Gurman: Apple Working on New Monitors, Including Updated Pro Display XDR

[switz]

Very pleased with my 2022 new system: Mac Studio Ultra with 128GB Ram, 64 core GPU and 8TB SSD with two Studio Displays (ordered with VESA mounts) attached. My existing Bose desk speaker system with sub-woofer takes care of replacing the tiny speaker(s) in the Mac Studio and the Studio Displays.

When I remember my $10,000 1990s IIfx with Radius 21' color monitor and video card, local talk and 80MB hard drive, I think the same $10,000 I spent for my new system is a bargain for all the increases in every aspect of my computer use.

One has to bite the bullet and buy today's hardware and not await vaporware that may never appear.

YMMV

 

[jeroenvip]

Bought a studio monitor as programmer, the idiot I was. But to be honest, I can't stand any other monitor any longer. The screen is just too good.

 

[falainber]

Bought a studio monitor as programmer, the idiot I was. But to be honest, I can't stand any other monitor any longer. The screen is just too good.

As a programmer, I can't understant how anyone can live with a monitor at least 38" big.

 

[Doomtomb]

Pro Max Diplay XDR ultra widescreen

 

[entropys]

Why would a ProMotion/MiniLED Studio Display be released *so soon* after the previous one?

the current models aren’t meeting sales expectations?

 

[neo_cs193p]

I would love a 22" 4K, but it looks like I might be the only one. I'd settle for 24", but I hate larger displays. Too much artificial light in my face.

 

[Chazak]

It could be a long wait and I don't think they will make a monitor for the non-professional market. Knowing Apple, in development could mean two years or more.

 

[Chazak]

Personally, I think Apple is not trying to chase display marketshare. I believe we got the Studio Display because Apple has decided that the Mac Studio is the formal replacement for the iMac 5K and therefore needed to offer an external version of the iMac 5K's display to be paired with a Mac Studio.

And as much as the forum laughs at the $5000+ price of the Pro Display XDR, it seems to have sold enough units to justify a new model. And if they offer a smaller (27" @ 5K) model at a lower price (~$3000), that might prove even more popular.

No question about it, no way they would be chasing market share.

 

[SAIRUS]

As a programmer, I can't understant how anyone can live with a monitor at least 38" big.

Hmm depends on your code structure and preferences for font size.

That said we can agree that coding in anything other than dark mode is a crime against the senior developer? 😄

I like to do lots of classes btw and a bit of a dependency injection nut so I can more maintainable code (yes a bit of an oxymoron, but I’m a TDD nut).

 

[PauloSera]

Please make one even more reasonably priced.

To be honest I'm not even bothered by the price of the Studio Display. What killed it for me was the skus. Having 3 different skus for fixed stand non-removable stand, adjustable non-removable stand, and no stand all but with VESA mounts...is a disgrace.

There is no reason at all that Apple could not have made 1 sku that comes with an adjustable stand, that is removable, from the VESA mount. And just charge $1599 for that. It would have been reasonable. But Apple is against being reasonable. So, I'm against buying their unreasonably priced/configured crap.

 

[chrono1081]

Something like that:

I ADORED this design and still have two of those monitors 12 years later and they work perfectly fine. Obviously MagSafe doesn't work on them and mini display port has to go through an adapter these days but if they made a studio display where you could get an optional cable like this for modern machines I'd be all over it.

 

[fakestrawberryflavor]

If they made the Pro Display XDR 16:10 instead of 16:9, and gave me ProMotion, I would be all in on that for 5-6K USD. Technically Do-able too with TB5 and/or Display Port 2.0+

 

[freedomlinux]

[...] at 7K in either 32" or 36" form with ProMotion and Mini-LED per rumors that 9to5Mac dropped in March 2022.

The second will be 27" and 5K and will end up being the ProMotion Mini-LED display [...]

7K is a bit of a strange resolution, no? One of the common explanations for 5K is that it lets you edit 4K content at 1:1 (plus the Final Cut user interface). So 7K would allow you to edit ... 6K content?

There is relatively little volume and selection of 5K/7K/etc monitors because only Apple users "need" them, making them expensive. Every other OS can tolerate 1440p, 4K, whatever with fractional scaling.

 

[falainber]

Hmm depends on your code structure and preferences for font size.

That said we can agree that coding in anything other than dark mode is a crime against the senior developer? 😄

I like to do lots of classes btw and a bit of a dependency injection nut so I can more maintainable code (yes a bit of an oxymoron, but I’m a TDD nut).

In my work, for anything other than a simple script I may need a lot of windows. Even viewing a simple file comparison in VSCODE is better with a wide monitor. I usually have 50+ tabs (in 6+ windows) in the wen browser (API documentation, etc.). Plus OneNote (for my own notes), e-mail, Teams, a couple of VNC windows for working with Linux (VSCODE may be on Linux in VNC too, but not always). Obviously, a lot depends on your line of work.

 

[SSDGUY]

I bet nothing burger articles like this will look great on the whatever display Apple is probably currently working on, and will announce at a yet to be determined date, most likely.

 

[enc0re]

6K120 is no problem from a technical standpoint. Remember, the current Pro Display came out 3 years ago and uses DisplayPort 1.4.

DisplayPort 2.0 has more than twice the bandwidth. You could run 6K120 off a USB cable.

The only reason Apple Displays use Thunderbolt is for the extra USB ports on the screen, and potentially webcams etc. It has nothing to do with resolution or refresh rate.

 

[Jensend]

7K is a bit of a strange resolution, no? One of the common explanations for 5K is that it lets you edit 4K content at 1:1 (plus the Final Cut user interface). So 7K would allow you to edit ... 6K content?

There is relatively little volume and selection of 5K/7K/etc monitors because only Apple users "need" them, making them expensive. Every other OS can tolerate 1440p, 4K, whatever with fractional scaling.

Yeah, if you’re going to have 7K, might as well have 8K.
But 6K with 200% scaling is already starting to push the boundaries of usefulness for a non-curved screen. If you’re perfectly centered in front of an 8K screen, you basically can’t get close enough to the screen that you can fully resolve the pixels in the corners of the display.

Apple has been very consistent with PPI for desktop monitors, staying in the 100-110 PPI range, then 210-220 PPI for Retina monitors.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I’m not surprised by this and I think it’s a good move. They need to do a better job with displays. The prospect of a living room Apple display (they won’t call it a TV, I suspect) requires that they reestablish their desktop monitor cred IMO.

And while they’re at it they should get back in the router game. It’s kind of absurd that they tout their tightly integrated system… but then make people use third party hardware to tie it all together.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

I'd personally prefer a 7K (6880x2880) ultrawide screen (34 or 35 inch), but 120Hz/ProMotion would definitely be on the requirements list (as would an integrated KVM). Sadly, I see no indication of something like that happening.

Studios will want an 8k as they are already working in 16k videos.

 

[richinaus]

I await the Christmas miracle of more than 1 TB in.

 

[Alexwastaken]

Hopefully, for the new monitors and Pro Display XDR the prices are reasonably lowered.

The prices are more reasonable than peoples expectations. I rather see more value opposed to lower prices. Phone subsidies from carriers and pay later business models have warped reality for some.

 

[cb3]

Please work on GREAT monitors at an affordable prices.

 

[Tyler O'Bannon]

I am genuinely curious as to what models there could be beyond the 27” 5K size and the 32” 6K size.

One thing we have to consider is Thunderbolt 4 and its current abilities and limitations.

I understand multiple models could translate to a 27” standard (like apple studio display) and then one that could be miniLED or OLED etc. and also have higher brightness as a more Pro version of that. Stil 5K resolution, but multiple monitors. And same on larger as well.

Makes you wonder if they’ve got something g big in the works. 8K. 36-40”+. Ultra wide (that would be very interesting to see).

Apples displays are unmatched. They’re fantastic. They’re industry leading.

Now the exciting and painful wait to see what materializes.

 

[Ener Ji]

Why would a ProMotion/MiniLED Studio Display be released *so soon* after the previous one?

Because the first one has been a dud?

It'd be nice, but Apple hasn't been in that rapid revision operating mode for at least a decade, and I dunno if it'd even be possible with the supply chain issues for them to iterate a better revision and get it out in a year or 18 months. Let alone make it cheaper.

I figure it makes much more sense to rev the XDR with ProMotion.

I agree that an XDR refresh is probably more likely, but I hope a Studio refresh is right behind it.

 

[jtdx99]

If only the Studio Display had a high refresh rate and 30% price cut.