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Unlike you, I know the data.
They are an ad company. Their other bets category just did $170M in revenue and the company did $36B in the quarter. No, Waymo isn’t contributing.
Google is so dominant in the ad space, they can suck at many other things and it just doesn’t matter. I’ll be watching if Waymo ever becomes a thing and I own shares of it does.
Apparently, you respect a company for reasons other than what the fans of a brand do. We respect Apple when it delivers pleasing products without compromises and guarantees our satisfaction. You respect Apple for delivering dividends. You wouldn't care if Apple sold sh** on a stick as long as it sold a lot and paid dividends.
You’re not wrong regarding all of the areas Google dabbles in, but you need to follow the money to see what kind of company Google is. Something like 85% of their revenue comes from advertising, not all the stuff you mention. Google’s products and services exist for one sole purpose, collect customer data and sell ads based on that data. Everything else is just for show.
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Apple has millions of happy customers and some of the highest customer satisfaction ratings in the industry. You think they achieve that by selling crappy products? This notion that Apple doesn’t make great products is a joke. You may prefer other products, which is totally fine, but others prefer Apple. No wrong choice here.
Not a great metric, I mean Amazon and Samsung were just 1 point below Apple in 2018. Asus was 5 points below Apple but depending on how you want to spin it, I would say that represents a better result than Apple when you compare the two companies, margin, market share and so on.
Not saying they don't make great products but I do believe they are making less reliable products today than at any point in the past 20 years I have used their products.
We would all feel a lot better about bending iPads, faulty keyboards, popping speakers, coil whine, stage lighting, faulty batteries, faulty SSDs and so on if they actually published failure rates then we would know it's as insignificant as so many members claim the issues to be.
So all that means is those other companies make good products also. I don’t agree when it comes to reliability, I haven’t seen any hardware issues aside from dust in my iPhone 4 camera. Besides that, no hardware issues at all across a number of products.
Apple issues are magnified and exaggerated all over sites like this, but in the real world, it’s a tiny fraction of users. Apple still makes great quality products that millions of customers buy and use every day. I think most people who tend to make that argument just don’t prefer the types of products that Apple prioritizes today.
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No, what it means is that despite being the most valuable tech company (depending on the day) and all the cash they are hoarding, their stores and so on, other companies on a much smaller scale, despite cheaper, 'lower quality' products and smaller margins can deliver just the same customer satisfaction as Apple. From my point of view, I would expect Apple to do better than the rest by a good margin, not just be the same.
Sure forums like this are where users will come and vent, what I don't see is many new signups in threads criticizing the products. Fact is people in the main do not sign up to forums to tell everyone they have a faulty product, they deal with it in whatever way they see fit. So you never see the full picture unless Apple releases numbers.
What we do know is that Apple has 3 repair programs for the current MBP. For the dodgy keyboard across 9 devices, SSDs failing and component failure causing the battery to swell. Probably going to be 4 with the stage lighting effect issue for 2016/17 MBP.
Some products are better than others, they are all great if they did not cause so many issues. I have returned 2 MBP's since 2016 due to the keyboard issue. My company which provides everyone with a choice of laptops removed the MBP as 'not fit for purpose' due to the failure rate. So many companies are reporting significant issues.
For Apple, it's just not good enough.
So, you are telling me that I should be ok that they sell me a product which is not a priority line so I or in fact anyone else should accept sub-par quality.
Apple is known for its quality and customer satisfaction. Millions of people are willing to pay a premium for their products, assuming the majority of them are just living with hardware defects is ridiculous. I’m not saying Apple is perfect by any means, clearly there are some issues with the MacBook Pro (big reason why I moved on from Mac’s), but the idea that Apple doesn’t make quality products is a huge reach. No, I’m saying that this argument always comes from people who don’t like the fact that Apple has moved on from the Mac.
Have they? you no more than anyone else then given they produce more Mac devices than any other product.
Here, take a look below to see which product lines are most important to Apple.
Yes, Apple has essentially moved on from the Mac to focus on what it’s customers want most, mobile products, services, and wearables. The Mac will always exist and serve its niche purpose, but it’s no longer a priority for Apple or their customers.
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But they don’t, so that’s nonsense. People like Apple products and the sales show that. Hate on.
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Come back with 1 fact and we will have a discussion. Until then, hate on. The Pixel is a nothing product and Google hardware is a failure.
I’m assuming you’re saying this because of the triple lens camera on the back of the iPhone 11 leaked photos/renders? The only ones that care about the back of the iPhone, are people on this site, have you ever heard anyone discuss the aesthetics on the back of an iPhone? I haven’t. It’s kind of like the notch argument, everyone here on this site makes it a huge deal like it’s an ‘utter failure’, but yet, no one outside of this tech site has discussions about the notch, not when their lives revolve around more pertinent things other than a design feature by Apple.
My Point being, and iPhone is tool, just like any other smart phone is, they generally all really look the same, but it’s about the experience they deliver, not the ‘looks’.
No, what we are saying is that Apple sells a ton of different products, and even if one does suck, it doesn’t mean that all of them do.
For starters, we have the iPhone, Apple Watch and Airpods which work very well. I have the 2018 iPad Pro (no bending issues thus far), and I purchased the Smart Keyboard and Apple Pencil as well, and use them for work on a daily basis.
I also have a 2017 27” iMac which is working great as well. Couple of Apple TVs scattered around the house. Purchase apps on a regular basis. Subscribed to Apple Music and iCloud. Come later this year, many other people will sign up for the various other services as well.
Every time this is pointed out, people go “but the MacBook Pro keyboard!!!” As though Apple sells only laptops and nothing else.
So even with a problematic product, Apple still sells enough of other products to be insanely profitable. These are not mutually exclusive.
Is it so hard a concept to understand?
That’s basically business in a nutshell.
For all the criticism Apple gets on their products from you critics here, they sell. And they sell because users find enough value in them to be willing to pay the premium.
Conversely, it doesn’t matter what cool stuff google is reportedly doing with AI or whatever new initiative they are delving into. At the end of the day, google is a profit maximising company who needs to answer to shareholders. The coolest tech in the world is moot if they can’t monetise it.
That’s the issue I raised with features like night sight and duplex. Night sight isn’t resulting in more pixel phones being sold, even as it is praised by phone reviewers and publications. Duplex is a great demonstration of AI with no clear business case. There seems to be a fundamental mismatch between what google is doing and what their customers want (or at least, are willing to pay for).
That’s the elephant in the room nobody here seems to want to address. That nobody is buying all these cool stuff google is putting out.
The number of iphone switchers to Android is STAGGERING... It is why iPhone sales and unit numbers are in a free fall. People are abandoning the Apple ecosystem at record numbers. And it shows in the number of increased sales for Android and the declining sales of iPhone. The Apple iphone is a dying ecosystem. And it's about to get worse... much worse with the Chine trade war...
[doublepost=1558332106][/doublepost]The OLED Pixel 3a at $299 ($399-$100 store credit) has a better camera for photos and video than the $800 ijunk XR at more than twice the price. DxoMark: ijunk XR photo 103, video 96, Pixel 3a photo 103, video 98.
And that does not even take into account of best selfies, best low light photography, longer battery, headphone jack and fingerprint reader. The Pixel 3a OBLITERATES the ijunk XR at less than half the price. There been already a massive number of iPhone switchers, but with the Pixel 3a and 3a XL they are about to accelerate to all time highs..
They already have this squeeze feature for activating the assistant. I assume they'll improve on that to create non-visible buttons. If they are s/w only, it won't be good.
One thing is certain, though; Having a notch in the middle of the screen in 2019-2020 is already an old-fashioned design.
One thing is certain, though; Having a notch in the middle of the screen in 2019-2020 is already an old-fashioned design.
Well that's because they were too expensive and most users considered that they are were not worth their price. But this doesn't mean they are bad or terrible phones it just means that Google priced them wrong and I'm glad those at Google were forced to realize it.
Should Apple do the same about services then?
Here’s the thing.
Apple has shown dedication in iterating on a product and throwing resources behind it until it succeeds. The Apple Watch is one such example. Just look at how far it has come since it was first released.
Google flits from one project to the next like a butterfly with ADHD. We have also heard reports of how the culture at google encourages engineers to come up with new products but also disincentives them to maintain said projects after they have taken off.
Services may not be Apple’s forte, but I have more faith in Apple keeping every service they have announced and supporting them for a good many years to come, than google maintaining their hardware line.
I sure f.cking hope so! ;-)
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Yep, the leaks looks great! Much better than the last years iPhones .-/
This is amazingly naive and one of the worst takes I’ve seen on this site. Can you share this staggering data that shows iPhone users switching to Android? A decline in sales and a growing user base wouldn’t support that. If the iPhone is dying, I can’t imagine how Google feels about the Pixel right now. Also, if you plan on throwing out more hyperbole instead of some facts, don’t bother.
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