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My man, thou assumeth too much - where did I say everyone (or anyone) should be a blind fan boy here? (hint: nowhere. You made that up.)

Rather, my comment was a reaction to the fact that I read through over 100 comments on this post, and I found one positive one (and even that was praising the Snow Leopard release from over 10 years ago).

Every other comment is critical.

Now, some of those critical comments are constructive and useful.

But many of them are just cynical.

Hence my reaction - there is no "iOS gets some right, some wrong" here.
IOS is a very mature system . It is very good, but people will take this for granted (human nature).

There is simply no significant update to expect ( the AI revolution will force drastic changes , but mikely next year).

So for now it will be people comparing about bugs, and small quality of life annoyances.
 
There are some bugs, but not many. I use both of these operating systems every day and it has been a fine experience. Name one mass produced piece of software out there without bugs.
What OS are you talking about? Ventura? The most buggy macOS release ever?

Exchange Sync broke (while is was working before for many years) and still isn't fixed at 100% (but useable for me, again). Samba file share broke (this is fixed). Just to name two very annoying and major bugs. But just search the internet about Ventura bugs.

If you're only surfing the web - there might not as many bugs you can see. And yes, Apple did improve Safari a little bit after it was called the new IE6 and I don't see that many rendering errors it showed before.

I think that everybody I know, can tell you a story about Ventura.
 
What OS are you talking about? Ventura? The most buggy macOS release ever?

Exchange Sync broke (while is was working before for many years) and still isn't fixed at 100% (but useable for me, again). Samba file share broke (this is fixed). Just to name two very annoying and major bugs. But just search the internet about Ventura bugs.

If you're only surfing the web - there might not as many bugs you can see. And yes, Apple did improve Safari a little bit after it was called the new IE6 and I don't see that many rendering errors it showed before.

I think that everybody I know, can tell you a story about Ventura.
You do realize that this thread is about IOS 17?
 
I can’t really tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. Text recognition is a technology from the ‘90, calling it ‘innovation’ would be a wild statement. What’s next? Introducing CRT screens?
How is done id sometimes the innovation. This features is a game changer since it is happening in real time and super useful to the average user or the professional. I just put there two examples but you can read by yourself how many specifics, under the hood or make my life easier new features are put in new Ones in general. But if you have this attitude, I suppose your replies will be similar to this one.
 
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But if you have this attitude, I suppose your replies will be similar to this one.
Yep. It'd be the same thing as if flying cars actually became a thing and people said it isn't innovation since cars have existed for many years. Ignoring the clear differences to try and never be wrong.
 
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You do realize that this thread is about IOS 17?
This thread is about turning iOS17 into a feature and bug hell again. And basically every Apple OS is a buggy mess - not to mention Apple introduced monitorOS so it can produce and ship new bugs.

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/16/ios-16-bugs-after-launch/

I posted my opinion: Stick to the plan to make iOS17 a bugfixing, stability and performance release. This includes macOS14 as well.
 
That might be the case but I think it should be more of design interfaces more aligned to the AR/VR headset to have a common design language.
 
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My man, thou assumeth too much - where did I say everyone (or anyone) should be a blind fan boy here? (hint: nowhere. You made that up.)

Rather, my comment was a reaction to the fact that I read through over 100 comments on this post, and I found one positive one (and even that was praising the Snow Leopard release from over 10 years ago).

Every other comment is critical.

Now, some of those critical comments are constructive and useful.

But many of them are just cynical.

Hence my reaction - there is no "iOS gets some right, some wrong" here.
Agreed, way more negative takes and outrage than positive. And even when Apple hands some people features they’ve been asking for like external monitor support with iPad Stage Manager, there’s always a flood of outrage that “it’s not done right” or etc etc. At least there are a decent number of people who talk about it positively, but you should see Reddit. Someone says something positive about their new setup with Stage Manager on iPadOS 16, and tons of people bomb the comments to tell them how wrong they are for liking it, and that’s it’s really just trash. Too much of that around lately I think.
 
This thread is about turning iOS17 into a feature and bug hell again. And basically every Apple OS is a buggy mess - not to mention Apple introduced monitorOS so it can produce and ship new bugs.
That’s only your interpretation of every new major release you know. Grumman never implied that. Previously there was this conjecture too many resources were being dragged away to support the misguided notion that realityOs with no content needed a rescue. Also there are no facts involved yet to form any speculation about the topic. We all know as much as the other guy. ;)
 
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I just want to be able to edit my photos / videos by file size to see which of the 50,000 items I could lose to free up some space…. Is that so much to ask 😂
 
I just want to be able to edit my photos / videos by file size to see which of the 50,000 items I could lose to free up some space…. Is that so much to ask 😂

There is an app that does that but you'd have to pay. Just an option if you weren't aware.

There are probably other apps also.
 
Just because they aren't focusing ONLY on bugs, doesn't mean they won't focus AT ALL on bugs. It isn't an all or nothing thing.
the “all or nothing thing” seems like the trajectory :apple: has been on for a solid…nine years now. (just going all the way back to iOS 7 for the fun of it)

this isn’t even touching on iPadOS. that OS is inherently broken. getting the M2 MBP and banishing my iPad Pro to the dark realm (save for the occasional useful use-case for Apple Pencil) was one of my best Apple-related days of recent time.

(not like even macOS is much to speak of these days. yeah, it’s still better than Windows, but good lord…after going a solid five years not using a Mac on a daily basis, it’s stunning to me how many little changes they’ve made that completely f— with a longtime power user’s flow. first one that comes to mind: am I crazy, or did I *not* have to specifically Command-click in order to move multiple things around before? did it not used to be as simple as Shift-selecting/Command-selecting/dragging across items in Finder or on desktop [whatever’s easiest for the use case] and moving them, without holding down an extra button for no reason? someone please tell me if there’s a fix for this. the new System Prefs are far too iOS for my liking and I’ve barely bothered touching them.)
 
  • More interactive notifications
  • More interactive widgets
  • Toggle for default alpha sort rather than app library
  • Ability to label app categories for app library​
  • Ability to rename apps
  • Hide widget names
  • Split screen apps
  • Split screen carplay
  • Replace long press on icon to a swipe/flick gesture
  • Toggle to turn off or speed up FaceID animations
  • Turn off the waveform animation in dynamic island
  • Dynamic island press action is defaulted to the long-press action
  • Bring Dark Sky UI to the weather app
  • Ability to hide apps
well at the very least, you can technically hide apps…they just go into the App Library 🤪😂
 
What are the “most requested features”?, where do Apple gets that info from?. From the loudest voices who represent a minority?.
How about a WORKING DIAL PAD??
And a MODERN KEYBOARD and EDITING FEATURE?. Nowadays I envy Android users for that. Try a Huawei phone to edit text. It is Years ahead from Apple.
 
And a super smart way and “Apple praised way” to solve the Apple induced NEW problem of muting the iPhone with a button instead of the no-fuss switch. How many computing cycles and lines of code have to be developed and wasted just because “we want to break and fix something to show we are working and innovators ” strategy?
 
It really seems like the Apple and the tech industry has hit a wall. We have devices that are more powerful than needed, and can do so many things that we don’t even have some must-have or highly desired capability that we can look forward to. Some of that may simply be we all don’t know what we’re missing until someone shows us, but like others have commented, there are plenty of iterative fixes Apple should address. One thing that annoys me on a daily basis is how I’ll check my phone for emails, reading them as they come in and I’ll get notifications of emails I’ve already read pop up. That’s sloppy that iOS can’t recognize that I’m in Mail and don’t need Mail notifications.
LOL the same that annoys me about my Z Flip 4. And what's more annoying is it only seems to notify about every email while in the app.
 
Honestly I think the new lock screen and new Focus thingy is terrible. Before it was simple to change your background picture, now each time you do it it removes your widgets and creates a brand new lock screen, or you have to go back to another lock screen and "edit" it, but you can only do that from the lock screen but you can't do it because it's locked, and if you unlock it you are brought to the home screen... it's a mess.

Focus also sucks. Now your "sleep" schedule is tied to the "sleep" focus but every other focus can be edited directly except for Sleep. And which one will be displayed in Control Center is random and you can never trust this whole mess because it's too complicated for something as simple as "make my phone silent".

iOS is starting to get feature bloat. Instead, they should fix autocorrect and finally make the keyboard useable so that you're not forced to use buggy 3rd party keyboards that steal your data and crash every 2 sentences.
 
I think it’s hilarious that the same people who say “if it’s broke, don’t fix it” when it comes to the mute switch are now saying the exact opposite when it comes to the… checks notes… app icons?
“Just change them,” they say. “It doesn’t matter that billions, literally billions of people are used to them and know what they are, change them anyway.”
 
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