They are. But I think they'll have better luck collecting MFI royalties from magsafe than generic USB-C cables.
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Greg Joswiak: Apple Will Have to Comply With the EU and Switch iPhone to USB-C
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They are. But I think they'll have better luck collecting MFI royalties from magsafe than generic USB-C cables.
I'd like to remind you that very few phones with a USB-C connector actually support higher than USB 2.0 transfer speeds. The connectors in majority of the phones are only wired for USB2
The context of my post was lightning vs C for the phone. For Pros who need to transfer massive video files to a Mac. Lightning would be too slow.
And again...Apple could very well be super petty and give us USB-C in looks only. They can give us USB-C capability on the iPhone...with USB 2.0 speeds. EU says they have to go to USB-C. EU doesn't say anything about speed. I have USB-C cables in my house that are 2.0 🤷♂️
Which is irrelevant to what Apple could do with USB-C since there are no data transfer requirements. They could use USB 2.0 unless you get a special Apple certified cable.
I couldn't sit through the whole thing. It was pretty cringe listening to their answers.
I mean Apple's still killing it from a revenue perspective, so shareholders and investors still love them.
Many years ago, Apple products were pretty much a near instant buy for me.
I no longer blindly purchase an Apple product.
Yes, I'll probably always stick by Apple, but I kind of long for the era of underdog Apple and not the current flavour.
I mean Apple's still killing it from a revenue perspective, so shareholders and investors still love them.
Many years ago, Apple products were pretty much a near instant buy for me.
I no longer blindly purchase an Apple product.
Yes, I'll probably always stick by Apple, but I kind of long for the era of underdog Apple and not the current flavour.
Definitely. That’s why I can’t say I‘d be greatly surprised if they indeed did away with wired charging connectors altogether - as has been rumoured a while ago.
They‘d then deserve to be roasted by environmental action groups and tech reviewers though (especially when you consider Apple’s own environmental claims). Wireless charging isn’t nearly as efficient as wired charging.
I'm glad they're moving to USB-C it just makes everything simpler, I just wish it didn't take .gov intervention to make it happen
And will probably find some excuse that they had to charge more for USB-C and can blame EU for that too
Given Tim's love of simplified production, I doubt it. I'm not terribly knowledgeable about the technical side of things, but it seems like manufacturing iPhones with different ports would be more complicated than the current SIM and eSIM-only setup. The eSIM only models just removed the SIM tray, rather than replacing it with a whole new part.
I'm not convinced they 'have' to switch to USB-C. There are provisions for wireless charging etc. that allows them to comply with EU regulations if they were to simply eliminate the Lightning port.
That being said, I'm 99.9% confident they will put a USB C port on the iPhone, given its the only current device left on Lightning and they still seemingly need a cable for stupid things like Continuity Camera connection issues.
That being said, I'm 99.9% confident they will put a USB C port on the iPhone, given its the only current device left on Lightning and they still seemingly need a cable for stupid things like Continuity Camera connection issues.
I think, at the very least, Apple will start shipping iPhones sans cables(in addition to removing the charger).
And, of course, at the same time have an array of very attractive USB-C related accessories ready for iPhone USB-C launch.
Or, another route to go down is to treat USB-C as a chore and barely mention the switch but then double down on MagSafe by making it much better than before and doing many more MagSafe products.
Apple really only has to switch from Lightning to USB-C. There’s nothing in the legislation preventing Apple from doing the bare minimum by implementing it and then simply “ignoring” it afterwards and then instead focusing on and promoting MagSafe.
Sounds like a “Pro” feature at the very least, or something Apple will slowly move towards, year by year, to get you to upgrade to an even better I/O after you’ve switched to an USB-C iPhone.
No way to get you to switch out a super capable smart phone if you get 3-5 years of upgrades in the first iteration of the product.
Thread is a bit lengthy to sift through, when it was less a question and more of a ponderance on my behalf.
That said, even after sifting through some of the "answers", there's still questions that remain. I think a universal standard is a good thing for many reasons, but at the same time I still think it has an ability to hinder innovation. I know that's a common, almost political reactionary answer from the tech companies, but I think it rings true in this case.
You're right, my comment was probably a bit dismissive.
I think there has already been a lot of innovation using the USB-C plug regarding data speeds and power delivery, and there is no indication that we've reach the limit of what can be pushed through that connector.
I think Apple will mirror the iPads with the 15 Pros having faster USB-C.
I could see that. That's where the real benefit of having faster speeds would be, for sure. Put that on the Pros, and you have a pretty good feature for those users who actually have a need for those speeds. (Ya know, the ACTUAL "pros", not the people who buy the Pro just to have the Pro 😂)
