M2 Pro and M2 Max in the MacBook Pro are likely Q4/2023 parts giving Apple a two year window of sales for each processor generation within each product line. Meaning the Mac Studio will be upgraded in Q1/2024 with M2 Max and M2 Ultra, assuming Apple follows the same course as the M1. This makes sense and allows apple to keep upgrades rolling without pushing out SoCs too fast.
Why not? This discussion is not about Mac Studio evolution; M1 was announced in 2020, M1 Pro and M1 Max have been in MBPs since 2021. Normal progression would be low end M2 in boxes like the MB Air mid-2022 and then M2 Pro and M2 Max MBPs in the late fall 2022.
The Ultra is never going to fit into a Mac Book Pro chassis or into the thermal envelope of that chassis. Apple is selling every M1 Pro and M1 Max MBP it makes, why would they update it this year? It’s still faster than almost all of its competition and people rave about it now. Q4 of next year is the earliest you’ll see an M2 Pro or M2 Max released. M2 MBA is definitely not coming until late Q3 or Q4 of this year.
IMHO I think its tough to think of Apple in the same light has other semiconductor manufacturers that service the Windows side of computers trying to have some reoccurring Moores Law applied to their ARM devices. It's a lot more like they're pioneering their own SoC's at their own pace.
CPUs have been overpowered for years now. However, architecture and software do keep evolving to utilize the very latest strongest chips; and chip design engineers refine their designs. Remember Core Duo then Core 2 Duo? The second generation of the M Series will likely be significantly better polished than first generation M1.
Dude, M1 was late 2020. M1 Pro and Max late 2021.
Its very dependent on maintaining similar energy usage for given CPU/GPU capabilities, not so much roll the model numbers. Apple has tethered themselves to be a unique computer supplier rather than the competition. We have to be watching how TSMC does with commercializing the 3 nm node.
I just don't think the A14, A15, A16 evolution is going to work the same pace for Macs as it does with iPhones/iPads.
9to5mac is saying the next Mac mini will have M2 / M2 Pro SKU's
9to5mac.com
Me too, and I hope it comes with a redesign and a smaller, lighter body. You know, just like the renders we’ve been seeing, with MagSafe and all.
The lowest end Intel 13” MBP had the same chip and same ports as the Intel Air. This M1 13” MBP is essentially an update to that model with just the addition of the Touch Bar from the higher end MBP.
Early rumors put it in the second half of 2022.
2020 has been the longest year I can remember, it's looking like it might be ending here soon. ?
M2 Pro would a good addition, but that would be a long ways off. Thus I would prefer M1 Pro, in 2022.9to5mac is saying the next Mac mini will have M2 / M2 Pro SKU's
Updated Mac mini to have versions with M2 and M2 Pro chip - 9to5Mac
9to5Mac has learned from sources that Apple is developing two new versions of it: one with M2 and one with the M2 Pro chip.
No, this is incorrect. The Air used much slower (and lower power) CPUs.
One can also reflect on 2021 being forever from the standpoint of the first M1 Computers announced November 10 2020, and finally the MBP laptops using more powerful M1 Pro/Max announced Oct 18 2021. Comparably we didn't have to wait that long for the M1 Ultra which something Apple didn't want to show us quit yet last Oct.
A lot of people keep tossing around the M2 term as a solution, instead of just hoping Apple starts to supply us with more Macs using M1 Pro and M1 Max. Daresay a Mac mini with a M1 Pro with 32 GB RAM would sell very well.
True, they were not exactly the same, but both were much lower performance than the rest of the MBP line at the time.
The rumored M2 is expected to have the same number of CPU cores as the M1. It is expected to use cores that are a little faster and more power efficient than the M1, as well. Not a lot of madness there.
