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Gurman: Apple Believes Its AI Technology Is Two Years Behind Rivals
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Do you trust it for accurate legal advice? I agree it is a good replacement for google searches, but some things I am not sure I would trust it with.
Apple has spent most of the last few years more worried about protecting App Store revenue in the face of growing threats of regulation.
Most people here can "afford" to upgrade every year... This is not really a flex..... Just because you can afford a useless, dumb purchase does not make it any more useful or smarter.
They're not talking about Siri at all, they're referring to Apple's deployment of LLM as a whole. Also, we're putting a lot of weight into "some at Apple".
"Gurman notes that Apple is in the unique position of presiding over a vast ecosystem of tightly integrated devices, which gives it the advantage of being able to quickly deploy new technologies across its product line."
Um, isn't this a big part of the reason it is so far behind? OpenAI has a single product: ChatGPT. It leaves it to others (Apple, Microsoft) to decide how to deploy the technology into its own ecosystem. Google on the other hand has been integrally involved in developing its own AI technology for a decade. I am sure I have posted threads here and elsewhere for maybe 10 years suggesting something like AI would likely be the downfall of Apple. It isn't just that Siri is a joke, it's that Apple, including Tim Cook, thought it was "good enough." It wasn't. it isn't. It never will be. As a boomer, I gotta say about Tim and his inner crowd: Boomers gotta boom (they think their perspective is the only one worth considering which makes them blind to new things). I can't believe how deaf they've been.
Apple's stupidity when it comes to Siri and the whole AI thing, as compared to Google, reminds me of Steve Ballmer laughing at Apple's iPhone. Oops.
Um, isn't this a big part of the reason it is so far behind? OpenAI has a single product: ChatGPT. It leaves it to others (Apple, Microsoft) to decide how to deploy the technology into its own ecosystem. Google on the other hand has been integrally involved in developing its own AI technology for a decade. I am sure I have posted threads here and elsewhere for maybe 10 years suggesting something like AI would likely be the downfall of Apple. It isn't just that Siri is a joke, it's that Apple, including Tim Cook, thought it was "good enough." It wasn't. it isn't. It never will be. As a boomer, I gotta say about Tim and his inner crowd: Boomers gotta boom (they think their perspective is the only one worth considering which makes them blind to new things). I can't believe how deaf they've been.
Apple's stupidity when it comes to Siri and the whole AI thing, as compared to Google, reminds me of Steve Ballmer laughing at Apple's iPhone. Oops.
Google was completely blindsided by it and it was Google's own research that created it. The only one of the big companies who you could say were prepared is Microsoft, and their implementation of this stuff is still behind as well.
I think this story doesn't explain enough about who at Apple says this, why they said it, and exactly what piece of this they're referring to. They may only be talking about training, and may be comparing that to ChatGPT who had a huge lead on everyone.
Google completely abandoned their work on AI. ChatGPT came along and Google went into red alert mode, quickly creating Bard and calling their old founders back to HQ to find an answer as Google as a whole is threatened by AI - it can search better than Google search in this horrible landscape of algorithm trickery.
Bard moved to Gemini, and I still wouldn't use that over ChatGPT.
Apple's limitations with Siri were related to privacy and security, it's nothing like what you're describing here.
Even Google's Gemini feels far behind OpenAI ChatGPT, and Google is invested the entire company into an AI future. Google initially said no one has a moat around AI, and they will all end up equal but that proves to be wrong, as even after all this time, they are behind, and even Microsoft's implementation which uses ChatGPT still isn't as good so implementation seems to play a big role too.
ChatGPT was able to train on all data without worry of copyright or people blocking them, where is Apple, Adobe and such as being slow and careful to only train on certain data, and it may be that without the same dataset as ChatGPT it may be very challenging to catch up. And even if it does, Apple will be worrisome to have a chat interface since it may say something off brand where is OpenAI is much less worried about that.
Siri is so terrible that will take any improvements, but hope Apple's goal is to beat ChatGPT and not just try to catch up. Time will tell.
ChatGPT was able to train on all data without worry of copyright or people blocking them, where is Apple, Adobe and such as being slow and careful to only train on certain data, and it may be that without the same dataset as ChatGPT it may be very challenging to catch up. And even if it does, Apple will be worrisome to have a chat interface since it may say something off brand where is OpenAI is much less worried about that.
Siri is so terrible that will take any improvements, but hope Apple's goal is to beat ChatGPT and not just try to catch up. Time will tell.
This is what gets me about this AI arms race. Nobody is doing anything beyond a chatbot and some literal Clippy style assistance yet. Apple may be behind on training an LLM but its implementation, even in the beta for 18.1, is already ahead of Microsoft.
Many of us already knew Apple was behind on AI despite some people not wanting to believe it.
That's why Apple wanted their beta testers to help them out
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Wow, it has wow feature... How can I utilize it? Maybe, maybe not. And as someone mentioned, old habits will be biggest obstacle.
Most usefull features will be in specialized programs like Photoshop, Xcode or Office but for majority it can be smart Siri if they can make her, generating cliparts, removing objects from pics and it future live translation or dubbing of videos.
But I think Apple is going way to implement it well and features that can be really usefull for users without wow effect.
> Some Apple employees believe that the company's in-house generative AI technology powering Apple Intelligence is more than two years behind industry leaders
The rest of the employees think it's closer to 5.
FTFY
The rest of the employees think it's closer to 5.
FTFY
It is unfortunate that Apple spent so much time and money on automated EV cars. That was so far from their core mission that they are behind in several areas. With AI people have talked about the failure of SIRI. Apple has washed out all the fun in SIRI. Remember when it responded to pop culture questions like "beam me up" or "open the pod bay doors?" Similarly I used to be able to ask "what flights are overhead" it is would identify the aircraft I was looking at. Now it just recommends "FlightAware."
It is not just AI where Apple is behind, it is the general neglect of core business - well, except perhaps the endless Ted Lasso.
It is not just AI where Apple is behind, it is the general neglect of core business - well, except perhaps the endless Ted Lasso.
So much this. I love watching the internet speculate over the use of AI while I’m sitting over here using AI to build half my projects and unit testing, let alone how much quicker it is to get information over scouring stack overflow.
No, not all of it is on-device. They dedicated a whole segment in one of the keynotes to explaining how their servers for Apple Intelligence will work. Essentially, "more complex requests" require their "Private Cloud".
I guess Tim was too busy chasing the silliest product line ever (vision ‘pro’) to realise the real revolution was generative AI. He needs to go, it’s clear that Apple under his leadership has lost the plot.
No, they IGNORED copyright. There are lawsuits pending, last I checked. The word we use for taking something without permission is “theft.”