what has WhatsApp to-do with that now lol. i also don't like common standards in some cases cause that boring for development and doesn't push tech forward. am a software engineer and i also don't use some standards for my software. i dont adopt RestAPI standart in my APIS i use my own Proprietary means
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Perhaps android users can make use of google's excellent software for messaging:
Google Talk
What? Dead since 2013?
Ah how about Reply!
Oh, killed in 2018.
Google Hangouts then?
Oh wait... dead 2022
Google Allo for sure?
oh no er.... 2019
Google Cloud Messaging
Ah also dead 2019. Um
Google Spaces
dead since 2017? Oy.
Meebo! That is a quirky name, use Meebo!
Oh 2012. ah.
I know Google Buzz. Thats the ticket.
Dead huh... 2011 you say....
I KNOW I KNOW LETS USE GOOGLE CHAT! I hear its best feature is a lot of keyboard shortcuts are supported. That's always the #1 consideration for any app.
Google Talk
What? Dead since 2013?
Ah how about Reply!
Oh, killed in 2018.
Google Hangouts then?
Oh wait... dead 2022
Google Allo for sure?
oh no er.... 2019
Google Cloud Messaging
Ah also dead 2019. Um
Google Spaces
dead since 2017? Oy.
Meebo! That is a quirky name, use Meebo!
Oh 2012. ah.
I know Google Buzz. Thats the ticket.
Dead huh... 2011 you say....
I KNOW I KNOW LETS USE GOOGLE CHAT! I hear its best feature is a lot of keyboard shortcuts are supported. That's always the #1 consideration for any app.
don‘t adopting Rest Api makes you a Superhero or just an underwhelming developer?
Google added e2e encryption to RCS, Apple could do the same.
And what is true for you is also true for Apple. Maybe you won’t get a job cause you don‘t know how to use standards and now Apple is forced to implement compatibility between messengers by DMA.
As a developer you should value standards cause they speed up development and there are thousands of tools like swagger /postman …
You don‘t use MQTT as well, do you?
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Apple is certainly not the only company. Do you know how many phones are still being sold that use Micro USB? These models are typically not being sold in North America and mostly not in Europe either, but many companies are holding out on USB-C for various phones. Apple is the only company being bashed for it.
Oh I don‘t know, do you? Can you name a 2022 (not sold, but a new model) smartphone with micro usb?
yes you are wrong RCS is not the SAME as Google RCS, the networks themselves do not support it
Here’s an even better insight on why Google wants Apple to adopt RCS, to send us ads. Text someone via RCS, get an ad in the reply! From Android Authority. Read the whole article
I enabled RCS on Google Messages and all I got was ads (Update: Google responds)
If ads have started to appear in your Google Messages app, you're not alone. The RCS messaging standard may be responsible.www.androidauthority.com
Apple should maybe explain to the masses exactly that, like if we were all 5yo to boot: “So message X on phone A needs to arrive to phone B, this is how message X’s journey begins and the options it can take”.
At the beginning of this RCS conundrum I did raise an eyebrow, but the more I read and what your comments provide (the ones that aren’t “Apple = evil greedy for profit = bad. Go Android”) the less clear cut it becomes.
The insistence from google is definitely a red flag. It would be great to have transparent communication addressing the situation: “RCS can potentially unify the messaging experience but we have these 3 cons still to work out: privacy, spams/ads, google’s this or that” etc… would calm a bit all the constant angst maybe
Which is WhatsApp? Or telegram in some more specific scenarios.
Encrypted? That's what Apple says. Gold standard? Certainly not!
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The more Google push something the more uneasy I generally get.
They’d be paying for a service that they couldn’t slurp data or serve ads on, unlike search.
Your Honor, I'd like this evidence stricken from the record on account of it being devastating to my case. -Google
Sounds to me (and this is coming from an American so correct/inform me if I am wrong), like the EU is using "consumer friendly" with having a backdoor. Like you said there is no mention on any encryption or security and how that will play out, and for ever single messaging platform to be able to connect to another that just sounds like back doors upon back doors. Even if and that is a big If the EU had nothing to do with wanting a backdoor this will lead to companies having much more private access than they already do because then you couldn't use any messaging platform secured or else the EU will fine/shut it down.
This looks like a veil of having options and whatnot but really the spy capabilities of somewhere like China, unless someone can clue me into something I am maybe missing. I don't think I am missing anything though, because for these to messaging platforms to be end-to-end encrypted they would all have to use the exact same encryption which 1. I don't see any companies just doing that at all and 2. could also be a security threat because even if they all end up doing this and having end-to-end encryption if it is ever broken then there goes the data and info for every single person in the EU
They probably won't as this is more of a protocol that you can build apps around.
So when they launch their next 30 messaging apps they could all be based on RCS and remain interoperable etc - They're hoping other apps will use it like Whatsapp and such. I can't see it personally, RCS came way too late and the specification is too lax as to what you are forced to implement to be compliant.
It's like when monitor makers can label their display as HDR even though there's like 10 different "levels" of HDR and the base levels (HDR400, HDR600 etc) could barely be considered HDR.
I'm all for Apple and Google using the same standard. We're so close to this happening... Only greed can stop it.
Google does the same thing, try watching YouTube with a privacy browser.
As far as interoperability goes, iMessage IS interoperable with Android via SMS, if the Android user has a data connection. If an iMessage user sends an Android user a message, they will get it, that’s interoperability. What people seem to be talking about is not interoperability, but feature set compatibility. All messaging platforms have some different features, but this is not the same as interoperability. I don’t believe that the EU has mandated that all message platforms have the same feature set?
When will Google learn that taking a page out of Samsung's Playbook, will just make you look pathetic in the long run? 😑
apple obviously only cares about us North American consumers as it shows time and time again lol