Google Touts Pixel 9's Gemini AI Capabilities That Don't Require 'Hand-off to AI Providers You May Not Know or Trust'

[MacBH928]

did they put the part where Google records you key clicks, camera, microphone, all data in your phone, location and store it in a database that their employees can see and sell it to 3rd party advertisers (and probably can be hacked and leaked)?

 

[gphome]

did they put the part where Google records you key clicks, camera, microphone, all data in your phone, location and store it in a database that their employees can see and sell it to 3rd party advertisers (and probably can be hacked and leaked)?

Do you have any solid evidence of this?

 

[MacBH928]

To be honest I accept an element of Apple fanboy-ism on a website like this, and you certainly come up against a "Church of Apple" on Reddit forums. As a iphone user, with ipads also in my household, but as someone who also used a Pixel 8 Pro previously and a Samsung S22 Ultra before that I'm certainly open minded and I agree that there is no reason why Google cannot be trusted as much as Apple. If anything, considering the MASSIVE amount of additional confidential data Google has over Apple, it is a great achievement for Google to not have had a large data issue.

The Google privacy thing is used here just to bash Google (as Google fans use the "iphone sheep" thing to bash Apple), but has little merit in the real world. What is clear is that it will be an interesting next few years in mobile phone development, and the best thing to do is keep yourself platform agnostic so you have flexibility to move to who performs the best and is most deserving of your money. You specifically have to be aware of this with Apple, as they intentionally don't develop cross platform applications for their products, this is against the industry norm and not what the competition do who are more consumer friendly in this respect. Don't let yourself be tied by invisible handcuffs.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/google-settles-5-billion-consumer-privacy-lawsuit-2023-12-28/

Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking

Google is the latest tech company to drop the longstanding wall between anonymous online ad tracking and user’s names.

www.propublica.org

 

[danbalsh]

The colour scheme for Gemini is very similar to the Siri - who stole from who?

 

[Makosuke]

and yes, people who buy a Google phone know that they are the product

At least you actually have to pay for Pixel phones, but I genuinely wonder what fraction of people using Google services realize that they're the product.

I'm sure some do, and as long as you get that and are okay with it there's nothing inherently wrong with accepting being a product in exchange for something free (or lower-cost). The issue, however, is when people think that thing is actually free free, and aren't aware of what they're giving in return for it. I suspect the significant majority of Google service users don't actually understand that.

 

[Geoffb9]

The most company I don't trust is Google.

 

[Geoffb9]

much better than Gemini

That's my experience as well. I'd even use Claude.ai before Gemini.
In fact I was disappointed in Gemini. I had higher expectations.

 

[chmania]

…and Google thinks that people trust them..?

Why not? Safari's only search engine is Google, after all. You don't trust Safari?

 

[MacBH928]

Do you have any solid evidence of this?

Not unless you work on the inside of Google and see with your own eyes the information they have on their computers. But here are some links that might make you double think if you want to trust Google:

Google’s Nest fiasco harms user trust and invades their privacy | Malwarebytes Labs

Last month, Google announced that its Nest Secure would be updated to work with Google Assistant software. The problem? Google never told users its product had a microphone to begin with. Simple oversight or invasion of privacy? We break it down.

www.malwarebytes.com

Google really is listening and recording on apps

Google records your queries when you use the "Hey Google," wake word with its speakers. But for voice search, it records way more, like everything

www.usatoday.com

Google’s privacy washing attempts to redefine what privacy means | Proton

Google claims privacy should be available to everyone. But this claim requires a new definition of privacy that doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

proton.me

The Dark Side of Google: A Closer Look at Privacy Concerns

The dark side of Google - Discover the truth about Google's privacy practices and their impact on user data. Learn how to protect your online privacy.

campaignsoftheworld.com

 

[MacBH928]

Why not? Safari's only search engine is Google, after all. You don't trust Safari?

False
Its the default .

 

[chmania]

False
Its the default .
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Sure, but who wants the rest of those search engines? That's why I said only.

 

[chmania]

You can simply install Gemini on Safari on Mac and on iPhone.

 

[JippaLippa]

Ah yes, because we definitely trust Gemini!

 

[czoli]

Wasn't really impressed. It was just google assistant features rebranded. The photo stuff is cool but how fake do I want to make my memories?

They are light years ahead ....

 

[alchemistmuffin]

It's not quite clear if Apple Intelligence is incapable of handling full text generation and photorealistic image creation, or if these are capabilities that Apple feels are a little too questionable to touch given the sentiment about AI-created content

It’s not capable to do full text generation ON DEVICE, which is what Apple wants to do on its own AI services.

What I heard from industrial chatter is that Apple’s roadmap for Apple Intelligence is handling full text generation and image creation on their own, BUT ON DEVICE and not handing off to cloud. Unfortunately even with high RAM requirement, the neural engine on Apple Silicon is still not powerful enough, it will be about two or three years away before Apple have a chip capable of having on device text and image generation.

 

[.wojtek]

I would love for all OS ans devices to have a killswitch to turn off all AI features....

 

[batchtaster]

Article Link: Google Touts Pixel 9's Gemini AI Capabilities That Don't Require 'Hand-off to AI Providers You May Not Know or Trust'

Hahahahahahahaha....
🤣😆😂

 

[czoli]

Google is light years ahead but no surprise here, Google, OpenAI are THE players in AI.
It is to be seen if Apple can become a relevant player, no surprise they needed to Partner with OpenAI.
It is really bad that last year Iphone 15 cannot get decent AI because Apple skimped on the RAM to make a few bucks more. Luckely I got a 15 PRO but ghost ... I dodged a bullet

 

[Ubuntu]

…and Google thinks that people trust them..?

If you're considering a Pixel, then yeah, it makes sense. I'd choose Google over OpenAI, for sure.

 

[webkit]

For some strange reason Millennials love Google, even prefer Google Apps over MS Office...
In the meantime, Google is making millions data-mining them. By the time they realized they have been abused this way, it will be too late.

To trust your privacy to a company that depends on personal information to make money, it's insane! Pure non-sense!

I don't think it's that "Millennials" don't realize, it's that they don't particularly care or they feel that all companies are or can be bad and greedy so they might as well use the products they want for "free."

 

[Mac Fly (film)]

Really in MKBHD’s video he showed it connected to a MagSafe like charger I assumed was Qi2?

Qi2 is not on the specs (these phones are certified Qi version 1 compatible). After reading your comment I went to his video to double check. No Qi2 on these phones. Google are idiots.

Now how do we convince the auto industry (where magnetic Qi2 certification is needed the most) to adopt Qi2? Qi2 has additional safety features over Qi, is Qi backwards compatible, and comes with Wireless Power Consortium certified minimum magnetic hold strength.

Here's a 10:55 timestamp for you:

 

[webkit]

Why not? Safari's only search engine is Google, after all. You don't trust Safari?

Google is the only pre-set search default but users can choose other options like Bing, DDG, Ecosia or Yahoo.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

Hahahahahahahaha....
🤣😆😂

That is crazy!

 

[chmania]

.. they feel that all companies are or can be bad and greedy ...

Well, aren't they all, the companies?

Google is the only pre-set search default but users can choose other options like Bing, DDG, Ecosia or Yahoo.

Would you? I won't, I stay with Google, sometimes Bing using Copilot.

 

[Hopefully Smarter]

keep pushing that BS