Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
ROTFL!!! Sure, I tell every person that comes to my bench with a malfunctioning Android to sign a sworn affidavit certifying their device was exhibiting issues and my corrective steps needed to rectify the situation!

Like I've told you before, I HAVE used and had to FIX 2017 "flagship" Android phones, and they DO have issues, despite your proverbial "screaming at the top of your lungs to make it seem like you're right" attitude that they have no issues. Look outside the window of your apartment and realize that just because YOUR FRIENDS / ASSOCIATES whom own Android devices with no issues, doesn't make it so for everyone else, and that the issues I've described occur en-masse. A quick Google or DDG search for that will enlighten you.
[doublepost=1503360823][/doublepost]
I'm pretty sure it was a poor attempt at either sarcasm, trolling, or perhaps both :)
Wait... Something doesn't seem right with that logic. Let's say, ball park figure, that you've used and fixed a thousand Android phones ( flagship or not) and based on ur experience Android is crap. Fair enough. Now if I can find a thousand instances of iPhones having issues, could I make the same claim that iOS is also crap?
 
I can't wait to switch back to an iPhone now that there will be a native file management app in iOS... Android OS updates are a disaster.



Google today announced the next-generation version of its Android operating system, which is named Oreo.

Android Oreo includes dozens of new features, ranging from notification improvements to picture-in-picture support to new emoji.


The update introduces an iOS-like feature called Notification Dots (aka app badges), designed to make it easier to see which apps have new content to display. A long tap on an app icon now displays information like the last notification received and app widgets, much like a 3D Touch does on iOS.

Picture-in-picture support allows users to watch video content while using other apps, while a new autofill feature remembers login information to allow for quicker username and password entry.

Support for new Unicode 10 emoji is included, introducing emoji like exploding head, vampire, zombie, hedgehog, giraffe, fortune cookie, and more. Existing Android emojis have also been redesigned to do away with the iconic Android emoji blobs.

Instant Apps, designed to allow developers to create apps that can run instantly, are now enabled by default, and Google has made improvements to the overall speed of the operating system for faster launch times along as well as introduced security improvements.

A full rundown on the new Android Oreo features is available on Google's site for those interested. The update is available today through Google's Android Open Source Project, with Google planning to roll it out to Pixel and Nexus devices in the near future as soon as carrier testing is complete.

Though Pixel and Nexus owners can expect to get access to Android Oreo in the near future, owners of other Android-based smartphones will need to wait much longer, if they get the update at all. The previous version of Android, Android Nougat, is still only installed on 13.5 percent of devices despite the fact that it was released a year ago.

googleoperatingsystemdistribution.jpg

The majority of Android devices continue to run Android 5.0 Lollipop and Android 6.0 Marshmallow, released in 2014 and 2015, respectively.

Article Link: Google Officially Unveils Next-Generation 'Android Oreo'
 
Its interesting seeing what I assume are adults overly obsessing & insulting each other over something like phones. As if either Google/Apple are putting food in their stomachs. I'm sure their respective managements would get a chuckle in the unlikely event they read some of these posts. Each ecosystem pushes the other to become better benefitting the end user.
 
Its interesting seeing what I assume are adults overly obsessing & insulting each other over something like phones. As if either Google/Apple are putting food in their stomachs. Each ecosystems push the other to become better benefitting the end user.
Heh... Just passing time until football starts... Almost there.... =)
 
Wait... Something does seem right with that logic. Let's say, ball park figure, that you've used and fixed a thousand Android phones ( flagship or not) and based on ur experience Android is crap. Fair enough. Now if I can find a thousand instances of iPhones having issues, could I make the same claim that iOS is also crap?

EXACTLY!
 
A lot of bias people on here lol. I've been a Mac user for almost 15 years, but I use Android for my phone. You can't really compare OS upgrades between iOS and Android because they treat their apps differently. Apple updates their main apps thru OS updates and Google does it thru their app store and they do it very frequently.

I would have to disagree with this. Apple updates its key applications outside of OS updates. Between iOS 10 and iOS 11 Apple updated iTunes, iWork (three times), Apple Music, Apple Mail, and GarageBand. So I am not sure that the OS upgrade approach differs too much.

I think the fundamental Android is fine -- for me (and I was an Android user for years) -- the problem with the Android platform is the quality of the Apps. The difference in App quality gets even bigger when you include tablets. iOS apps tend to get developed first and are more refined, stable, and advanced. Android doesn't even have an acceptable tablet experience. With iOS 11 --- the difference has been widened with new productivity capabilities.

So if I just want a mobile phone -- Android is a good cost effective option. If I want a real platform and ecosystem - iOS is the more attractive platform.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MagMan1979
ROTFL!!! Sure, I tell every person that comes to my bench with a malfunctioning Android to sign a sworn affidavit certifying their device was exhibiting issues and my corrective steps needed to rectify the situation!

Like I've told you before, I HAVE used and had to FIX 2017 "flagship" Android phones, and they DO have issues, despite your proverbial "screaming at the top of your lungs to make it seem like you're right" attitude that they have no issues. Look outside the window of your apartment and realize that just because YOUR FRIENDS / ASSOCIATES whom own Android devices with no issues, doesn't make it so for everyone else, and that the issues I've described occur en-masse. A quick Google or DDG search for that will enlighten you.
[doublepost=1503360823][/doublepost]
I'm pretty sure it was a poor attempt at either sarcasm, trolling, or perhaps both :)

Im sure you will find the same situation with people that fix iPhones aswell and a quick google search will reveal plenty of iPhones issues, does this mean iOS is fundamentally broken too? The amount of people with iPhones that have come to me with issues is crazy but im not claiming iOS has widespread issues do i? Your logic is flawed. Just because you have fixed some Android phones with issues does not mean Android is crap, for every Android phone you have fixed im sure someone has fixed 2 iPhones.
 
Last edited:
I really hate the naming, just stick with a version number, much easier to remember and keep track of.
 
Whichever camp you are in, despite whose fanboy you may or may not be. Please just appreciate competition. Even if you hate iOS or Android it is in your best interest that there is competition. I am so happy to see AMD trying to take some of Intel's market share and a cursory look shows that Intel appears to have been caught off guard. Hopefully they will lower prices and give more bang for your buck.
 
  • Like
Reactions: cgsnipinva
I'm here looking for the incessent complaining about Android supporting new emoji, the way there is every time it comes up with Apple. Can't seem to find it. Weird.
 
Everyone here likes to laugh at the is fragmentation, meanwhile I'm glad that I don't have to wait for a major OS update for new app features... Google has long been able to back port most of the major OS features to previous versions. And Android Oreo is doing a lot to improve fragmentation for the future via project treble
 
Whichever camp you are in, despite whose fanboy you may or may not be. Please just appreciate competition. Even if you hate iOS or Android it is in your best interest that there is competition. I am so happy to see AMD trying to take some of Intel's market share and a cursory look shows that Intel appears to have been caught off guard. Hopefully they will lower prices and give more bang for your buck.
Agree. Competition is healthy and we as consumers benefit greatly when there's competition. I wish PalmOS stuck around for a few more years; it would have given both iOS and Android a run for the money. Too bad it didn't get the appropriate backing at the time. The touchpad firesale was a blast though!!! Good times!
 
Everyone here likes to laugh at the is fragmentation, meanwhile I'm glad that I don't have to wait for a major OS update for new app features... Google has long been able to back port most of the major OS features to previous versions. And Android Oreo is doing a lot to improve fragmentation for the future via project treble

As an iOS user I don't have to wait for OS updates for new application features. In between iOS 10 and 11 -- I have had three updates to iWork, four to iTunes, one to Apple Music, one for Mail, and multiple for third party apps.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MagMan1979
A rarity... Like one of those total eclipse events from earlier today. Heh...

Ah. but an eclipse is predictable, exceptionally precise and ON TIME.
[doublepost=1503365542][/doublepost]
Everyone here likes to laugh at the is fragmentation, meanwhile I'm glad that I don't have to wait for a major OS update for new app features... Google has long been able to back port most of the major OS features to previous versions. And Android Oreo is doing a lot to improve fragmentation for the future via project treble

Another one of Google's "Projects" which they love to crow about and trumpet from the rooftops, patting themselves on the back for having noticed errors in things they messed up, "projects" to fix something THEY CAUSED. Well done Google you absolute morons.
 
Not necessarily. Pixels purchased at Verizon likely will get the OS the same day. I've gotten day one releases on my Pixel every time since I have had it. I will agree that Apple does have this quite a bit more fine tuned which is a good benchmark for Android to strive for. Unfortunately, with partners and their customizations it is likely that OS updates on Samsung, HTC, etc. will always come out down the road.

YMMV. Up to 2 weeks, which was taken straight from Google's doc.
 
I'm not sure how competition works in the smartphone world anymore...With people invested deeply into ecosystems, it makes it a major task to switch. For example, I've purchased $300+ on movies & apps (and in app purchases) over the past 6 years. I got lightning cables galore plus I have an AppleTV. So, even if Android was slightly better than iOS, I wouldn't care enough to switch.

It's like with Apple abandoning the headphone-jack*; I want to vote with my dollars and buy a different flagship phone, but I can't because the change-over is too much of a headache. It's just easier to stay.

*I'm all for abandoning old tech, but it's asinine to say wireless headphones are the future and then ship your latest iPhone with wired headphones.


Steve Jobs and Apple learned their lesson the first time around with MS stealing their ideas and making billions. This time they didn't't blow their second chance and no matter who copies, it really won't dent their business model.
 
Google can make real progress with Android if it decides to put more resources into its own hardware and prioritizes this hardware for upgrades and new releases of software. Let the other manufacturers uses the open source version of Android. Google could simplify the app development landscape and provide the most attractive base for developers.

If delivered properly -- Android could be a killer mobile operating system. It would be great to have another tablet OS that was worth a *****.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.