Gurman: Apple May Announce Drop of 'Hey Siri' Trigger Phrase at WWDC

[Jason2000]

Siri feels nearly a decade behind the competition in terms of usefulness of practical day-to-day inquiries.

Not any more. It seems they are all moving backwards. Do some research on Assistant and see how many Android fans are complaining of how useless it has become over the past year or so. Alexa, which I use daily, seems to be faltering too. Not sure why these companies are dropping the ball but they all appear to be doing so.

 

[DotCom2]

I think they should just make it both ways cuz all 3 of the people who use it will get confused.

 

[Apple Fan 2008]

Even tho I love Siri. I think Apple stopped supporting Siri a long time ago. Especially in iOS. Which one is your favorite Siri icon?

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iOS 5-6

 

[Artemis70]

My MacBook, iPhone, Watch and iPad all frequently start Siri for no good reason. This is with "Hey Siri". I have been thinking about disabling "Hey Siri" forever. With this change, Apple has convinced me. I am not ready to have Siri start even more frequently. "Hey Siri" has been turned off as of now.

 

[Apple Fan 2008]

Hey Siri is useful when I’m too lazy to get out of my bed when I forget to set a wake up alarm.

 

[MaxBurn]

They already do this on apple watch, there is a lift to speak trigger and you just say what you want. Unfortunately it works about half the time for me. One key is it has to be on the watch pace app, and not something else but even still.

 

[kirk.vino]

OpenAI, Google, Microsoft to announce updated versions of their already sophisticated AI chat bots. Apple, “hold my beer!”

 

[vegetassj4]

Just call her:

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and walla...never a mis trigger again.

 

[addamas]

Siri is more and more retarded with each year as many said…

Example from now (United finally scored for draw and match is still pending)

 

[and 1989 others]

I use Siri for two things. Setting a timer in the middle of cooking, usually when both hands are occupied. Then setting an alarm when the phone is at the other side of the room.

I found early on asking it to do anything else ended in failure 99% of the time, so now I dont bother. And probably won't bother even if they do update it.

 

[Zaft]

Thats much better. I have several google devices and I hope google drops the "hey" as well.

 

[aKansasKid]

Great! Now I can get bad answers even faster! 😐

 

[CarAnalogy]

I don’t understand why I was able to set up a custom keyword for Google Assistant on my 2014 Moto X nearly ten years ago, and somehow that was the only phone before or since where that has been possible. It worked great but apparently it was a miracle because humans don’t possess this technology?

 

[sjsharksfan12]

I have a question regarding Siri and using it in the Car. I can't use Car Play because it crashes all the time so I have used a mount. Most times when I ask for directions to somewhere, Siri comes back to me saying "You have to unlock your Iphone first, but I don't recommend doing that while driving". Is there a way to automatically unlock the phone when you go into Drive mode so it can provide you with directions? It seems counter productive and unsafe to unlock your phone in order to use maps.

 

[macmac30]

Siri can't even figure out who I am several times per week..."Who's speaking". Or I have to frequently ask Siri the same thing twice before she will do it. Shortcuts that work one day, don't work the next day. It's very frustrating. One of my favorites is when I invoke my "Hey Siri, Good Night" shortcut to turn off lights, turn fan and white noise on, she replies "Good night???" Why would Apple program Siri to say "Good night" like she is questioning...Are you reeaaalllly going to bed now??? How about a nice, pleasant "good night"???

 

[JM]

Seriously?

“Mm-hmm. I’m listening.”

I know it’s an extra syllable, but that “hey” cuts down on unintended triggering of Siri :/

 

[frqunzfltr]

I usually don't use Siri. Only for setting a timer on my Apple Watch. I never set up Hey Siri. This is the first thing I disable when getting a new device.

 

[DavidMalcolm]

Sometimes I find Siri works super well, though honestly lately I’ve had some really weird errors with my HomePod minis. I think part of it might be airflow near them, but it decides in the weirdest things. Also half the time it can figure out I want something from ambient sounds but decides something other than rain despite the fact that rain is all I ever select.

I wish apple let us build ambient sounds into scenes, it’s so annoying to always use a command that Siri basically only understands 70 percent of the time. (And I have a super neutral accent.)

I also think Apple should be manually listening to all recordings before and after somebody says hey siri **** off. As that would probably instantly give them examples of most of their pain points.

 

[erikkfi]

I see this as a good thing overall. There's something extra aggravating about needing to address Siri in this casual way -- like you'd talk to a real person -- when it's so dumb and couldn't be further from seeming like a real person. I continue to think that the entire Siri brand should be retired, though, whenever Apple can come up with its next AI leap.

 

[Jimmy Goodwood]

Might have a problem with that in Thailand. Siri pops up in quite a few Thai names.

The girl's name Siriporn could bring a few surprises.

Yes my girlfriends name is Sirirak and everyone just calls her Siri. It's going to get complicated, unless it's an optional change. I have home pods in every room & a bunch of other devices with Siri, already get a false trigger every few days. But there was likely not much thought put into this problem.

 

[phenste]

so funnily enough, my issues with Siri are quite different from those of many on this forum—the thing (on my HomePods) goddamn mishears things as “Hey Siri” all the time, even audio from YT videos playing outta my laptop.

if this change happens I will be beyond irritated. the reason I like (loosely using that term) Siri over Alexa (beyond the obvious not wanting my speakers to listen to me 24/7) is because it at least requires a phrase, not just the name itself, to activate.

we all know about half of what Gurman says is just him throwing s—t out just for the hell of it so hopefully this isn’t announced any time soon. I would welcome it if we could customize the trigger phrase—that seems very Apple-esque to me, je ne sais quos—but just having it be “Siri…” no. stop. I already get enough of her saying “UH-HUH?” randomly.

 

[Sevendaymelee]

It's already hard enough for me to avoid accidentally triggering it. If it just becomes the word Siri, it's going to be going off constantly in my house!

 

[zed1291]

Who wants this?

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Even tho I love Siri. I think Apple stopped supporting Siri a long time ago. Especially in iOS. Which one is your favorite Siri icon?

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My favorite is the original 2011 icon with the microphone mesh, but I'm partial to the 2017 version too. The iOS 7-8 era Siri was the most bland and ugly from what I remember.

 

[Hyperchaotic]

Lemme guess. You’ll need the shiny new iPhone 15 just to be able to do that!???

The dedicated speech recognizer that listens for the phrase may or may not have to be beefed up. The question is whether it can be done with a FW update or whether it needs beefier hardware that still uses less power. It is designed to process "Hey Siri" with an absolutely minimal amount of power usage and without awakening the main CPU and "Siri" have one less syllable to work with.

I'm guessing they would want it to work on old phones as well, also due to branding, etc. but the question is whether the existing Speech Recognizer running on the tiny Always On Processor can keep a low number of false positives without sucking more juice. Hopefully it's more about ML training than processing power...