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Maybe Apple is adding ads to offset the money they will lose from 3rd-party app stores and sideloading pirates?!?!?

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The implementation of the ads in Apple Maps we’re announced after the regulation of iOS in the EU. The cancer is the eu regulations now in stage 4. Thanks for an apt analogy.
Try again. Ads in the Music and Settings apps were put in place long ago. Apple Music ads were there at least 2 years ago.


Don’t know when Settings had ads inserted, but they’re there too.

 
(If you don’t agree to this, add your own comment with opposing view rather than disliking this one. This is my opinion.)

As long as main results are not suppressed and the ads are clearly marked and few in number, I’m fine with this. I trust Apple to not sell identifiable user data so no issues. We can’t escape ads anyway. Hoping Apple would pave the way for better ad handling.
Can’t stop laughing at this level of naïveté.
 
Can you clarify what you mean by turn by turn navigation? My phone gives me every step (after this light turn left on the next light). But I see people say this so it must be some feature I dont understand.
Turn by turn -> selecting destination and having maps offer quickest route and voice over (if needed) when to change lanes, take exits etc . Maybe it’s my terminology that’s off 🧐

I’m living in Saudi and despite all the push from Apple, their Maps pale compared to Google maps… I don’t need to use it to get to work for instance, but congestion info is priceless and can save lot of time and headache.I’ve not yet seen anyone in years using Apple Maps here on their iPhones. Sure, traffic info now shows in Apple Maps, but it’s useless if I want to know how long will it take me to get to somewhere else in Riyadh
 
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Try again. Ads in the Music and Settings apps were put in place long ago. Apple Music ads were there at least 2 years ago.


Don’t know when Settings had ads inserted, but they’re there too.

It’s my opinion, tripling the ad revenue as apple states is in direct response to the impending loss of business in the EU.
 
We the customers are the losers in the bid of government to make iOS a public utility. Unfortunately ads in Apple Maps, imo, are a fallout of the governments that want to regulate apple to death.

So we customers always lose no matter what. We lose if big tech companies are regulated because, according to them and many people, it stifles innovation. We lose if they aren’t regulated because they become more abusive of us customers over time as they become more greedy.
 
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If @Apple starts with ad-content, no matter how tastefull they implement it, i’m out. First we pay the Appletax for our products, for them to be infested with ad’s. It is a big no for me. And it would not surprice me if they make a «ad-block» subscription where you see no ads for a lot of $$$
I was thinking of swapping my iPhone 12 mini with the new 14Pro, but if this is correct, i will not do that. Then i will rather go over to other Brands (not Samsung), pay less for the phone, to be served ad’s. This is a non starter for me period! Hell no! I have no problems selling my IPhone 12 Mini, Applewatch series 7 and my IPad Air. This is just Apple being gready, and the avrage consumer being kickt under the bus.
 
It’s my opinion, tripling the ad revenue as apple states is in direct response to the impending loss of business in the EU.
Apple can make up whatever marketing-friendly reason they want, the fact is they started implementing ads in the OS years ago. You're of course free to willfully ignore that fact and swallow their misdirection hook, line, and sinker. After all, it's far from the most egregious example of someone ignoring reality for the sake one's own manufactured and distorted worldview.
 
So we customers always lose no matter what. We lose if big tech companies are regulated because, according to them and many people, it stifles innovation. We lose if they aren’t regulated because they become more abusive of us customers over time as they become more greedy.
Imo, the customer loses bigger when big tech is micro regulated and innovation stunting regs such as making the iOS App Store a public utility are enacted. The customers are the losers in the long run. My iPhone is not like my electric company or cable company. I can buy android in a second. Competition keeps everybody honest.

Regulate companies for safety, absolutely. Regulate them for functionality. Nope.
 
Apple can make up whatever marketing-friendly reason they want, the fact is they started implementing ads in the OS years ago. You're of course free to willfully ignore that fact and swallow their misdirection hook, line, and sinker. After all, it's far from the most egregious example of someone ignoring reality for the sake one's own manufactured and distorted worldview.
You of course are also free to ignore the statement about tripling apples as revenue was very recent.

I understand what you’re saying. Many do not see the big picture.
 
Please dear lord no. We pay the ‘Apple Tax’ so that our systems are mostly devoid of bloatware and advertisements. Don’t destroy the platform, Apple.
This is GOING to happen.
Yes, I hate it. But it will happen for sure.
 
Timmmey keeps milking Apple for everything they got.
They are not inventing anything new any more and have become a sorry excuse of a company.

Waaayyyy behind Android, stuff that takes two clicks in Anroid is taking 5-6 in Apple.
Literally nothing is intuitive any more.
Ridiculous.
 
I was thinking of swapping my iPhone 12 mini with the new 14Pro, but if this is correct, i will not do that. Then i will rather go over to other Brands (not Samsung), pay less for the phone, to be served ad’s.
Come over to the Dark Side. No I don't mean android, I mean jailbreak/root.🤓
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Root your phone and ads can be a thing of the past. I don't know if there are any system wide ad blocking apps for iOS, but there is for android. Being able to use my phone without ads is the big reason my daily beater is an android. Too bad Apple keeps breaking jailbreak with each OS update.😒
 
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You of course are also free to ignore the statement about tripling apples as revenue was very recent.

I understand what you’re saying. Many do not see the big picture.
It doesn't matter when Apple made the statement regarding tripling ad revenues when they had already been implementing ads in the OS for at least a couple years now. There's no change in Apple's behavior here except to expand upon what they were already doing long before any new laws were passed. If Apple had never put ads in the OS before you might have even a crumb of an argument. The fact is Wall Street expects never ending growth and this is simply Cook's attempt at continuing that expected growth for AAPL.

This of course is aside from the original point I was making, which is that Apple will always choose $$$ over principles. The new EU law is a reality that Apple has to deal with and if nothing else was a real world test on what Apple values more, sticking to their principles or $$$. Assuming they believe they would stand to lose revenue from the law they had three options: a) eat the cost, b) try to recoup the lost revenue but require the plan adhere to their "principles", or c) try to recoup the lost revenue, the impact to their "principles" be damned. Apple chose option c because as I said Apple will choose money over principles. Assuming your opinion is correct, that Apple is doing this because of lost revenue due to new regulations, then you tacitly admit as much. You are free to defend Apple's abandonment of their principles in order to chase the $$$, however you don't get to pretend that Apple adhered to their principles, as when put to the test they blatantly did not do so.
 
No, what it shows is apple is under every right to keep its revenue stream, especially since the EU is attempting to place apples ip into the public domain and apple probably force apple to lose billions.
Apple is under every right to do whatever they legally want. Nobody argued differently.

But the reality is apple would have done this irrespective of Eu rulings. Hardware sales are stagnating as everyone practically have an iPhone already. And services are the biggest growth potential they have. This makes it the logical end results


Apple have tried getting in the add space since 2010
 
It doesn't matter when Apple made the statement regarding tripling ad revenues when they had already been implementing ads in the OS for at least a couple years now. There's no change in Apple's behavior here except to expand upon what they were already doing long before any new laws were passed. If Apple had never put ads in the OS before you might have even a crumb of an argument. The fact is Wall Street expects never ending growth and this is simply Cook's attempt at continuing that expected growth for AAPL.

This of course is aside from the original point I was making, which is that Apple will always choose $$$ over principles. The new EU law is a reality that Apple has to deal with and if nothing else was a real world test on what Apple values more, sticking to their principles or $$$. Assuming they believe they would stand to lose revenue from the law they had three options: a) eat the cost, b) try to recoup the lost revenue but require the plan adhere to their "principles", or c) try to recoup the lost revenue, the impact to their "principles" be damned. Apple chose option c because as I said Apple will choose money over principles. Assuming your opinion is correct, that Apple is doing this because of lost revenue due to new regulations, then you tacitly admit as much. You are free to defend Apple's abandonment of their principles in order to chase the $$$, however you don't get to pretend that Apple adhered to their principles, as when put to the test they blatantly did not do so.
Apple made the statement they would have 50% of the mobile add revenue and compete against google in 2010. And there is only one way to compete against google and that’s by becoming them and selling relevant adds, it was just a question of when and how much will they sacrifice their privacy principles


So you are correct in saying it doesn’t matter when they said resend statements when it’s been a decade in the making.

Taking over adds in apps
Adds in apple apps
Adds in iOS system.
Scanning your iPhone data and send of to god knows whom.

Privacy isn’t a guarantee, and we are turned a product yet again.

This time we don’t have a choice to leave.
Google does it, Microsoft does it and apple does it. Adds are everywhere
 
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I thought the article said the adds were only to prioritize search results in Apple Maps. People make it sound like there will be popup adds.
 
It doesn't matter when Apple made the statement regarding tripling ad revenues when they had already been implementing ads in the OS for at least a couple years now. […]
Disagree on this fundamental point. The fact they are looking to triple their ad revenue, a recent revelation, can be seen to making up potential lost revenue in the EU and other jurisdictions.
 
Apple is under every right to do whatever they legally want. Nobody argued differently.
That’s not the point. Of course apple follows the laws. And if the law says your App Store belongs to me, your commissions belong to me, your sideloading belongs to me, apple has few choices.

But the reality is apple would have done this irrespective of Eu rulings.
Maybe or maybe not.
Hardware sales are stagnating as everyone practically have an iPhone already. And services are the biggest growth potential they have. This makes it the logical end results
Along with the usurping of App Store revenues.

Apple have tried getting in the add space since 2010
 
Apple is under every right to do whatever they legally want. Nobody argued differently.

But the reality is apple would have done this irrespective of Eu rulings. Hardware sales are stagnating as everyone practically have an iPhone already. And services are the biggest growth potential they have. This makes it the logical end results


Apple have tried getting in the add space since 2010

I do disagree that hardware sales are slowing for Apple though. While many people do own an iPhone, they are going to want to upgrade at some point. With over a billion active users, and assuming each holds on to his iPhone for 3-4 years on average, we are looking at potentially 300 million iPhones sold this year.

So even with longer upgrade cycles, I believe Apple is on track to sell more iPhones than ever (assuming they have the supply), simply by virtue of a burgeoning user base.

What this also means is that Apple is a long way off from pivoting into a services or advertising company, as many like to imply (such claims simply fail to hold up to scrutiny), because the latter continue to make up only a small portion of Apple’s overall revenue. These are there to further add value to the ecosystem, and I believe Apple is in a unique position to implement these in a manner that respects the user’s privacy while still allowing devs to connect with consumers.

No doubt the issue of ads will continue to be a very thorny and controversial topic for Apple though, but if the people here want to hate on Apple, then I say at least hate right. Arguments should be right for the correct reasons. Not just page after page of “burr…ads bad. Apple bad”.
 
If Google pulled its head out of its ass, stopped changing its native apps, and offered some quality hardware, I would have an Android. Also, it baffles me Google can't figure out how to make a decent watch. I hate Apple but their product is far superior to Android.
 
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