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Gurman: Apple Event on March 8, At Least Four M2 Macs to Launch Later This Year
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The long delayed 27" iMac successor is what next for a Mac release, but they are now saying that is delayed from the original April time frame. Of course that could just mean everything happens including LG displays in May.
The M series of chips is referred to as a "System on a Chip", or SOC for short. If the "system" is an upgrade, why do you care about a speed gain? It sounds like you haven't gotten off of the Intel "MHz/GHz train", and that's a train that left the station what, 15 years ago?
You should reconsider whether or not you're putting too much emphasis on speed ratings in your thinking and/or purchase decisions.
Right now I am just hoping for news about an M1 Pro-equipped Mac Mini or something similar, so that this summer I can replace my 2012 quad-core i7 Mac Mini with a new Apple Silicone desktop and I don't have to always use the M1 MacBook Air like I am right now.
Given how late we already are in A15-gen AS I'd expect anything M2 to be released after the next iPhone (with the M2 sharing IP with the A16).
It would also look odd releasing budget/consumer HW on a new gen at the same time (or even before) high end stuff still on last gen.
I also doubt they would announce an iMac(Pro) to be released later, I'd rather expect those to be a WWDC "one more thing".
None of the iMacs have been a WWDC announcement. If not in May, they could do a July/Aug announcement?
June 2017 was wwdc.None of the iMacs have been a WWDC announcement. If not in May, they could do a July/Aug announcement?
Your right. That WWDC was unusual they used it to annnounced a iMac, MacBook, MBA, and MBP.
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lol no. They will not release any M2 devices until late summer
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None of the iMacs have been a WWDC announcement. If not in May, they could do a July/Aug announcement?
You never know. Remember this time when Apple announce the MacBook Pro with a Retina display. This was all during WWDC. This was the big thing. It honestly seems like yesterday 😔😔
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i think it will. i think the BIG mac pro will forever be intel because apple silicon cannot support that form factor as far as we know. those pcie slots will be useless. i think the plan is that they make a smaller mac pro or bigger mac mini that supports the strongest apple chip, and leave the desktop computer case sized mac pro for intel. there were rumors that they was gonna update the intel chip.
Having just received my new M1 MBA I honest to god cannot see how they can improve this laptop much more than it already is. I guess they could make the camera 1080p but just how fast is an M2 even going to be anyway? The M1 is a powerhouse to say the least and the efficiency and battery life as well as cool running temps I'm experiencing have me very happy with this product so unless they do something drastic I can't see myself pulling the trigger on jumping to the new Air so soon.
I'm excited to see what Apple does, as I'm sure most people are but lets be real the current MBA is a nearly perfect machine for like 99% of Mac users.
I'm excited to see what Apple does, as I'm sure most people are but lets be real the current MBA is a nearly perfect machine for like 99% of Mac users.
Exactly what are you getting at here?
I could not care less what clock speed any cpu (or SoC for that matter) has, heck I don’t even know what clock speed the M1 has.
The interesting thing is what speed (as in computational speed, not raw Hzs) gains Apple can squeeze out for every ”generation” of the M-series.
If the speed gains of a new generation is not substantial, that does not bode well for the future of the M-series. The M1 is amazing, but can they keep it going? It’s not like Intel and AMD is sitting on their asses doing nothing. Sure the M1 is great, but I would hate for the M-series to not develop in a timely manner and we lost x86 compatibility for 1-2 gens of better tech, and then relive the whole PPC debacle again.
When the G3s came out, they toasted the Intel stuff, and even the G4 and G5 matched or surpassed anything Intel brought to the market. Then it all went downhill from there, quickly.
This. But the Big Mac Pro will die. There is almost no need for PCIe expansion now if you can scale the SoC out enough which looks possible.
If you have any experience of the high end Xeon servers then you’ll know that the scalability of these machines is pretty poor due to the bus contention and the cache hierarchy. It gets so bad running some paging heavy workloads that two machines with a quarter of the total power are actually capable of higher throughout on our workloads. Apple knows this is the fundamental limit of our current architectures hence the insane bandwidth available on the M1 processors.
I suspect it’s more than possible to match the current configurations available with a 2 SoC M1 Max in a much smaller form factor (mac mini sized) and keep the expansion to purely thunderbolt for storage. At the same time hammering the cost down considerably.
That would cause a lot of stirring in the CAD and research side of things as well as it’d give HP a kick in the nuts.
The PPC architecture and ISA wasn’t massively scalable at the time. That’s why it died. ARM is a little different as it’s just an ISA and the implementation is vendor specific. Apple have total design control here.
Don’t forget Intel dropped out the Pentium 4 at the time when it switched architecture to compensate and it was a disaster for a whole CPU generation. It wasn’t until after that debacle when the Intel Core line appeared that things started looking good again.
You learn from your past mistakes. In this case apple’s mistake was trusting vendor architectures. I suspect they will stop trusting vendor ISAs in future as well and will migrate from ARM to something in house.
There is little to speculate on with a high confidence factor. There was discussion of a discrete GPU, then we have the much larger SoC M1 Max with 32 GPU cores. Apple can certainly create a expandable architecture away from a single SoC. It's believed the next Mac Pro could have 2 or 4 or more Max 1 SoC's on boards. They could certainly engineer high speed data storage that is upgradable, not limited to soldered on like with the SoCs. They could certainly make it either in workstation form or server form. Silicon Graphics had examples of massive RISC based processors arrays that could achieve processing feats that were far from the usual workstation back then. Why does the comparisons to what is announced so far predict how far Apple could go in the same direction towards super computing using ARM?
With some of the recent rumors and reports of leaked CAD files for the MBA successor, I wouldn't even be surprised if they got rid of the MBA entirely and simplified the mobile computer field to MacBook and MacBook Pro.
Kinda like that diagram Steve Jobs presented back in the day with the consumer and pro computers. The re-introduction of a colorful iMac would fit in there nicely, too.
I'd be a bit sad if they did get rid of the MBA, though. Ever since they announced the first gen MBA, I've been somewhat obsessed with them ?
Problem is gurman seems to do more guess work than real leaks these days. Like when he said this product will be out between march and august like that’s hardly difficult to say
We certainly are not helping the perspective that March 8 will offer much.
That's an MR tradition. Best expressed with some major valley girl eye roll.