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I see people regurgitating stuff from 5 years ago. Android has come a long way since of you so called "android users" actually used Android. Grab almost any Android phone from 2016/17 and the experience is quite polished.
I have, right up to the latest Samsung Galaxy flagship and the Google Pixel, and the experience is FAR from "polished"...
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Forum people talk waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much about software platforms, bickering over them like toddlers in a tantrum. I'll simplify it because it's really VERY simple - Android is complete and utter bollocks.
Well put!
 
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Nice to see those numb nuts over at Google once again ripping off functions we on the iOS side of the pond have been enjoying for years, and with little delay in receiving, unlike many sad souls on the Android pond whom almost no one ever sees any updates for their devices...

Stay classy Google, and keep those photocopiers a rollin'!
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And how long do you folks receive updates for? That's right, no more than 18 months from first release of the device, so those who bought a Nexus or Pixel mid way thru it's production run won't even get a year worth of updates!

iPhone's? We get updates for YEARS. Yeah, still a nightmare on Android!


This is hilarious. Really ios never copies google? Actionable notifications? And done in an inferior manner at that. iOs also wisely copied grouping notifications and then strangely removed this great feature. I'm sure there are lots of other things that have been copied but those are two I can think of at the moment.

Nexus devices get security updates around monthly so that's actually more often than I get an ios update. Non Nexus device are definitely super fragmented with older versions of Android and actual OS updates which definitely hurts Android as an OS.

I've said it before I'll say it again Androids advantages: More features (sure some are gimmicks but so are some of iOs's), far superior notifications systems (grouping by app is so much more efficient and less steps to action from a notification), customization (I like themed icons loved winterboard back in the day) cleaner springboard (some useful widgets, place icons where you want no auto top left corner) No walled garden on google applications.

Biggest one with iOs and it's important is that it runs so much more efficiently processing power wise and thus phones are usable for longer periods of time (I'm still using a nearly 4 year old 5S and it runs at least as well as my amost two year old Nexus 6p, you get updates right away, if you like apple's apps (I honestly don't use most of them because I need to interact with Android users) you can't get those on Android.

Bottom line, user experience for me advantage Android. Performance of OS, advantage iOs.

If Oreo really improves performance a pure google phone is going to be pretty nice.

They both copy each other and who cares it's better for us consumers both users get a better OS and user experience. If anything iOs needs to start copying more android features then I probably wouldn't even think twice about an Android device. Competition is good for us consumers and both OS's are really top tier at this point.

I hate people who say one or the other are lousy. They're actually both really good and seem to have the opposite advantages and disadvantages so kinda depends which is more important to you. For people who upgrade every year a pure Android device will probably give the best overall user experience in my opinion. I use both and can compare them pretty accurately. Both also need a learning curve if you are used to the other.
 
The WORST feature of Android is that the user has no control over upgrading the OS. It's all dependent on the carrier. No and heck NO.
 
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This is hilarious. Really ios never copies google? Actionable notifications? And done in an inferior manner at that. iOs also wisely copied grouping notifications and then strangely removed this great feature. I'm sure there are lots of other things that have been copied but those are two I can think of at the moment.

Nexus devices get security updates around monthly so that's actually more often than I get an ios update. Non Nexus device are definitely super fragmented with older versions of Android and actual OS updates which definitely hurts Android as an OS.

I've said it before I'll say it again Androids advantages: More features (sure some are gimmicks but so are some of iOs's), far superior notifications systems (grouping by app is so much more efficient and less steps to action from a notification), customization (I like themed icons loved winterboard back in the day) cleaner springboard (some useful widgets, place icons where you want no auto top left corner) No walled garden on google applications.

Biggest one with iOs and it's important is that it runs so much more efficiently processing power wise and thus phones are usable for longer periods of time (I'm still using a nearly 4 year old 5S and it runs at least as well as my amost two year old Nexus 6p, you get updates right away, if you like apple's apps (I honestly don't use most of them because I need to interact with Android users) you can't get those on Android.

Bottom line using the OS for me advantage Android. Performance of OS advantage iOs.

If Oreo really improves performance a pure google phone is going to be pretty nice.

They both copy each other and who cares it's better for us consumers both users get a better OS and user experience. If anything iOs needs to start copying more android features then I probably wouldn't even think twice about an Android device. Competition is good for us consumers and both OS's are really top tier at this point.

I hate people who say one or the other are lousy. They're actually both really good and seem to have the opposite advantages and disadvantages so kinda depends which is more important to you. For people who upgrade every year a pure Android device will probably give the best overall user experience in my opinion. I use both and can compare them pretty accurately. Both also need a learning curve if you are used to the other.
Putting the phrase "really good" next to Android is laughable, because you CANNOT deny the massive security issues and reliability and hardware fragmentation issues that continue to plague that OS since day one... That by itself is enough to call Android lousy, and that's being kind... Like someone else here just said, it's "utter bollocks", and that's still being kind. Putting users in deliberate harms way in the fashion that Google does with Android should be totally unacceptable to any rational, logical individual.

People in the Android "camp" call Apple users fanboys, well I say look in the mirror, because people from that side are FAR worse, because they are the same, but playing with an OS that can lead to great harm to the consumers. Security experts around the world are ringing the alarm, and with the recent round of cyber attacks getting more and more sophisticated, targeting mobile and IoT platforms, it will be Android that will be the weapon of choice for criminals, not iOS...
 
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If Google spent as much time refining their bytes as they do their codenames, they'd be getting a FRACTION nearer to being a tiny, weeny bit more sensible. Then again, these goons think it's "edgy" to ride around on multicoloured bicycles...

Erm, yeah. Ok. What schmucko clueless company chooses a platform based on how easy it is to adopt for developers INSTEAD of the crucial choice - how optimised and smooth it is (which reflect DIRECTLY on their competence level as "engineers")? Duuuuuuh.
 
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The fact you say that just proves you are flat out full of **** and discredits anything you say. Ive been using an S8 since launch and it runs perfectly. Which exact Samsung flagship did you use? I bet you have never even touched one, so full of **** lol These days iOS and Android are both pretty well sorted OS's. The days of Android being as bad as you make out are well and truly gone.
Typical response from a Android users coming to an Apple site just to insult Apple users...

I've tried, and had to fix, Galaxy S6, S7, S7 Edge, S8, Note 4, to name just a few. Each coming to me with issues ranging from failing Wifi, apps crashing, runaway processes, adware and malware loaded, boot looping... Need I go on? These are FLAGSHIP Android devices, and they work about as reliably as a $400 Windows POS laptop.

Whether you think I'm full of whatever, I don't give a rats a__ about. I deal with these devices ALL the time, and have even had users come up to me and tell me it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but when I take in my hand and get it to crash in under 5 minutes, they say oh that's normal, just reboot, and I look at them and tell them it's garbage if it does that, and they call me a "fanboy", go figure...
 
Yeah new android software that most people can't install and probably still have an outdated version anyway.

The fragmentation of android is nasty.
 
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Typical response from a Android users coming to an Apple site just to insult Apple users...

I've tried, and had to fix, Galaxy S6, S7, S7 Edge, S8, Note 4, to name just a few. Each coming to me with issues ranging from failing Wifi, apps crashing, runaway processes, adware and malware loaded, boot looping... Need I go on? These are FLAGSHIP Android devices, and they work about as reliably as a $400 Windows POS laptop.

Whether you think I'm full of whatever, I don't give a rats a__ about. I deal with these devices ALL the time, and have even had users come up to me and tell me it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but when I take in my hand and get it to crash in under 5 minutes, they say oh that's normal, just reboot, and I look at them and tell them it's garbage if it does that, and they call me a "fanboy", go figure...
Well the fact i know many people with 2016/2017 flagship android phones and none of them have Failing wifi, runaway processes, adware or bootlooping tells me you are full of ****. I dont know what else to tell you, the latest Android phones simply don't have those issues. Hell ive been on Android for many years now and have not had serious issues with any of them, the biggest issue on older models what micro stutters. Now stop making **** up and get a life. I have not attacked iOS in anyway or called you a fanboy but i will call you out when you talk ****.
 
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Google today announced the next-generation version of its Android operating system, which is named Oreo.

Android Oreo includes dozens of new features, ranging from notification improvements to picture-in-picture support to new emoji.


The update introduces an iOS-like feature called Notification Dots (aka app badges), designed to make it easier to see which apps have new content to display. A long tap on an app icon now displays information like the last notification received and app widgets, much like a 3D Touch does on iOS.

Picture-in-picture support allows users to watch video content while using other apps, while a new autofill feature remembers login information to allow for quicker username and password entry.

Support for new Unicode 10 emoji is included, introducing emoji like exploding head, vampire, zombie, hedgehog, giraffe, fortune cookie, and more. Existing Android emojis have also been redesigned to do away with the iconic Android emoji blobs.

Instant Apps, designed to allow developers to create apps that can run instantly, are now enabled by default, and Google has made improvements to the overall speed of the operating system for faster launch times along as well as introduced security improvements.

A full rundown on the new Android Oreo features is available on Google's site for those interested. The update is available today through Google's Android Open Source Project, with Google planning to roll it out to Pixel and Nexus devices in the near future as soon as carrier testing is complete.

Though Pixel and Nexus owners can expect to get access to Android Oreo in the near future, owners of other Android-based smartphones will need to wait much longer, if they get the update at all. The previous version of Android, Android Nougat, is still only installed on 13.5 percent of devices despite the fact that it was released a year ago.

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The majority of Android devices continue to run Android 5.0 Lollipop and Android 6.0 Marshmallow, released in 2014 and 2015, respectively.

Article Link: Google Officially Unveils Next-Generation 'Android Oreo'
 
As usual, Google REALLY takes the biscuit.

As if making a big hoo-haa about A NAME is going to make their garbage platform LESS CRAP!
 
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Such a useless outdated heavily outsourced OS with no innovation whatsoever which makes otherwise decent phones suck. Tried Android many years ago, tried it again for a few months recently, no good.

-Mike
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Yeah new android software that most people can't install and probably still have an outdated version anyway.

The fragmentation of android is nasty.

Yeah they just don't get it.

-Mike
 
Wow... So much "dislike" in this thread... ***Slowly backing away***

Would it pacify you if people pretended to "LOVE!!" Google? No one remotely likes them, and they seem either oblivious to that fact, or (more likely) their cranial-rectal inversion factor is SO ASTRONOMICALLY HIGH, they just don't care. Yep, they just don't care, so long as their ad/tracking vehicles work "well enough" to pacify most users AND make Google money, that's as far as they're willing to compromise on quality... and they're one HUGE compromise!

It's a refreshing relief that Apple don't seem to have caught this disease of Californian hipster arrogance which many companies seem to have in Silicon Valley... but then Apple is run and managed by older, wiser, more experienced and methodical grey-haired people than at most Silicon Valley "tech" (UGH!) companies which are generally "run" (and I use the term with great disdain) by skinny-jeaned kiddies barely out of nappies.
 
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What an incredibly short sighted and arrogant response... Just because YOU don't know anyone that has Android devices with these issues, doesn't mean that instantly translates into being reality for the 1 BILLION+ Android devices out there! Get a clue on reality... And you swearing at me and slinging profanities my way won't make your position any stronger, or factual, just makes yourself look foolish.
Nope its just reality. I could start talking crap about iOS too with unsubstantiated claims, but it would be just that. If you want to make such crazy claims you better come with proof. Just like you claim that you have seen many Android phones with issues, i have seen many android phones without issues. I suggest you actually go and use a 2017 Android phone then come and make a comment because any person that has used a 2017 Android phone can see you are full of it and the only person that is looking foolish is you.
 
Would it pacify you if people pretended to "LOVE!!" Google? No one remotely likes them, and they seem either oblivious to that fact, or (more likely) their cranial-rectal inversion factor is SO ASTRONOMICALLY HIGH, they just don't care. Yep, they just don't care, so long as their ad/tracking vehicles work "well enough" to pacify most users AND make Google money, that's as far as they're willing to compromise on quality... and they're one HUGE compromise!

It's a refreshing relief that Apple don't seem to have caught this disease of Californian hipster arrogance which many companies seem to have in Silicon Valley... but then Apple is run and managed by older, wiser, more experienced and methodical grey-haired people than at most Silicon Valley "tech" (UGH!) companies which are generally "run" (and I use the term with great disdain) by skinny-jeaned kiddies barely out of nappies.
Nah I don't care either way. I was just making an observation that's all. I just don't understand the such hatred for an OS and its maker. There are more important things in the world to be passionate about and I don't think a mobile OS is one of them. But that's just me =)
 
Nah I don't care either way. I was just making an observation that's all. I just don't understand the such hatred for an OS and its maker. There are more important things in the world to be passionate about and I don't think a mobile OS is one of them. But that's just me =)

It's not hatred, it's disdain.
 
How long has Android had an actual file system? Quite awhile. I guess Apple is photocopying Google, amirite?

Seriously, never go full fanboy, NEVER! Both companies introduce various features that end up being successful, and the other company will end up copying it. This is competition, and it's good for consumers as everyone will be able to get useful features even if their platform didn't come up with it first.
Ios has had file managers way before apple decided to make the files app.
 
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I can't wait to switch back to an iPhone now that there will be a native file management app in iOS... Android OS updates are a disaster.

That's why the Nexus/Pixel line is usually preferred if you want iOS like updates, those get security patch updates every month plus any other changes.
 
Nope its just reality. I could start talking crap about iOS too with unsubstantiated claims, but it would be just that. If you want to make such crazy claims you better come with proof. Just like you claim that you have seen many Android phones with issues, i have seen many android phones without issues. I suggest you actually go and use a 2017 Android phone then come and make a comment because any person that has used a 2017 Android phone can see you are full of it and the only person that is looking foolish is you.
ROTFL!!! Sure, I tell every person that comes to my bench with a malfunctioning Android to sign a sworn affidavit certifying their device was exhibiting issues and my corrective steps needed to rectify the situation!

Like I've told you before, I HAVE used and had to FIX 2017 "flagship" Android phones, and they DO have issues, despite your proverbial "screaming at the top of your lungs to make it seem like you're right" attitude that they have no issues. Look outside the window of your apartment and realize that just because YOUR FRIENDS / ASSOCIATES whom own Android devices with no issues, doesn't make it so for everyone else, and that the issues I've described occur en-masse. A quick Google or DDG search for that will enlighten you.
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Not sure if joking
I'm pretty sure it was a poor attempt at either sarcasm, trolling, or perhaps both :)
 
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