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Google Shows Off Android P With New iPhone X-Style Gestures
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Both copied Nova Prime which is a launcher on Android that has had gestures for at least a couple of years.
I have been using Nova for longer than that.
Nova allows gestures based on multi-touch.
One finger swipes do one thing, two finger another, and three another.
Up, down, left, right are all different.
It just wasn't baked into the OS.
I can't wait for Apple to unveil its notch-less iPhone in 2019 or 2020 after the entire Android world copies the notch. And they all get caught with their pants around their ankles. Hopefully Google will still use common sense and not have a notch in the Pixel 3. Just because Android P supports it doesn't mean Pixel will have it. It's for the cheapo Android copycats and their useless notches. At least Apple has a good reason (I still hate it, but the notch serves a practical purpose).
I completely agree, I love the fact that the notification bar can be in the otherwise useless space at the top.
You talk about ‘the notch’, when I am thinking of the variety of different implementations across different brands and models of smartphones. There is a difference between a notch and a ‘poinless notch’, probably better described as a meaningless notch, where there is still a thicker bezel on the top/bottom and there are components there that could otherwise be implemented elsewhere resulting in a thinner top bezel. It doesn’t really happen, and was really a dig at the pointless bezels Google implemented in the Pixel 2.
I’m not trying to argue here but clearly Apple still leads the way when it comes to interaction and interface design. After all, Google and Apple are two types of companies. Google has better engineers and their goal is to get their services covering more devices possible so they can obtain more user data for AI; Apple has better designers and their aim is to sell more devices. Since this article is all about user interface and gesture based actions, it’s exactly where Apple leads the way. On the other hand, Google leads the way on other things. There’s no clear winner here, and I don’t think the people praising Apple’s design are all fanboys trying to comfort themselves. When it comes to fanboys of Apple vs Google, either side is quite biased.
Android had NFC payments before Apple. Two years before. Google was fighting with Verizon about secure element before Apple even had NFC of any kind.
The iPhone 6 is the first phone with NFC.
Android phones had NFC and payment before Apple.
Don’t think you get my point, Google would do a large bezel and then have a notch. Like they pointlessly had iPhone sized bezels on the Pixel 2.
Sorry, but the X did take inspiration from WebOS. It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t a success, it was still innovative back then and that was over a decade ago which we are now being wowed at for the X incorporating their gestures and now Android are following suit.
Also, I’m not “on” anything. I don’t like your patronising tone just because I find the X with its ugly home bar and notch hideous. You’re saying it as if I’m the only one who thinks that. The person I originally quoted is another who dislikes it. Not everyone is an Apple apologist, Apple can honestly do much better, especially with the turd that is iOS 11.
MacRumors titled this thread to incite both sides.
Watch the video. It has less than 2% to do with notch / no notch / gesture navigation. It's all about AI. If you watch the video and are not blown away, then you deserve Siri. Google's new AI calls restaurants IN THE BACKGROUND WITHOUT YOU and navigates getting you a table! Wow. Or gets you a haircutting appt. ...
Watch the video. It has less than 2% to do with notch / no notch / gesture navigation. It's all about AI. If you watch the video and are not blown away, then you deserve Siri. Google's new AI calls restaurants IN THE BACKGROUND WITHOUT YOU and navigates getting you a table! Wow. Or gets you a haircutting appt. ...
Pretty boring updates and I don't say that to throw shade at Android. I think all the smart phone operating systems including iOS are becoming so mature now that it's hard to create any kind of wonder with the software anymore.
We were very excited to get Apps and the App Store, multi-tasking, copy and paste etc - But now it's all very minor changes. All the low hanging fruit has been picked and changes are not so obvious anymore.
I do wonder what the next big thing in software will be.
We were very excited to get Apps and the App Store, multi-tasking, copy and paste etc - But now it's all very minor changes. All the low hanging fruit has been picked and changes are not so obvious anymore.
I do wonder what the next big thing in software will be.
Maybe for you but I just can't see it. iOS feel very outdated to me.
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Gesture based actions is definitely not something new on Android so your assessment is incorrect.
https://imgur.com/o9SFWyt
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I am with you there, it's all becoming less and less important to me. I don't even really need many new features (although I'd like a dark mode), but I am more focused on the strengths of the platform overall. Mainly performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and support. The rest is just fluff, I just want my stuff to work.
Who’s more biased and more fanboy when you’re simply calling another person’s opinion “incorrect”?
After all, it’s all about personal taste. I use both iOS and Android (have to use both as i’m making apps), but after work the iphone is always my primary device.
First of all, the definition of “outdated” is quite debatable. iOS and Android has different logic when it comes to system interaction design. Of course android is more customizable, but iOS has a simpler logic.
About the gesture based actions, it has been there for android with launchers (I remember having a launcher copying webOS gestures on android years ago, but it had conflict with some gestures within apps, as there was a lack of interface guidelines during that time), in the meantime it was also possible for years with jailbreak tweaks in iOS. But third party solution is never as good as a system wide solution, as there are possible interaction conflicts.
I don’t wanna argue but it seems like you’re just calling other people “fanboys trying to comfort themselves” for their personal preferences. I think this is biased and a little aggressive. Each platform has its advantages, and there’s no need to call other people “incorrect” when they prefer a different thing.
Android phone makers and carriers are holding back on distribution of Android OS updates, not pushing out OS updates. What good does it do for Google releasing P? Last I read the adaption rate of Androd Nougat 7.0 is 23%, Nougat 7.1 is 7.8%, Oreo 8 is 4.1%. Contrast that to Apple iOS 11 released Sept. 2017 now has over 76% adaption rate. Android OS adaptions are abysmal, my thinking it is the phone maker and carrier. When I purchase a device I expect to receive updates when they are released, not many months or years later; often never. Google needs to do something about this mess.
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It’s a shame that some companies are not updating their devices just because they invest all the resource on newer devices. In the case of carriers, they’re just lazy...
Since last year Google introduced Project Treble, so that the devices would be updated more easily (the devices getting android P beta today support this feature), but it requires the device to come with Oreo from the beginning. So there’s still a long way to go for Google. On the other hand, pushing the same update to different hardware could be potentially problematic though. A good example is how Microsoft’s patch for the meltdown/spectre on Intel processors bricked PCs with AMD processors earlier this year...
What is there to debate about? Use what you prefer and don't worry about trying to "convert" people like this is some religion.
Have you used an iPhone lately? Because mine has had a search bar and suggested apps for ages
Ah, so the bigger the Notch, the bigger the corners.
It must be Joni's finest moment when corners become infinite as the notch covers the whole screen (= the Ultimate Notchy Paradigm)
Their future is boring... smart assistants with AI are great amplifiers for echo chambers...
Who’s more biased and more fanboy when you’re simply calling another person’s opinion “incorrect”?
I simply call tings by their name.
Here:
https://imgur.com/o9SFWyt
Now that right there more debatable than anything.
Simpler logic like having to exit the camera apps to change a setting or having to dig deep into the settings to find the automatic brightness or not being able to turn off Bluetooth from the control center etc.?
I don't know about which time you are speaking but I don't remember having such a problems for many years. It's simply not a problem and we are talking about Android P here not Android D.
jailbreak? really? that's funny.
Then Android had gesture based navigation(and way more) for many many years with Root.
First I clearly didn't use the word fanboys but if that's how you feel, I won't contradict you.
Second I call people incorrect when their biased statement is clearly incorrect. You didn't say "in my opinion" you simply stated: "...it’s exactly where Apple leads the way" so it's not about what you prefer, It's about what you think and how you say it.
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