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Um I use the S10 plus with no buttons and it's great?
Ultimately it’s a personal preference but I personally believe the usability of a slab with no buttons is less than that with physical buttons. I personally don’t get this fascination these days of wanting zero bezels, zero buttons, and zero design.
 
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Google seriously should give up on hardware. It's a failure.

They should stick to ads.

This statement seems rather bold. I've yet to encounter hardware failure with any pixel phone, and their cameras are top notch. Not just the software algorithms either. This is the first time that I heard anyone make this statement so boldly lol. The way you ended your statement tells me you might be a fan boy
 
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The abuse of privacy by Facebook doesn’t justify abuse of privacy by Google.
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That doesn’t make it okay, or something I have to support. I’m not sure, only Google can answer that, but typically they give up on products and services that aren’t doing well. My guess is they realize they need to have some control over smartphone hardware for the eventual replacement of Android. They want to create a closed ecosystem like Apple with Fuchsia.
I bet >50% or more of apple users who complain about google, use facebook, the most intrusive personal data company in the world. And knowingly and willingly keep giving their personal data to facebook in a daily basis...
 
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Well I have both android auto and carplay and would disagree.
Google fit has nothing on apple health. It certainly doesn't pull in your health data from hospitals. It doesn't track all the metrics I track. It barely does anything. I track weight, BMI, skeletal mass, visceral fat, cholesterol, blood pressure, nutrients. I'm simplifying it as I do track much much more. Google fit is not even remotely close.

The argument doesn't matter. Manufacture based systems are better anyway. At least now that they are addressing it. Mercedes is one. Especially now. Watch a video on how fantastic they are. You can change anything on your car with voice. You can't switch between then on the fly, so I'm sticking with what comes with the car.
 
A total failure, apart from creating probably the best phone under $500 and easily one of the best cameras in a smartphone.
The pixel 3 is barely even top 5 when it comes to camera quality. They are only good at stills. Many other flagships have surpassed google with their own night mode implementations.
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This statement seems rather bold. I've yet to encounter hardware failure with any pixel phone, and their cameras are top notch. Not just the software algorithms either. This is the first time that I heard anyone make this statement so boldly lol. The way you ended your statement tells me you might be a fan boy
Google is hardly leading when it comes to hardware. Their pixel 2 and 3 flagships were plagued with many many hardware and software issues. The OP does have a valid point. A simple google search of “pixel 2 or pixel 3 bugs” will show what he is trying to convey.
 
I bet >50% or more of apple users who complain about google, use facebook, the most intrusive personal data company in the world. And knowingly and willingly keep giving their personal data to facebook in a daily basis...
To me all social media is the same when it comes to privacy. Even Twitter you have no privacy
 
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This statement seems rather bold. I've yet to encounter hardware failure with any pixel phone, and their cameras are top notch. Not just the software algorithms either. This is the first time that I heard anyone make this statement so boldly lol. The way you ended your statement tells me you might be a fan boy
What's really troubling is someone actually calling for and cheerleading for less competition. I own a Motorola Nexus 6 phone and love it. The plain vanilla Android experience is right up there with iOS. If anything Google may decide to take the budget handset approach. Sony has lost a ton money on their mobile phone division and they still haven't quit.

The mobile handset market is too important for Google to walk away from more so than tablets. I do agree with the poster you quoted that it's just a rounding error for Google.
 
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I bet >50% or more of apple users who complain about google, use facebook, the most intrusive personal data company in the world. And knowingly and willingly keep giving their personal data to facebook in a daily basis...

Okay? Re-read what you quoted me on I guess. I never understood that mentality. Well someone else does it so it makes it okay. I disagree. We deserve better from both companies.
 
Okay? Re-read what you quoted me on I guess. I never understood that mentality. Well someone else does it so it makes it okay. I disagree. We deserve better from both companies.
My point is that apple users give access to their personal data by the apps they use.
 
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My point is that apple users give access to their personal data by the apps they use.

Well that all depends on the individual and I certainly don’t fault Apple for that. It comes down to personal choice and what one person values over another. What you’re saying isn’t some sort of revelation.
 
You sound very passionate in your dislike for Google. Calm down ok, Apple doesn't belong to your dad
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Exactly, I just don't believe in those shares claims
I guess you didn’t read I own GOOGL.
 
Google seriously should give up on hardware. It's a failure.

They should stick to ads.

Except their device is relatively amazing.

Better photos on a Pixel 3, with a single camera bump enclosure. It looks like the camera from an iPhone 6 but takes better photos than whatever ugly design Apple has released.

Apple is the one failing, as of late. You see it in the notch, in the camera housing, too many sacrifices on design.
 
Except their device is relatively amazing.

Better photos on a Pixel 3, with a single camera bump enclosure. It looks like the camera from an iPhone 6 but takes better photos than whatever ugly design Apple has released.

Apple is the one failing, as of late. You see it in the notch, in the camera housing, too many sacrifices on design.

Quite a leap to say Apple is failing due to a notch, which the Pixel has, and a camera bump. The Pixel camera is better than the iPhone, but not dramatically so (aside from night sight) that it means Apple is somehow “failing” due to design decisions. It all comes down to personal preference, the sky isn’t falling on either end.
 
And you know how many people track those metrics? Yup :) Google fit is great at exercise detection and tracking and supports a lot more in this respect than Apple. That’s what’s important to me.

I just find that Android auto gives me the information I need when I need it. CarPlay gives me exactly zero information other than annoying calendar notification pop-ups.

Plus AA it’s more open and there are more 3rd party services that use it. Voice recognition is dramatically better on AA than on CarPlay, but that’s a genera issue with Siri

I know a lot of people who track a variety of metrics. My scale tracks about a dozen and automatically sends to apple health. A lot of people track nutrition for a variety of reasons and that auto populates apple health. My hospital records also automatically populate it. My watch feeds heart data to it. Almost every is automatic. I manually enter my blood pressure though. The older you get the more you care about these things. The more you diet or workout the more you may care about it. Depends on the person.

Apple is also great at exercise detection and tracks more than google does. Apple watch can also sync to gym equipment and transfer workout data. I have to wonder if you’ve actually used it? It’s really not even a close comparison so I’m confused by your statement. I have my android phone right here and was exploring google fit and it’s useless. It barely does anything. It’s not even a comparable app. Similar to apples rings app but it's no health app.

What information are you talking about? All the apps I need are available in CarPlay. Everything. I use it every single day. What is it you’re missing? Every music app is there, all the podcast apps, many news apps, many navigation apps. Lots of messaging apps. There's more apps there than i'd ever use!

I have zero issue with voice recognition. From navigation to texting to asking for music and podcasts to be played. I'm often getting texts from my wife and kids and respond often from it.
 
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Quite a leap to say Apple is failing due to a notch, which the Pixel has, and a camera bump. The Pixel camera is better than the iPhone, but not dramatically so (aside from night sight) that it means Apple is somehow “failing” due to design decisions. It all comes down to personal preference, the sky isn’t falling on either end.
I would say the sky is falling on the pixel line. The 3a has given it life. But the pixel 4 NEEDS to be a hit.
 
Google seriously should give up on hardware. It's a failure.

They should stick to ads.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Their hardware is gorgeous and amazingly cheap for what you get.

The problem with google is that all they care about is selling ads and their hardware is just a tool to profile you and make their ad business more profitable. That's why I'm very strongly with the Apple side ecosystem, and I don't see that changing any time soon, but if we were only looking at the hardware offerings, it would be hard not to dump my XR for a Pixel today.
 
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Their hardware is gorgeous and amazingly cheap for what you get.

The problem with google is that all they care about is selling ads and their hardware is just a tool to profile you and make their ad business more profitable. That's why I'm very strongly with the Apple side ecosystem, and I don't see that changing any time soon, but if we were only looking at the hardware offerings, it would be hard not to dump my XR for a Pixel today.
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That’s gorgeous to you?
 
The Pixel has done it again and I can't wait to try the newest technology. I'm sure there'll be a pin hole reset for backup but if you're going forward, onward I say. Nothing beats the Google and the 3a will give the non-tech head Apple users an opportunity to give it a go. I work with Apple phones but have a Google 3XL. I see the initial ease and sell of the Apple but as my users want more, they really feel the restriction. The Google Assistant is where the spoiled brats who love to be catered to will adore. They can tell all thier friends about it. Lol. The camera alone should shut up anyone who has any other phone under $999, cause all I get are Wow's when I show a picture I've taken,b especially in the dark. If we're hearing rumors about a no touch experience of future technology, anyone who suggests against it is simply my Ohio Techhead Grandfather who is ready to settle because their tired. Lol. Oh, did I tell you about how it connects to just about anything electronic you own. It's screen cast easily and if your, say, TV is to old, you can connect a WiFi device and make a world of imagination the way Disney wowed audiences with virtual reality in thier dream land. Get it, you'll more than like it.
- The Google King (for good reason)
 
The fact there is even Google news here is sort of wrong.
You're very new to MacRumors. Competitor news is as old as this forum.
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Capacitive touch for volume seems like a nightmare for case makers.
Nah, not at all. Conductive rubber and silicone have been around for a long time. You just need a small piece under a flex button.
 
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