That's why a hybrid UI is the key. iPad OS can already use a keyboard and mouse/touchpad. iPad OS has already evolved beyond just touch. The perfect OS will let you use either according to your needs and use case.
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Gurman: iPad Pro With 'M2' Chip and MagSafe Charging Likely to Launch in Fall 2022
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Besides that, I think the „Pro“ moniker is misplaced outside of the Mac world. What makes AirPods Pro, iPhone Pro, iPad Pro pro?
You are right. To Apple it is just the hardware that makes it "Pro" while they ignore the OS that would truly allow the Pro hardware to perform and live up to its Pro moniker.
Nah, what I mean is, there are product categories where a Pro moniker makes 0 sense. It‘s the same as Palomino offering a Pro pencil.
My m1 11 and 12.9" both are so fast. As our the 2020 ones I passed down to my wife and kids. I can't imagine it being any faster than it is now. I may sit this year out. I say that now.. We will see lol.
You’re missing the point, it’s not just about those three programs. Plenty of programs operate that way.
Are you as your signature says, a psychiatrist that loves tech? If so, an iPad Pro should be perfect for you. Taking notes, managing case files, research, time management, file management, (creating, editing, and annotating documents and pdf's), printing, emails, texts, patient and colleague communication, video meetings and appointments, etc. These are all things that the iPP can handle easily.
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I wonder if Office works any better on iPads yet. One deal killer for me as a non-tech professional was that using Excel sucked on the iPad. However, supposedly Excel has full mouse support now, so maybe that's changed. The other deal killer though was that my Citrix VPN software connecting to Windows hosts didn't work right with mice. Maybe that's been fixed too though.
I use Office 365 daily, mainly for Word but I keep a few spreadsheets also. I use a mouse or the trackpad on my Logitech Combo Touch and either work just as well. MS has really upped the ante for iPadOS.
Here are a couple videos from one of my favorite tech YouTubers about office 365 and Excel for iPadOS.
If the trend of attachable peripherals continues, this could be solved by going a similar route that the Surface went, but iPadOS itself is still too locked down for that. You can't really do much software development on iPadOS, as XCode isn't supported and you can't install applications outside of the app-store. Neither are applications like Logic Pro X supported. M1 iPads could definitely handle the computational workload, but iPadOS doesn't support them.
Background applications are another problem. Apps are explicitly permitted to perform certain tasks (like handle bluetooth, operate cameras for meetings, or play audio) in the background, but everything else gets frozen. You couldn't do video rendering in the background, and Spotify can't even download songs in the background. System monitors only work when they're physically on the screen, and virtual machines aren't supported either.
It's a fundamentally different ethos from the MacOS ecosystem, and that's probably the biggest thing holding it back from becoming a true Mac replacement. Apple could fix this on these new iPads (they are powerful enough to handle it), but I think Apple probably fears that this might cannibalize the Mac market a bit. They seem to be designing iPadOS to be more similar to iOS than to MacOS at this point (which is a harder problem to work around than just attaching a keyboard and a mouse).
Wholeheartedly agree.
I do not want to buy a Surface Pro, but may do so if Apple doesn't make it's Pro offerings more robust.
They certainly have that in development. It’s just not perfected yet. And you know what a company that has a 38% global market share of a product doesn’t do? Release something that doesn’t meet their standards.
As a general statement to everyone so frustrated that iPadOS is holding back the hardware: until a competitor forces their hand, Apple is going to take its sweet time to make any big changes. It’s way too big of a risk otherwise. Consumers are speaking with their dollars, and they are saying “we like what the iPad is today”.
In 2011, Apple cracked this product segment wide open (admittedly not inventing it, which is fine) and grabbed 60%+ market share. Four years later, it dipped to its lowest: 20%. Since then, it’s been a rather steady climb up to nearly 40%. Nobody with a lick of business sense would advise a huge shake up at this time. The competitors had their shot - mostly won shares by undercutting price - and consumers learned over the years that while the initial cost of an iPad is quite a bit higher than the competition’s, they deliver a better experience over an enormously longer life span, effective reducing the cost of ownership to be below the competition’s.
I know most of us in forums such as these get frustrated because Apple’s own marketing seems to be going against everything I just stated. Replacing your laptop with an iPad?? “Impossible!!” we all bellow and proceed to list the myriad reasons why an iPad could never do such a thing. But that message isn’t directed at us! It’s for people that are spending a few hundred dollars on their chrome books or similarly spec’ed netbooks. That’s who Apple wants to convert to using an iPad, and for many chrome book users an iPad would be a fine replacement. But the majority of us that are probably buying MBP’s? Of course Apple isn’t trying to get us to switch to iPad, there’s zero incentive for them to do so!
End rant.
Ps, I can’t wait for the M1 iPP discounts.
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Agreed, in the other product lines “Pro” = “Early Adopter” and are priced accordingly. Apple wed itself to the moniker early on and felt naming convention consistency was more valuable than truly honoring the definition of the word. While slightly annoying, there are only so many options.
Simple? I have to Google stupid gestures and features for basic things. It's feature nerfed and clunky. An unholy combination.
There are some folks that will never “get” touch. Which is fine, because a lot of Apple II users never “got” an interface that wasn’t command line that required a mouse to use. Those raised with touch interfaces all around them? They’re the ones that will be buying computers for the next 50 years or so, so those are the folks that Apple needs to make products for.
There were several years there where, side by side, the Apple II was seen as the “professional” computer required to get “real work” done. Things change.
There were several years there where, side by side, the Apple II was seen as the “professional” computer required to get “real work” done. Things change.
The same way you had to learn using a mouse when you started using PCs with graphical UIs.
1000% agreed.
While we may struggle with productivity on touch, we live in a world where a huge % of children are given a touch-input device at a far younger age than we ever tinkered around on a mouse and keyboard.
They will quite literally have an innate preference for touch-input that will have existed before their long-term memory developed. They will not remember a “them” that didn’t interact with devices via touch.
Apple cannot neglect this generation of consumers that they nearly single-handedly created.
Surface Pros are not bad machines at all. I myself own two of them. I am just not fond of the Windows implementation for tablets compared to iPadOS. Yes, I know it's full Windows which I have no problem with but it's just nowhere as smooth as iPadOS which is unfortunately lacking for a lot of business professionals and power users.
At 61 years old, I took the time to learn iPadOS and all it's "clunky" gestures. In fact, I now run both my Real Estate businesses with my M1 iPP 11. I found out that I like it as well if not better than the Windows OS's and Mac OS's I have been using for 40 years. As some others have said, all OS's change over the years and have learning curves as they change. Going from command line and DOS to a GUI was a major change for a lot of us. Going from MacOS or Windows to iPadOS is similar but less intense. Give it some time and effort. You may very well find that you love it, just like this old guy and many others like me.
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Until, of course, AR / VR goes mainstream and then you'll have a whole generation of users raised on spatial computing and to them touch will be yesterday's tech @Unregistered 4U
Am I the only one who thinks it's a huge mistake to launch M2 so close to finishing the M1 line? Could the iPad Pro instead ship with the M1 Pro?