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My bigreat problem is, if it is like the App Store, if I search for “Originals” (local burger joint) and it throws up McDonald’s as the first result, it will be annoying and useless.

The same already happens for Apps, search for any App by name and it is never the first result, even if the query is a 100% match. Enter Threema, for example, and the first match will be WhatsApp, Telegram or some other messaging app, so Apple knows I am looking for Threema explicitly and it knows Threema is a messaging app, but instead of that being the first result, they go out of their way to annoy me and offer up something irrelevant.
Yea I never understand why you need ads for huge businesses that everyone knows. Geeze we went from PA to WV and I swear there were at least 50 McDs. Nearly every exit food sign had McD on it. Stop advertising and lower prices. That's what will make me spend there.
 
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It might be slightly inferior to google maps, but I wouldn't describe it as garbage. It's still very useful and there is less crap on the screen when you open Apple maps vs Google maps.
I know Apple was crap in the beginning, but it's much better now. The lane guidance has gotten much better, and I don't like the autozoom on Google. It always seems to be too close like you can't even see how the road curves ahead.
 
It will not be pop-ups while using.
I can already see the class actions rolling in if an ad popped up while someone was driving and caused an accident.
It's clearly going to be just like the ads in the Appstore.
Search for a place, see an ad at the top of the results.
Thats it.
As I said earlier, I'm shocked this wasn't already a thing.
I hope they don't even go the Waze route and pop them up when you are stopped. If it gets too crazy, I will give Google Maps another shot.
 
In mine as well.
It wasn't a while back. I reported a problem with the entrance for a Panera Bread a month or so apart, and it still wasn't fixed so I didn't even bother anymore. But I haven't had to report anything in at least a year.
 
So will we see a discount in iPhone prices to compensate for Apple taking ad revenue from businesses + stealing away user UI space?

Didn't think so.

Regressive move and I'll use Apple Maps less for searching now.
Yes this is what even makes it worse. They're using ads for $$$ but also rumored to be raising prices
 
Problem is they definitely won’t be few in number. Every time someone resorts to ads as a source of money, whether it’s a website, tv network or any kind of company, they abuse the resource by putting excessively too many ads. It’s a resource no one in the world ever uses reasonably. Better if they don’t even get started on the ads idea.
And it's not just the ads. It's that the ALSO raise prices. Why did you do ads for $$$ and then still increase prices?!
 
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So will we see a discount in iPhone prices to compensate for Apple taking ad revenue from businesses + stealing away user UI space?
Don’t believe it works that way.
Didn't think so.

Regressive move and I'll use Apple Maps less for searching now.
I’m all for voting with your $$$. For me, if I use Apple Maps less what to use more?
 
Apple was forced to increase ad revenue in response to pending legislation in the EU. Maybe you can provide a citation for what their principles were and when did they start changing.
Apple wasn’t forced to do anything. This was a choice. Nobody held a gun to Tim’s head. And are you new to Apple? If not, surely you recall that historically one of the big draws of Apple’s products is the lack of pre-installed bloatware and ad-ware. Seems those days are over.

“At the D8 conference Steve Jobs said many companies mistakenly believe the distributors (retailers, carriers, cable providers, etc.) are their customers. Apple believes end users are their customers and in this case they don't seem to care a wit what the carriers want.”


If Apple is manipulating your Maps search results based on who paid them, you’re no longer the customer, the business owners are.

A lot of companies do this kind of thing. My company does this. This is not at all unique to Apple lol.

I think the universe is laughing at this off-topic comment discussing posters and not posts. Thread topic:
"Gurman: Apple Planning to Show Ads in Maps App Starting Next Year".
I was simply responding to another user’s query. And I doubt the universe cares about this at all. Seems to have gotten under your skin though.
 
(not directed at you specifically) Did anybody read this before commenting? It appears to be along the lines as "Where can I get a good cup of coffee?", and Starbucks gets to the top of the list because they invested advertising money to be the number 1 (but not the ONLY) search result.
Same thing as I said with McD. I know they exist. I know SBux exists! They are actualy nice if it is some smaller business I never heard of.
 
When I use youtube I don’t mind one or even two short 15 second commercials at the beginning. I figure it is a free service so I don’t mind that. But what often happens now is I’m watching a 15 minute video and in the middle an ad will popup that is about an hour long. Do they really expect someone to watch that ad?
Yes I pretty much X if one comes up in the middle. Hopefully that means they get no ad money then.
 
Can you clarify what you mean by turn by turn navigation? My phone gives me every step (after this light turn left on the next light). But I see people say this so it must be some feature I dont understand.
Yea everything seems great with lights and stop signs and the after this turn at the next thing. Only things I would like is don't tell me about the next turn when I'm still far out, and I wish it would always tell you which way you are turning for the turn after the current, especially if it's not too far. If I'm in unfamiliar and busy territory, I like to know what lane to be in in advance.
 
Not sure about the guy your responding to but, I use Apple Maps these days as its gotten better but still have GM as backup. There are still instances it screws up where GM does not. Worst was 2-3 years back when it said to drive onto the railway tracks to get to the Federal building near the MPLS VA, or where it said to take the correct exit downtown but the map displayed the wrong turn. On occasions giving longer routes (no not time saving due to traffic), haven't seen that issue since a year fortunately. Defiantely much better today but GM in my personal experiece still has an edge though diminishing as time goes by. Also just because your experience differs from somone I wouldn't say they don't know what they are talking about, its not like the world revolves around our individual bubbles, as if everyone experiences the same...
Yes much better for me too. Funny ones from back were telling me to turn onto and unfinished road, and sending me to Dunkin' Donuts, but it was a residential development with no businesses in sight
 
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I understand that Apple has a responsibility to maximize profit, but when are the engineers going to be allowed to step in and say enough is enough...

The worst part is not even the usability concerns I have for the app. It's the ability for larger businesses to pay to get pushed ahead of smaller ones.
And that's what makes it BS. They aren't doing it to be known. Everyone knows McD SBux etc. They just do it to keep anyone else out of the ad space.
 
I searched for McDonald's on Google Maps and the first choice was an ad for Wendy's

Is that what everyone is worried about Apple doing too?

I mean, sure, I guess it's annoying. But honestly I found the result I was looking for and I moved on with my day.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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That map is exactly the craziness we saw from PA to WV. There had to be over 50 McD. Almost every exit food sign had McD on it
 
I recently read a Reddit thread about technical issues with recent Samsung flagships and the terrible support, including customers who are paying for Samsung Care +

Moving to Samsung scares me tbh, I'm not saying Apple support is perfect but it seems much better than that Samsung hot mess

Then there is a Google .... I have a Pixel 6 (work phone) and it's not super smooth and it's buggy (it has some cool useful features though)

And don't get me started on battery life and standby battery drain; I'm not spending my time disabling features that are selling points and tweaking my phone to optimize the battery

Give up Imessage/Facetime? I have family/Friends abroad so we use Whatsapp/Messenger, but my social circle here in Canada is on Apple and they won't install 3rd party messaging apps

So I think I'm gonna have to stay on Apple even with the ads

Besides if the ads are more like search results like the promoted apps in the App Store they won't bother me, and I don't use most Apple stock apps anyway
 
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Apple was forced to increase ad revenue in response to pending legislation in the EU. Maybe you can provide a citation for what their principles were and when did they start changing.

If (in your opinion) Apple potentially adding search ads to Maps is in response to the upcoming EU regulations, what was Apple's adding search ads to the App Store in 2016 in response to?
 
Yea I never understand why you need ads for huge businesses that everyone knows. Geeze we went from PA to WV and I swear there were at least 50 McDs. Nearly every exit food sign had McD on it. Stop advertising and lower prices. That's what will make me spend there.

Reminder advertising is big business e.g., everyone knows Coke and Pepsi yet look how much they spend on advertising each year to keep their brand in the minds of consumers.



If it's some smaller place, I like it. I might check it out if I've never heard of it. But I don't need a McD ad. I know they exist!

You may know they exist but if travelling, you may not know where they exist and a Maps search ad could be an opportunity for McD to highlight their presence over a Burger King, Wendy's, etc.

Also, I imagine some of these ads will be about more than just identifying a business location and could also promote new products, offers, sales, etc. that the user may be unaware of.
 
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If (in your opinion) Apple potentially adding search ads to Maps is in response to the upcoming EU regulations, what was Apple's adding search ads to the App Store in 2016 in response to?
That Apple wants to "triple" ad-revenues I believe is a fallout from this pending EU regulations, that could result in billions of lost revenues for Apple.
 
Yea you're just going from the frying pan into the fire. At least Apple still doesn't just pop up random ads from the home screen.
Yet. No random ads on the home screen yet. That day could very well come and some folks here will again manufacture a reason to justify Apple’s decision to downgrade the user experience for the sake of increasing revenue.
 
Apple wasn’t forced to do anything. This was a choice. Nobody held a gun to Tim’s head. And are you new to Apple? If not, surely you recall that historically one of the big draws of Apple’s products is the lack of pre-installed bloatware and ad-ware. Seems those days are over.

“At the D8 conference Steve Jobs said many companies mistakenly believe the distributors (retailers, carriers, cable providers, etc.) are their customers. Apple believes end users are their customers and in this case they don't seem to care a wit what the carriers want.”
There is no bloatware and times change. I don't know about others but I can put up with non-intrusive ads, done in a way that protects my privacy. With pending regulations, the ad-free days are over. Apple, imo, has to increase revenue to offset the potential loss in revenue. People will decide if they want to stick with Apple.
Yep, what Apple wanted back then was good for everybody. Today it is not.
If Apple is manipulating your Maps search results based on who paid them, you’re no longer the customer, the business owners are.
As long as ads are clearly identified and I can skip them, I will be okay with those ads.
A lot of companies do this kind of thing. My company does this. This is not at all unique to Apple lol.
You said Apple wasn't benevolent. They are. They still are a for-profit company and have to sell goods and services at a price point that people are willing to buy and Apple makes the profit they want.
I was simply responding to another user’s query. And I doubt the universe cares about this at all. Seems to have gotten under your skin though.
Seems to have gotten under your skin.
 
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