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Exactly, it's barely different than any other Blackberry touch phone. It's boring looking and doesn't have the aesthetic touch Apple products do have. I really don't see whats so darn special...

What touch? All Apple products look like boring aluminum/glass bricks. If you wanted to invent something more trivial than that you'd fail. You are trying to spread a myth (I suspect unknowingly so).
 
I don't know what exactly your problem is. If they are not available right now, they probably will be available with the next generation of Flash chips. Google just says "max 32GB", just like Apple (or everyone else) gives "max GB" specs for their computers, regardless if the memory modules are insanely expensive or hard to come by.

It is safe to say that, for the moment, you can't have more than 16GB in your Nexus phone, which might bug some people. But no need to blow this issue out of proportions.

I think you are using your imagination. From what I know, since the original 128K Mac Apple has never given a max memory configuration that is not possible for the buyer to choose. In fact, people go to Apple Store web page and select the memory configuration they want when they are making a purchase.

In this Google case, I don't see Google allow you to buy a 32 gb microSD card together with the Nexus One. So the Google store is an incomplete solution to the buyers.
 
Apple iPhone: 3,756,465 hours of Web surfing with optional cold-fusion battery.

*Note: cold-fusion battery not yet available.




After reading that a Google insider claimed the Nexus One was "an iPhone on beautiful steroids," I was expecting something really cool. Apparently he was wrong about the beautiful part. And the steroids.

Apparently most people agree with this insider rather than with you. And why should not they. After all the phone does best iPhone almost in every spec category.
 
What, the 3GS was such an improvement over the 3G! Seriously, dude, a Compass. A friggin Compass.

While you're right that the specs haven't improved that much, I'd like to point out that hardware specs ARE not that important anymore. It's the software that makes most of the difference (and that makes the Nexus better than the Droid I guess). However, Apple could have done a bit more in the software department in the past 12 months. OS 3.0 was nice but nothing "gamechanging". I guess they've shifted a lot of manpower towards the tablet. Well, we'll probably see on the 26th/27th what they were doing for both tablet and iPhone...
 
So the Google store is an incomplete solution to the buyers.

How exactly is a Nexus with, say 16GB, an "incomplete solution". Is the iPhone with 16GB incomplete, too? :rolleyes:


No, I'm sure as hell not using my "imagination", but my eyes.
 
Google just says "max 32GB", just like Apple (or everyone else) gives "max GB" specs for their computers, regardless if the memory modules are insanely expensive or hard to come by.

"Insanely expensive or hard to come by" ≠ "does not exist."

How exactly is a Nexus with, say 16GB, an "incomplete solution". Is the iPhone with 16GB incomplete, too?

"Apple iPhone 3GS 16GB: Now upgradeable to 32GB."

Disclaimer: Consumer must upgrade to iPhone 3GS 32GB model.
 
It matters because the implication of compatibility is that the thing with which something is claimed to be compatible actually exists.



Ah, so the consumer who buys a Nexus One, thinking he can get 32GB of storage on it because Google says it's compatible with 32GB SD cards, is an idiot?

That sounds like blaming the customer to the extreme.

I smell lawsuit.

You are simply arguing for the sake of arguing. In real world it does not matter if there are 32GB cards or not. It would matter if you needed to store items (files, games, movies etc.) which require more than 16GB but such items do not exist. The important point here is that with Nexus you can have as much memory as you need (be it 16GB or 16TB) whereas with iPhone you have a hard limit.
 
While you're right that the specs haven't improved that much, I'd like to point out that hardware specs ARE not that important anymore.

Yet, the 3GS was basically a hardware specs based upgrade. That's what it got sold on. The video camera was long overdue (2006 phones had video capabilities...) and the compass was... well.. a compass that hardly ever works (interference detected move your phone in a figure 8 to reset the compass so it can start pointing to south as being north again).

So it's a bit hypocritical to say "Apple does everything right" and then go around saying "Competitors selling their handsets on specs alone aren't doing it right".

"Insanely expensive or hard to come by" ≠ "does not exist."

And you've never seen a 4 DIMM Slot system boasting "up to 32 GB of RAM!" before 8 GB DIMM modules were available... right... Seriously, this stupid argument should've died 2 pages ago.
 
How exactly is a Nexus with, say 16GB, an "incomplete solution". Is the iPhone with 16GB incomplete, too? :rolleyes:


No, I'm sure as hell not using my "imagination", but my eyes.

Google said this phone can use max 32gb memory card. After reading this promise, a potential customer goes to its web site to make a purchase. He/She will be surprised that it is not possible to purchase this phone together with a 32 gb card.

He/She may not give up and try to look other places for a 32gb microSD card. As an advertising giant Google should know what I am talking about.
 
How exactly is a Nexus with, say 16GB, an "incomplete solution". Is the iPhone with 16GB incomplete, too? :rolleyes:


No, I'm sure as hell not using my "imagination", but my eyes.

Then please tell me what Macintosh model that Apple over promised the maximum memory configuration.
 
Yet, the 3GS was basically a hardware specs based upgrade. That's what it got sold on. The video camera was long overdue (2006 phones had video capabilities...) and the compass was... well.. a compass that hardly ever works (interference detected move your phone in a figure 8 to reset the compass so it can start pointing to south as being north again).

So it's a bit hypocritical to say "Apple does everything right" and then go around saying "Competitors selling their handsets on specs alone aren't doing it right".



And you've never seen a 4 DIMM Slot system boasting "up to 32 GB of RAM!" before 8 GB DIMM modules were available... right... Seriously, this stupid argument should've died 2 pages ago.

Which Mac are you talking about?
 
You are simply arguing for the sake of arguing.

Sometimes.

In real world it does not matter if there are 32GB cards or not.

Actually in the real world it does, because it means right now you can only get a Nexus One with half the storage capacity of the iPhone. And by the time the 32GB SD cards are available, Apple will probably have a 64GB iPhone. So you'll only be able to get a Nexus One with half the storage capacity of the iPhone then too.

Consumers might want to be aware of that.

It would matter if you needed to store items (files, games, movies etc.) which require more than 16GB but such items do not exist.

Say what??? My 32GB iPhone is almost full (music, videos, apps). Do some of these items not exist and I didn't realize it?

Gotta love the "Sure, the device can only store X amount, but who needs more than that?" argument.

Me, I'd take a 128GB iPhone right now if there were such a thing.

The important point here is that with Nexus you can have as much memory as you need

As long as you need 16GB or less.
 
Apparently most people agree with this insider rather than with you. And why should not they. After all the phone does best iPhone almost in every spec category.

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any mention of video shooting and editing and uploading and mms ing and emailing of such video. That's why I got the 3Gs. Shoots better video than most of my consumer DVCams used to, and shoots SD video that rivals my sony point and shoot that shoots AVCHD 720p. (gawd that AVCHD from Sony looks like smack!)

What I didn't see was the simplicity. Apple got it so right. Everyone seems to be trying to one - up Apple with glam and flash, but all it does is add to the complexity or cluttered nature of the device. Just look at the top bar of the Nexus. What the heck is all that? Notice how Apple just understands design and communication. Networking and data icons on the left. Other notifiers on the right like battery, alarm, etc. And they're separated by a large amount of white space with the time right in the middle. Their size is also much smaller than anything else, letting you know that they're not your main focus.

And then look at the voicemail (gotta admit the google voice readout is pretty cool) and it's too tight and cluttered.

They're close. And in general it's a very nice looking device with more cpu, screen and megapixels. But not sure about the ease of use and interface design. Of course the latest phone is going to have the better screen and processor. You're probably looking at the same specs for next iphone, but with the added beauty of the apple interface design and app store and video and general integration. Not to mention more onboard memory all for the same price. I'll still take the iPhone. But if you don't want AT&T this looks like a nice offering.
 
Apple iPhone: 3,756,465 hours of Web surfing with optional cold-fusion battery.

*Note: cold-fusion battery not yet available.

Don't be ridiculous. Your analogy is totally flawed. Unlike cold-fusion batteries 32GB cards do exist. For example, read this article:

http://www.livbit.com/article/2009/03/05/sandisk-to-unveil-32gb-microsdhc/

They were supposed to be released last year but this did not happen. The latest rumors have it tha the cards will be released in February (much sooner than MacTab, BTW)
 
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any mention of video shooting and editing and uploading and mms ing and emailing of such video. That's why I got the 3Gs. Shoots better video than most of my consumer DVCams used to, and shoots SD video that rivals my sony point and shoot that shoots AVCHD 720p. (gawd that AVCHD from Sony looks like smack!)

Why, you've had sucky cams in your lifetime. :rolleyes:

What I didn't see was the simplicity. Apple got it so right. Everyone seems to be trying to one - up Apple with glam and flash, but all it does is add to the complexity or cluttered nature of the device. Just look at the top bar of the Nexus. What the heck is all that?

You're right, what is all that ? It looks like the top bar in OS X in my Macbook. Such a confusing mess. :rolleyes:
 
Did you see the word Mac in my post ? Because I'm pretty sure I said "a 4 DIMM Slot system boasting "up to 32 GB of RAM!" before 8 GB DIMM modules were available".

You don't speak with your experience. You are imagine.

I went to the Apple page for the latest Mac Pro. This is what Apple said. It does not say anything about 8 GB DIMM. IOW, you are putting words into Apple's mouth. This is a bad habit.

Memory

1066MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM
8-core: Eight memory slots (four per processor) supporting up to 32GB of main memory using 1GB, 2GB, or 4GB DIMMs
Quad-core: Four memory slots supporting up to 16GB of main memory using 1GB, 2GB, or 4GB DIMMs
 
Sometimes.


Say what??? My 32GB iPhone is almost full (music, videos, apps). Do some of these items not exist and I didn't realize it?

Gotta love the "Sure, the device can only store X amount, but who needs more than that?" argument.

Me, I'd take a 128GB iPhone right now if there were such a thing.

Couldn't agree more. Just like regular internal or external HDD, the larger the better!
 
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any mention of video shooting and editing and uploading and mms ing and emailing of such video. That's why I got the 3Gs. Shoots better video than most of my consumer DVCams used to, and shoots SD video that rivals my sony point and shoot that shoots AVCHD 720p. (gawd that AVCHD from Sony looks like smack!)

What I didn't see was the simplicity. Apple got it so right. Everyone seems to be trying to one - up Apple with glam and flash, but all it does is add to the complexity or cluttered nature of the device. Just look at the top bar of the Nexus. What the heck is all that? Notice how Apple just understands design and communication. Networking and data icons on the left. Other notifiers on the right like battery, alarm, etc. And they're separated by a large amount of white space with the time right in the middle. Their size is also much smaller than anything else, letting you know that they're not your main focus.

And then look at the voicemail (gotta admit the google voice readout is pretty cool) and it's too tight and cluttered.

They're close. And in general it's a very nice looking device with more cpu, screen and megapixels. But not sure about the ease of use and interface design. Of course the latest phone is going to have the better screen and processor. You're probably looking at the same specs for next iphone, but with the added beauty of the apple interface design and app store and video and general integration. Not to mention more onboard memory all for the same price. I'll still take the iPhone. But if you don't want AT&T this looks like a nice offering.

Nexus does have video camera. Here is what Wikipedia says:

Camera 5.0 megapixel with video (720 x 480 px at 20 fps or higher), geotagging, LED flash and auto focus

I am not going to get into discussion about the quality of iPhone video vs DVCams. Your point here does not sound reasonable though. iPhone's lens is just too small to compete there and anybody who knws a little about photo/video would have problems believing you (I do not have first-hand experience with iPhone though).

The look and feel of the interface is a matter of preference. The important difference here is that Nexus home screen is customizable and iPhone's one is not.
 
At a time. You can have multiple cards. (Like the ol' Treo 650 days. Ah, the treo 650...)

Sweet, and just like the floppy disc days! "Check this video out. Hmm, I know it's on one of these SD cards somewhere...here it is, no, wait, that's the 2GB card, I think it's on the black 4GB card. Or is it on the blue 4GB card? Frak. And I can't believe my kid lost my 8GB card with my GPS map data on it..."
 
Sweet, and just like the floppy disc days! "Check this video out. Hmm, I know it's on one of these SD cards somewhere...here it is, no, wait, that's the 2GB card, I think it's on the black 4GB card. Or is it on the blue 4GB card? Frak. And I can't believe my kid lost my 8GB card with my GPS map data on it..."

Exactly :) However, given two phones, one with 32GB hardwired and one with a 32GB SD card, the latter is the more flexible choice. (Of course, it doesn't come for free - the slot/card mechanism and card package takes more space, it's a hole that water can get into, the card can pop out and be lost, etc.)
 
Sometimes.



Actually in the real world it does, because it means right now you can only get a Nexus One with half the storage capacity of the iPhone. And by the time the 32GB SD cards are available, Apple will probably have a 64GB iPhone. So you'll only be able to get a Nexus One with half the storage capacity of the iPhone then too.

Consumers might want to be aware of that.



Say what??? My 32GB iPhone is almost full (music, videos, apps). Do some of these items not exist and I didn't realize it?

Gotta love the "Sure, the device can only store X amount, but who needs more than that?" argument.

Me, I'd take a 128GB iPhone right now if there were such a thing.



As long as you need 16GB or less.

OK, you are too emotional to think straight. If your music/video collection exceeds 64GB just buy five 16GB SD cards. You can do it now, you do not need to wait for next iPhone. ANd you will be able to use these cards with your next phone as well (but not with iPhone).
 
"Superphone"?

LOL. It's a smartphone, in the same category as the iPhone. No, Google didn't create a new category, it created an iPhone clone with a fraction of the apps, an ugly UI, and no multitouch.

It's just OK. Not revolutionary. If your product is "just OK" in the same category as Apple's product, then Apple's next product update will consign your product to oblivion, or nearly that.

That's the rule when competing in the same handheld space as Apple.

LTD, you are so right. Apple always remain one step ahead of their competitor(s). Folks have been predicting Apple's demise since 1995.
 
What touch? All Apple products look like boring aluminum/glass bricks.

Your endless anti-Apple trolling grows wearisome. You do realize you're on a website about Apple stuff? :rolleyes:

Time to update the Ignore list.
 
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