you could probably get around this by removing their phone number and keeping it in notes so no SMS backup, or you remove yourself from iMessage on your number. and just rely on email address to find users.
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'Green Bubbles and Blue Bubbles Want to Be Together' Says Samsung Ad Pushing Apple to Adopt RCS
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These ads really show that apple’s tactic to completely ignore it, works. Even EU won’t force them to open imessage/implement rcs because European users are not special needs and are perfectly capable of installing 3rd party cross platform messengers which makes imessage have too small market share to be classified as gatekeeper.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. The problem however is from a financial, security, and technically standpoint RCS is NOT the solution to this problem and never *can* be.
Google didn’t create RCS. It was created by the same group that created SMS, GSMA. In the current state of things they do stand to lose the most if it fails, though.
It’s not that people are opposed to better interoperability. It’s just that RCS is not a good solution for that.
The features you have been touting, like encryption, are not in the protocol. So you could easily say that the current iteration of the RCS protocol was built mostly by Google.
If, and when, Google gets distracted with a fly on the wall, and pulls the RCS plug, you loose all those features.
How does RCS make it easier to switch to Android? I support Androids and iPhones and never heard anyone in the length of time iMessage has existed ever mention caring about bubble color other than children and news stories.
It's not the bubble colour that's the problem. It's divide of functionality between them. Blue and green bubbles are just shorthand for "the messaging experience Apple wants to be good" and "the messaging experience Apple wants to be bad".
I think it could’ve been had its stewardship not been handed to Google. They don’t own it and didn’t create the standard, but naturally due to android being the only other major phone OS, it fell to Google to make it viable.
It would be really cool if a new, decentralized protocol swept in and became the standard. I doubt that will happen anytime soon and I’d guess we’re resigned to the current state of green messages for the foreseeable future.
I am on the same boat. I do think it is time to move on from SMS technology, and perhaps RCS is the way to go, but I want something independent from these big data firms like Google.
It's text and occasionally a photo attached. I've never had it be "great" on any device. I just expect my stuff to send. If my 65+yo parents can txt me pics of their Vaca constantly from their iPhones to my Android and my work iPhone and I can reply, Who cares?
The problem was none of the carriers could agree so Google he no choice. It was that or let RSC fragment and die.
I don’t think I’ve advocated for Google to be the defacto here. I’ve tried to make that clear. You can argue all you want, but I agree with you on a lot of this. It’s just not as black and white as it’s being made out to be in this thread. I’m not saying RCS is great in its current state, but I think it easily could’ve been with some involvement from more parties at the very beginning.
I just want encryption and full quality pics/videos for all my messages in the messages app, not just the blue ones. I’d argue that most people want that. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for.
Well, WhatsApp is still an a separate entity, if wholly-owned, and not functional with FB despite the other halves best efforts. So there's that.
The carriers all wanted their own version, and Apple wanted nothing to do with it. So it was Google, nothing, or each carrier having their own version. If anything Google saved RCS from becomeing a train wreck.
RCS is neither better nor more secure than iMessage. It's not even debatable.
Because it could easily be better? Simple features like editing or unsending a recently sent message, better-quality image sharing, more manageable group chats, etc are all very doable. Why wouldn't you want something better?
The dirty wide-open secret is governments all over the world spy on everyone. There is no desire, and active pushback, on making communications secure. Because telecoms must be licensed to operate, there’s no real world way to do this unless some sort of global privacy rebellion somehow occurred.
Remember, all the “democracies” in the world are actively trying to convince people to weaken security because “think of the children!”. The FBI and the UK in particular are lobbying for “safe” backdoors, which are technically impossible (but doesn’t stop them from lying to tech-illiterate lawmakers about it).
Well, that would mean that a lot of people are really quite ignorant of that Meta is doing with their data.
The only times I get texts are from scammers, missed calls and occasionally 2-step verification messages. Everyone I know just uses WhatsApp; especially with international contacts being irrelevant yet still costing cell phone users fortunes.
I've never had any urge for any of those. Images look just fine. I'm looking at them on a phone, not a 50in TV. Never wanted to edit or unsend a message. I can do those things in most chat apps. You know what most people still do?
>This is my message with an errr.
>Error*
Almost no one in Teams, Discord or anything else I use to communicate actually edits or unsend anything despite the functionality being there. So why do I need features most already don't use on apps that have them? I find Encryption and privacy multiple levels above those "features" more important.