I find it kinda scary with so many here so ardently defending Google here over obvious anti-competitive practices.
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Google Reportedly Pays Apple $8-12 Billion Per Year to be Default iOS Search Engine
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This seems like a convoluted mess. How is this any worse than the constant buying and merging of cell companies, or cable television companies?
Its amazing how Google was new and Apple was almost on deaths door in the late 90s. Now look at them.
I don’t know what the answer is. Perhaps something as simple as a default search setup screen like others have mentioned.
Its amazing how Google was new and Apple was almost on deaths door in the late 90s. Now look at them.
I don’t know what the answer is. Perhaps something as simple as a default search setup screen like others have mentioned.
Yep... Google is paying to be the default search on Apple products.
On the other hand... I keep hearing that Google Search is so good that people would choose it even if it wasn't the default...
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I don't see this being an issue, it's so simple to change.
Besides, who the heck is going to pick Bing, Yahoo, or DuckDuckMoo? They need more options. Isn't there a standard for something like this?
At a minimum, they need a default web page for when new windows open (making it easier to use other options).
You can literally Google how to change it!
That said, I'm using Google. Unless someone has a search engine that will get better results for me?
(Yes, I know it's GO)
Besides, who the heck is going to pick Bing, Yahoo, or DuckDuckMoo? They need more options. Isn't there a standard for something like this?
At a minimum, they need a default web page for when new windows open (making it easier to use other options).
You can literally Google how to change it!
That said, I'm using Google. Unless someone has a search engine that will get better results for me?
(Yes, I know it's GO)
They “value” your privacy... and the value they attach to it is somewhere between $8 and $12 Billion!
The state in which they operate. You know, like the mail. Its not rocket science. Each country runs their section of it, but the sections are all interlinked.
Already FB nominally has to respect jurisdictions and submit to their diverse regulations. This isn't an issue.
Chicken or the egg. If you have no competition why will there ever be an option? Effectively paying off Apple to stay away from search is a another blow to competition.
Good for MS for at least trying, and without the benefit of mobile platform of their own.
It might make sense for everyone, including consumers and Google if MS opened-sourced Bing with the help of Apple and all the other major players to provide an alternative with a fighting chance.
On the other hand, this ever-present ubiquity is why so many people equate the internet with google.
I have been using DuckDuckGo since 5 years as default on my Mac and since it has been available on iOS. Works great.
Google is basically carrying Apple. If those search engine payments stop, Apple is dooooomed. /s
I don't know how I feel about this as an Apple shareholder. Sure, I like the idea that Google is paying Apple a pretty decent piece of change for having Google Search as a default search engine, but Apple is purely doing it for the money or they would have used DuckDuckGo as the default search engine. I like using Google Search and I have been using it for years and would use it even if it wasn't the default search engine. I've used other search engines over the years and other search engines are OK. I can actually get results from DuckDuckGo that I can't get from Google Search.
The problem is that the first thing analysts have to say is how Apple is going to be losing all that money and how it's going to hurt Apple's valuation. That totally sucks even if it is true. I don't see how Apple would ever be able to make up that loss of revenue if it's $8-$10M every year. That's a heavy loss for Apple and shareholders. It appears Apple will just have to lose that revenue and that's all there is to it.
I don't know how I feel about this as an Apple shareholder. Sure, I like the idea that Google is paying Apple a pretty decent piece of change for having Google Search as a default search engine, but Apple is purely doing it for the money or they would have used DuckDuckGo as the default search engine. I like using Google Search and I have been using it for years and would use it even if it wasn't the default search engine. I've used other search engines over the years and other search engines are OK. I can actually get results from DuckDuckGo that I can't get from Google Search.
The problem is that the first thing analysts have to say is how Apple is going to be losing all that money and how it's going to hurt Apple's valuation. That totally sucks even if it is true. I don't see how Apple would ever be able to make up that loss of revenue if it's $8-$10M every year. That's a heavy loss for Apple and shareholders. It appears Apple will just have to lose that revenue and that's all there is to it.
If you thought there were a lot of tech companies now, wait till these are all broken up into a few companies. Good times...
How is this an illegal deal? Something will be default, and that should go to the highest bidder.
Well there's your problem, you bought a Samsung smart TV. Some of those even have ads.
Anti-competitive behavior means something specific. The "you will lose all your revenue if this agreement expires, even if they are using google" is definitely anti-competitive. Abuse by a monopoly? We'll see. It does make it difficult for a competitor to break in.
New generation does not care about privacy etc. Everything is "social" and that means more than what they now understand..for they have been conditioned well..
This argument about Google as the default is asinine. You do not have to use Google as your default, for you can change it at any time. They make their money on a mentality that someone does everything for them, even setup and make the decision for you what your search engine will be. That is the meaning of "social" and people will start to understand this more so soon unfortunately.
Apple should win this fight because people do not "have too" choose Google as their default and if not lazy or even care, they can change it very easily.
All Apple has to do is during installation include an option to select which search engine the user wants, end of story..but...end of billions from Google and is why they pay so high amount.
if and when I reinstall or reset my tech, I immediately take the time and change my default search engine to something else rather than Google. End of story, case closed.
We have choices so at the end of the day and everyone has the option to not "have to" use Google, so the case should not technically win in court legally...but in today's U.S. courts...you never know now...
The other part is Apple users tend to be more valuable which is why they pay so much to keep the spot.
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I don't, but it's pretty likely, given that Google has a lot of money, and Apple has no reason to prefer their competitor.
That is indeed what you said, actually. That Apple could then turn around and reinvest that money into different things.