additionally, the Nexus One is incompatible with CDMA networks such as Verizon and Sprint.
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http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?answer=166507
 
the copy of the iphone thing is funny. apple took existing things in phones and presented and sold it to iphone users the way they wanted it presented to them. iphone is a great device, does many things very well but others are catching up.

what exactly was groundbreaking about apple iphone when it came out?
full multi touch capacitive screen, maybe?
how long til you could mms? over a year?

is adobe still making flash player for all phones BUT iphone or has that changed?
 
NJMetsHero said:
For now, unless an iPhone is on Verizon by August-September, I'm going Android.
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Same here, except that I'm hoping (likely in vain) that there will be an iPhone for Sprint. If there is not, then I'm going with the HTC Hero. Not because I favor Android over the iPhone OS, but because I detest AT&T and am not willing to deal with them AND buy all new phones for everyone currently on my Sprint plan.
 
Just reading around it also going to get flash a lot faster than the iPhone by the looks of things
 
Two weeks ago an old coworker of mine called me to ask my opinion, since I keep track of phones. She wanted to know if she should go with Droid on Verizon (she was already on Verizon, out of contract) or switch to AT&T for the iPhone. I told her the pros/cons of both and suggested Droid. I just got a call from her a few minutes ago saying she went Droid and fell in love with it. I did warn her there'd be a slightly tougher learning curve with Droid but it's so much more capable than the iPhone in so many ways.

She's an average user, her last phone was a Env I believe, or maybe Voyager. I don't remember it was a Verizon dumbphone which are all basically the same. She also let me know two of her friends purchased a Droid after seeing her phone, and she purchased one for her boyfriend as a birthday present. Her friends love it. I have a coworker who purchased two Droids as Christmas presents for her twin sons in their late-teens. I asked how they enjoyed their phones and she said they love them and can't stop playing with the phones. These guys are your average high-school seniors.

To say that Android doesn't appeal to "average" consumers is ignorant. If anyone believes that I really hope you aren't in some sort of marketing position because you obviously have no clue what the average consumer wants.
 
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