Google Mocks iPhone 15 and Late USB-C Adoption in Latest Ad

[Abazigal]

Hahah true but maybe the strategy is more to affirm existing Android customers. Make them feel superior to Apple customers so that they’re less prone to switch sides. It could also give first time smartphone buyers the idea that Android is where you get cutting edge tech. They may lose some people for whom usbc was the deciding factor, but maybe the net effect is positive.

They had better not read this article then.

The Value of a Customer

As I remember it, at least 10 years ago, I began to hear anecdotes from developers who built apps for both iOS and Android about their economics. The story is that they tended to have twice as many…

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The iPhone customer is 7.4 times more valuable than the Android customer. This is more impressive than the 4x rule I had 10 years ago. The reasons are mainly that my anecdotes were from developers who sold products in the US or EU whereas expansion of smartphones to 7 billion global users has drawn in more lower spending customers.

But Apple’s base has also grown to over 1 billion users (650 million store users). This highlights that Apple has effectively grown and discriminated customers effectively. It obtained not just 1 billion customers but the best 1 billion customers.

 

[subjonas]

They had better not read this article then.

The Value of a Customer

As I remember it, at least 10 years ago, I began to hear anecdotes from developers who built apps for both iOS and Android about their economics. The story is that they tended to have twice as many…

www.asymco.com

Not sure what you mean. If you mean it’s not worth it for Google to retain Android customers, then I’d say I think it’s their only play because it’s probably much more difficult to win over iPhone customers haha.

 

[Abazigal]

Not sure what you mean. If you mean it’s not worth it for Google to retain Android customers, then I’d say I think it’s their only play because it’s probably much more difficult to win over iPhone customers haha.

I don’t understand why google is even releasing a smartphone. Do they actually have a long term plan for this, or is it just another vanity project? It has always felt kinda half-hearted to me.

 

[subjonas]

I don’t understand why google is even releasing a smartphone. Do they actually have a long term plan for this, or is it just another vanity project? It has always felt kinda half-hearted to me.

I’m sure there’s some money to be made somehow. But who knows..

 

[DeepWebinar]

i hate how the commercials samsung or google do every year right before a new iphone launch always bring up good points, but they do it in the corniest way imaginable

 

[Colpeas]

more free publicity for iphone 15 launch, good job, Google 😁

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

The problem with these 'adverts' from Google, Samsung, is that they talk constantly about features but not the benefits. One of the first rules of salesmanship is that the two go hand-in-hand.

Like Uunblurring photos is honestly hot garbage most of the time, so much so that Google and Samsung's adverts even have small print that says it may not work on all photos.

I feel like you had to hunt through the features that were mentioned to find one that's a bit naff.

USB-C is ridiculously overdue, and only given under duress. Auto-translating speech on the fly would be pretty sweet. Pixel phones can also constantly Shazam in the background, so if you're in a bar etc, you can see the entire playlist from when you were there.

I love iPhones, great hardware, and slick responsive OS. And yet hate them, due to the locked down, nanny state, highly limited OS.

Most frustratingly, the OS has the same powerful underlying OS as macOS, but it has so many of the capabilities locked away from the user and app devs. As a macOS user, it absolutely does my head in how much iOS is deliberately hamstrung, especially because it is obviously, simply so that users have to buy apps only from the Apple App Store, thus feeding Apple bazillions in profits due to the 15/20% Apple Tax on all apps. A tragically hamstrung iPhone, in the name of profits. Gah.

 

[black_knight]

Exactly. I have never heard a single person outside of this site complain about the iPhone's use of Lightning vs. USB-C. Most iPhone users don't even know (or care) that USB-C exists.

Agreed. I will probably order the 15 Pro, however, I’m not thrilled about USB-C. It’s too bad Apple didn’t make a EU-versioned IPhone and delayed the launch until January/February 2024.

 

[DesiMunda]

Okay and Whatever. I will Still buy AN IPHONE.

 

[Kung]

The "tongue" and mounting is fragile on alot of other manufacturers phones. It can be done right, it's just more expensive.

Apple's USB-C ports are supported by a cast metal frame surrounding it on both sides. 👍 View attachment 2255345
Samsungs on the other hand is a fragile surface mount plastic affair.🤮

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The Pixel appears to be better than samsungs, but still a flappy plastic breaky-offie tongue.

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And honestly, this is 90% of the reason iOwn (lol) iPhones. They're maybe not 'the' most capable (in terms of sheer capability, depending on what features are or are not brought to them), but out of all of the iPhones I've ever owned, *ONE* had an issue (a speaker), whereas EVERY single Android phone I've ever owned has had both software and hardware issues. Granted, phones will be more reliable when the same company is able to govern hardware, software, QA/QC, etc., but that's my point. iPhones are the Toyota of smartphones. Maybe not always the fastest or most capable, but what they do, they do extremely well, and for usually far longer than others.

 

[Delivered]

more free publicity for iphone 15 launch, good job, Google 😁

I think this is a branding exercise and to inform people who think it’s just iPhone vs Samsung that pixel exists. It’s not even really about iPhone as much.

 

[Delivered]

And honestly, this is 90% of the reason iOwn (lol) iPhones. They're maybe not 'the' most capable (in terms of sheer capability, depending on what features are or are not brought to them), but out of all of the iPhones I've ever owned, *ONE* had an issue (a speaker), whereas EVERY single Android phone I've ever owned has had both software and hardware issues. Granted, phones will be more reliable when the same company is able to govern hardware, software, QA/QC, etc., but that's my point. iPhones are the Toyota of smartphones. Maybe not always the fastest or most capable, but what they do, they do extremely well, and for usually far longer than others.

I have had more issues with iPhones new and used than with android new and used. I have had one dud android back in 2015. My iPhone 11 Pro had a randomly green screen. 14 pro was hard crashing and apple had to take it back. Since s10 haven’t had any issues really with Samsung. I’m excluding breaks and damage.

 

[pshufd]

If you want to be the best, you compare yourself to the best (unless you are racing to the number 28 slot).

If you're already the best, you don't have to say it.

Game of thrones "Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king." - Tywin Lannister.

Google's not going to be the best and they've known it for a long time.

 

[GalileoSeven]

Is there really any point/value to this kind of marketing anymore?? Most consumers DGAF about these kinds of things and those that do are already firmly entrenched in either camp (Android/iOS)

 

[pshufd]

Is there really any point/value to this kind of marketing anymore?? Most consumers DGAF about these kinds of things and those that do are already firmly entrenched in either camp (Android/iOS)

This is similar to cars for me. I like Toyotas and my last 3 cars were Toyotas and my next one will be unless someone makes something far more reliable, inexpensive and with low maintenance costs.

 

[Kung]

This is similar to cars for me. I like Toyotas and my last 3 cars were Toyotas and my next one will be unless someone makes something far more reliable, inexpensive and with low maintenance costs.

Same. For me iPhones have been so reliable, and I've been with them for > 10 years, so it'd need to be something truly earthshaking to get me to switch to an Android @ this point.

 

[fourthtunz]

You want to go Google on hardware? Feel free, but I will take being the best over being first any time.

Over a few decades of Apple products in my home, pocket and business, I never experienced Apple being sometimes slow to adopt features originating on another platform affecting me in any negative way.

To read some of the posts, you would think some have suffered immeasurably directly due to Apple not jumping on the USB-C bandwagon as fast as they would have liked. I would love to hear real world, fact-based experiences from some here about how they have harmed by Apple's sometime slow adoption. What were they slow on that actually caused you or your business to lose money, contracts or produce lower quality work? Taking a bit longer for a file to be moved to or from an iPhone doesn't qualify as harm.

I think it’s that lightning could’ve been a faster protocol and they hobbled it with USB 2 speed, and and you have to use their cables. If you want full charging speed is that kind of Niggli ******** that Apple does.

 

[VisceralRealist]

Now that Apple is switching to USB-C, Samsung will make an ad mocking the change, then promptly copy Apple and switch to USB-C the following year.

Oh wait...

 

[AgeOfSpiracles]

yes and what is a good cheap new phone cost on apple’s website?
a lot more than a samsung a54 which is around 300 usd and with a large sdcard 512gb as an add on you are under 350

the se iphone is over 500 usd and goes up to 256gb
the 12 iphone is over 600 usd and goes up to 256gb
you need the 13 and you have to spend 899 to get 512gb storage.

I understand that at times if you have a business showing off a highend phone is good but reality is apple cant touch the samsung a54 price+performance wise.

Since they are far more money to beat it. ie the iphone 13 with 512gb beats a samsung a54 with a 512gb sd card.

but is 899 vs 325.

Oh please. Value is not one-dimensional and is not universal. If local storage is literally all you care about, then I guess? But overall the a54 is cheap garbage in comparison. I've used one... it's fine for what it is, but it's definitely a $300 phone.

Do you shop for a PC based solely on HDD size? A car based solely on trunk space? If you do and that meets your needs, then fine. But don't pretend that is some platonic truth.

 

[black_knight]

Oh please. Value is not one-dimensional and is not universal. If local storage is literally all you care about, then I guess? But overall the a54 is cheap garbage in comparison. I've used one... it's fine for what it is, but it's definitely a $300 phone.

Do you shop for a PC based solely on HDD size? A car based solely on trunk space? If you do and that meets your needs, then fine. But don't pretend that is some platonic truth.

Exactly. Even if his/her anecdotes are true (on the topic of price), it’s $300 for a reason. iPhones hold their value, unlike their Android competition.

 

[Darth Tulhu]

I used Samsung phones exclusively between the iPhone 4s and the iPhone 12 (!), and I was happy as ever. Tons of features Apple didn't have, customization up the wazoo, I mean, those devices were ahead of Apple a few generations.

But once I came back to the Mac (well, I never left, but was waiting out the butterfly garbage on aging hardware) and the iPad (Pro), I just ain't leaving. Ever. M1 and the A-series suddenly changed things for me.

The M2 MBA, iPhone, iPad, Watch, AirPods, and iCloud+ (Apple One) combo is just TOO good, rock-solid, buttery smooth and just a joy to use.

The consistency between devices, the seamless integration... I mean, Apple made it so easy it's almost TOO easy. It seems I spend LESS time "computing" because I get stuff done QUICK. I'm in and out, smooth as silk.

I'm living and loving the old Steve Jobs iLife dream, and I AIN'T waking up.

 

[Colpeas]

I think this is a branding exercise and to inform people who think it’s just iPhone vs Samsung that pixel exists. It’s not even really about iPhone as much.

I think on the other hand that ads like focus more on what iphone can’t do than on what the XY competitor can.

 

[philipma1957]

Agreed. I will probably order the 15 Pro, however, I’m not thrilled about USB-C. It’s too bad Apple didn’t make a EU-versioned IPhone and delayed the launch until January/February 2024.

sorry for your loss.

 

[deevey]

I don’t understand why google is even releasing a smartphone. Do they actually have a long term plan for this, or is it just another vanity project? It has always felt kinda half-hearted to me.

Android customers are Google customers. Their App store revenue is pocket change compared to search, targeted advertising and analytics (their actual business).

Their phone division makes money, even if it feels half-hearted, its pretty successful and very useful to have your own Phone to explore future technologies in-house that they might otherwise need a partner for.

 

[jlwarlow]

Just curious why, if a lot of your family is on iPhone, why WhatsApp is a major concern for you? Also, RCS isn't universally supported by Android, only the relatively latest models that still have support do. So those family members not on iPhones have recent model Androids that all support RCS?

My immediate family all have iPhone but our wider family and friends are a mix so everyone is on WhatsApp. My wife and kids stay in Whatsapp (my kids even phone me via whatsapp; even though they have unlimited minutes!). I have groups in Whatsapp and iMessage depending on who I'm messaging - I prefer iMessage, especially the threaded replies.