Yeah but you have to consider that includes Chromebooks and 500 dollar laptops, which is a big slice of the market where Apple chooses not to compete.
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Gurman: Apple Planning No New Mac Releases For Remainder of 2022
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Yeah but you have to consider that includes Chromebooks and 500 dollar laptops, which is a big slice of the market where Apple chooses not to compete.
The mistake many of us make is to believe that Apple prioritise the customer. First and foremost their thinking addresses their bottom line and business strategy. Part of the business strategy is of course to say the customer comes first but the evidence speaks differently. We are all just part of the scheme to make more money and devices and services can make that happen.
Right now, Apple are probably kicking themselves over making the 1st Gen M1 devices too good - now they have the challenge of making us buy items that show only incremental improvements.
You will be absolutely fine with an M1 Mini - I know as I have one. It's biggest issue is the miserly number of ports which Apple reduced deliberately to make many buy the Studio models down the line. The truth was that if the M1 Mini had been given the ports, 95% of customers would not have needed a Studio. Apple of course play on the idea that we will need a Studio but we all know there are few people doing the kind of work to justify it.
The problem after your 27" iMac is finding a compatible monitor as 4K models often have scaling issues and after 5K you may not want to exist on 1440.
For all the above reasons I'm presently feeling rather differently towards Apple - more than ever I feel like a pawn in a never-ending game. I still build Windows PCs so I'm taking a close look at forthcoming 13th Gen motherboards which I can put in my enormous Fractal XL case. Somewhat oddly, if you have the space, you can run a monster like this as quietly as a Mac Mini as long as you're happy using Resolve or Premiere. You regain control of a system as you have an infinite choice of ports, storage and so much else besides. As we might soon see adverts in the Apple eco-system I would also say that my experience with Windows 11 has been excellent - it even looks like MacOS. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!
they could also withdraw from the development of the pro model and its place could be taken by the studio model, which in the future may get more powerful processors, who knows ... certainly not gurman
You’re sporting a 2016 MacBook Pro and Series 1 Watch. I would not worry yourself about when the Mac Pro comes out
Red,
This reminds me of this 1 fella on MacRumors who keeps lambasting Apple products he never bought. Keeps claiming X Y and Z features/hardware is substandard
As it never received a product recall nor did anyone file a class-action lawsuit about it being "substandard" leads me to believe that it achieved its KPI.
Some people just want to complain to make themselves feel good.
Makes total sense, the M1 Pro/Max MBPs are still the king of the hill and a heck of a lot of firepower; why bother cannibalizing sales of those? Might as well as squeeze another half a year of sales out of them.
Edit: Hrm, I meant to post this in the "New 14-in and 16-in MBPs delayed until next year thread, oops. Sorry.
Edit: Hrm, I meant to post this in the "New 14-in and 16-in MBPs delayed until next year thread, oops. Sorry.
Who cares about the opinions of PC users spouting off in a Mac forum?
Is Gurman secretly working in partnership with MacRumors?! This news will just result in us all hitting refresh on this website for another 3 months. Although I can't be hitting it too often – my MacMini from 2015 might explode if I do!
#rollon2023 #rollonthenewmacs
#rollon2023 #rollonthenewmacs
I'm feeling good with my decision to upgrade the RAM in my 2018 Mac mini this summer instead of replacing it with an M2 mini that I thought I was going to be able to buy in 4Q 2022. But yeah, putting an M2 chip in the Mini would probably be about a week of design work so low hanging fruit indeed. Must be that Apple just can't make enough M2 chips and they couldn't give the Mac Studio enough runway because of supply constraints. They can't upgrade the Mac Studio since they are just getting to the point where they can actually sell it in volume in regular shipping times and if the M2 mini came out it would close the performance gap to the Mac Studios they just sold but the Mini would be substantially cheaper.
This statement doesn't make any sense.
The first M1 Macs got released roughly 2 years ago. Most people are not upgrading their PCs every 1-2 years (more like 3-5 years for pros, and 6-7 years for average consumers). Right now, Apple's bigger challenge is likely sorting our their supply chain in China so they can continue to release more hardware to sell to people still on intel Macs.
And Apple accomplishes this by making great products that people are willing to pay a premium for, so our incentives are aligned in this regard at least.
I don't think people are shelling out money for products that they don't enjoy using. At least, if they are doing so, that says more about them than it does about Apple.
Not that surprising - I don't think Apple ever release per-model sales/revenue figures, but the MacBook Air and lower-end MacBook Pros probably account for a far bigger chunk of profits than the Mac Pro. Apple could probably run a viable business just selling laptops - although that would probably lead to a slow loss of the higher-end video/graphics/audio apps as developers concentrated on PC.
But, also, the Unique Selling Point for ARM-based CPUs is the power/performance ratio, which makes laptops and tablets the killer applications for Apple Silicon (and also high-density computing/data centre applications where you have vast power and A/C bills - but that's not what iMacs and Mac Pros are for). With desktop workstations - especially full-size towers like the Mac Pro - low power is "nice to have" but not such a killer feature.
Another killer feature of Apple Silicon is that its GPUs thrash any other embedded GPU - particularly Intel's integrated graphics - but once you get to systems large enough to use AMD discrete GPUs, Apple Silicon starts to lose that advantage, especially on software that hasn't been optimised for Metal etc.
So replacing the 2019 Mac Pro with Apple Silicon is pretty challenging - supporting 1.5TB of RAM and multiple, high-end PCIe GPUs by making a new "xeon killer" Apple Silicon chip is expensive, and involves throwing away some of the M1/M2 series' key party tricks like unified, on-package RAM. As for scaling the existing CPU designs: the hypothetical 4xMax M1 Extreme would presumably have topped out at 256GB on-package RAM - maybe M2 can increase that to 512GB - and the initial results of the Studio Ultra suggest that even a 2xMax is getting into diminishing returns without software being highly optimised for the unusual CPU/GPU config. Having all the "pro" software that Mac Pro customers run - including lots of specialist stuff - would also be a major undertaking.
However, it's only the replacement for the 2019 Mac Pro we're waiting for, and only the 2019 Mac Pro that offered such extreme RAM and GPU/PCIe options. The Studio Max and Ultra feel very much like "the Trashcan Mac Pro done right" - and a Studio Max/Ultra + Studio Display combo is the new iMac Pro (or top-end 5k iMac) and comes in at a comparable, if not lower, price.
Apple "confirms" with a promotion that there will be no new MacBook Pro 14/15 until December 24th. Email through professional service today. The condition is to buy a minimum of 5 MacBook Pro (only 14/16) … 😐
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Sigh. Oh well, I've waited this long to replace my 2012 MBP, I can wait a little longer.
Apple is not planning to announce any new Macs in the remainder of this year, with all planned releases expected to take place in the first quarter of 2023, including updated versions of the MacBook Pro, Mac mini, and the Mac Pro, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said today.
Writing in his latest Power On newsletter, Gurman said Apple has decided to wait until next year to announce new Macs, including MacBook Pros which were rumored to launch this month. "I'm told that Apple is aiming to introduce the upgraded models—including M2-based versions of the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros—in the first quarter of calendar 2023," Gurman said today.
During the company's latest earnings call, Apple CEO Tim Cook said Apple's "product lineup is set" ahead of the holidays, possibly suggesting there will be no new product launches this year as Apple gears up for the holiday season. Apple's CFO, Luca Maestri, provided a more decisive confirmation saying, "we have a very challenging compare against last year, which had the benefit of the launch and associated channel fill of our newly redesigned MacBook Pro with M1," Gurman noted today in Power On.
As previously reported, Apple continues to test an Apple silicon Mac Pro with a configuration that includes 24 CPU cores (including 16 performance and eight efficiency cores), 76 graphics cores, and 192GB of memory. The Mac Pro is expected to be powered by the "M2 Ultra" and "M2 Extreme" chips with at least twice or four times the performance as the M2 Max chip, expected to be announced alongside the updated MacBook Pros next year.
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I wanted to go air too but for the price when its spec'd up I just think the pro is a much better value.
That's exactly what I mean. It's the process Intel followed that worked really well for a while. Update design, keep same design and just shrink process, update design, shrink again, etc.
I'm not an engineer either but apparently the shrinking got a lot harder than the designing a while ago.
Some boat here, although, I am, personally, having a hard time justifying a new MBP to myself because my 2012 (with 16GB RAM and SSD) still is doing what I need.I am being lured by all the info about how fast the new ones are, though (i.e. - a question of want vs need).
M2 is only going to bring marginal performance gains, so why wait? The M3 machines are going to be the more substantial but those seem a long way off right now.