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I’m waiting for the OLED MacBook Pro’s, if the iPad Pro’s can get beautiful tandem OLED’s so can the MacBook Pro’s.

I think end of 2025 or beginning of 2026 we’ll get a redesign of the MacBook Pro 💻 The current design is too thick
 
You don’t have to scroll down a lot in the homepage to find an article where people complain that the iPhone doesn’t need yearly upgrade. Here you find people complaining that the Mac Studio doesn’t receive yearly upgrades. And I bet some of them do both at the same time :)

If I have to choose, it’s better to have yearly upgrades. But I bet the Mac Mini/Studio don’t even reach 1M units.
 
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While not great news, the Mac doesn’t just need new chips, there are other technologies the Mac can benefit from such as WiFi 7, Thunderbolt 5, OLED, Face ID and cellular (laptops). The Studio Display needs 120hz (likely won’t happen until Thunderbolt 5) and either mini-LED or OLED.

The M4 series of chips is will come to Mac Studio and Mac Pro once the rollout is complete. It is foolish that the base Mac Studio does not have the M3 Max in it since that chip does in fact exist.
Yields on M3* on the transitional process node their on are terrible, likely why the ipads jumped to M4, so I would expect they’re limiting the usage of M3* socs as much as possible, M4 is on a cheaper, better yield, node at TSMC so jumping to that from M2 for lower volume products makes sense
 
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I call BS on this. They’ve literally just released M4 - how are they going to explain updating their laptops but not the desktops?
Not their desktops??? The article notes that the iMac and Mac Mini will be updated this year. All of those models are desktops.
They sell more, yes, but is it any wonder if they go and do stupid moves like this?
What "stupid move" is that? You said you called BS on the claim that Apple wasn't updating the Mac Pro and Mac Studio until mid-2025. If they update those top-end desktops this year, there will be no "stupid move".

Did you forget what you said in the first sentence of your message? I call BS -- on your silly comment.
 
Could be a long wait

iPad features heading over to MacBooks is not at all guaranteed ... not even close
Not guaranteed, but dual-stack OLED MacBook are highly likely. IMO it's not so much a matter of if, but when. The previous predictions were 2026 for the MacBook Pros (not Airs).
 
Not guaranteed, but dual-stack OLED MacBook are highly likely. IMO it's not so much a matter of if, but when. The previous predictions were 2026 for the MacBook Pros (not Airs).

Maybe?
Where are Cellular MacBooks?

For all we know, Apple may never deem OLED fit for Mac usage

(They'd be wrong .. but they are wrong a lot --- looking at macOS on my OLED TV as I type this :))
 
Here you find people complaining that the Mac Studio doesn’t receive yearly upgrades.
Not yearly, chiply. The thinking is the top of the line machine should always have the top of the line CPU. Instead Apple put the M4 into a tablet best used to watch videos, read e-books, and check on email. I admit to being puzzled by this decision as well.
 
What signs would those be? Just the M4 iPad Pro release? Cuz I haven't seen any other evidence.

BTW, essentially Gurman is repeating exactly what he said in April. He had already predicted a mid 2025 Mac Studio / Mac Pro release, and he hasn't changed that prediction, despite the interim release of the M4 iPad Pro.
He also repeatedly stated that the iPad Pro would get an M3 processor until he obviously found out that @Jamie I , through inciteful investigation, discovered it will have an M4 chip, well before anyone else.
 
Could be a long wait

iPad features heading over to MacBooks is not at all guaranteed ... not even close
I think you mean MacBook Pro 💻 features headed over to iPad are not at all guaranteed.

MacBook Pro’s are guaranteed to get OLED screens within the next 3 years and maybe a thinner re-design, probably 2026 M5 chip variant for the re design
 
The predicted launch of Windows Qualcomm ARM based machines that will truly compete with Apple M series
That official launch is happening tomorrow, May 20th. MS is holding an event that day to kick off their Build conference and discuss their Windows / AI strategy. Qualcomm and other hardware partners will be there to show off products that will be released using Qualcomm's new processors.
 
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I think you mean MacBook Pro 💻 features headed over to iPad are not at all guaranteed.

MacBook Pro’s are guaranteed to get OLED screens within the next 3 years and maybe a thinner re-design, probably 2026 M5 chip variant for the re design

No - I don't mean that at all
You have it backwards

iPhone/iPad are constantly on the leading edge of hardware and features in Apple land (relative to Macs)
 
This makes no sense to me. If Apple were to be dumb enough to let the Studio and Pro become stale while the Windows side is close to having their M1 moment, then they deserve revenue loss for becoming complacent.
 
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Maybe Apple is going to step on the accelerator and leave the competition behind. Like the video Musk released of a drag race between the Ford F-150 pickup and the Tesla pickup, and the Tesla won, and oh by the way the Tesla was towing another F-150.
Might want to pick another example. Tesla isn’t exactly what I would call “stable” right now.
 
Too bad, was looking to update to a Studio when Apple add the M3/M4. Might be a good time to go Windows so I can use NVIDIA. Keep the Mac for old Mac stuff.
There was a time after the trash can shipped where I helped some folks migrate their work from Apple systems. My thinking at the time was that if the trash can was not what they liked, it’s unlikely that Apple was going to ever make a system that they actually “liked” to use ever again. There was always the chance that Apple MIGHT have swung back in the other direction (and I would have had to help them migrate back), so I was very interested to see what the next Mac Pro looked like.

I was still connected with a few of them when Apple had that Mac Pro event, and, thankfully (for me at least) no one regretted the work they’d put in switching. They didn’t say it, but I know some of their lack of regret was because “Apple did a thing” and they had no emotional connection to the result at all! They still remember all their good Mac times, but now they upgrade what they want when they want (limited only to their budget/skill/time constraints).
 
That makes very little sense for a couple of reasons:
- Apple wants to get rid of the M3 series as fast as possible
- Apple does not introduce older chip series when new is already on the market
- Apple almost never makes price cuts without introducing a newer model
The only example I seem to remember was the 3rd gen Apple TV getting a price reduction from $99 to $69, when the HBONow service was announced (initially as an Apple TV exclusive, I might add).

Later that fall, they announced the new model with the Siri Remote and tvOS, etc.
 
I doubt they sell enough Mac Studios to make updating more frequently worthwhile. I suspect they've probably yet to reach triple figures with the Mac Pro.
They would sell more if they didn’t let them languish. This has been a constant problem with Apple’s pro machines and that (along with software issues like the Final Cut X disaster) has lost them a lot of customers

If they want to gain those customers back, they have to show that they actually care and support those machines. And they aren’t doing that

I don’t see any valid reason not to give them the latest processors and some RAM upgrades every year
 
There are several websites that do. AppleTrack is one of them. Based on their analysis Guraman is correct 86.5% of the time:

AppleTrack doesn’t do it anymore, apparently, not since June 26, 2022.
 
They would sell more if they didn’t let them languish. This has been a constant problem with Apple’s pro machines and that (along with software issues like the Final Cut X disaster) has lost them a lot of customers

I think they might be screwed with a lot of Pro customers
After the 2013 run up to the "roundtable" ... and now doing the same "letting things languish" BS all over again

Apple can't be trusted for Pro support
They are "all in" ... and then they aren't ...

The ecosystem value is simply not there for Pro users to justify the prices Apple charges and then the support and update schedules they offer (or don't).
 
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