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Gurman: Redesigned MacBook Air Delayed to Second Half of 2022, No New High-End MacBook Pro Likely Until Next Year

James Godfrey said:
That’s weird considering Kuo believes the new MacBook Air is coming with an M1 again… this makes me think that maybe Apple have the new Air ready to go, but are contemplating sticking an M1 in it to get it out the door sooner rather than later.

Tbh, for my use case I would 100% take the new redesign with M1 as it’s more than enough for me.

At this point all these leakers and analysts are guessing… Gurman is just thinking what is most likely to happen here and covering up his mid-2022 prediction with a ‘delay’ so therefore he isn’t technically wrong.
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Yep, can't see them prioritising the M2 chip before getting all the M1/Pro/Max/Ultra/Extreme variants out first.

From a pure profits point of view, releasing a redesigned M1 MBA w M1 iMac styling first, and then later with M2 and minor upgrades, is much more Apple
 
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EugW said:
I always thought it was odd that the MacBook Air got the same SoC as the MacBook Pro 13" at the same time.
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A bit. But compare to the iPad Air/Pro, Apple put M1 in both. And iPhone vs Pro vs SE all have the same A-series chips. Apple also sees Pro as upgraded screen, audio, etc, not just chip spec. So in that context, both of 13" M1 MBA and MBP make sense.

I suspect the new MBA will have styling of the M1 iMac 24", whilst the new 13" MBP will be styled similar to the 14/16" MBP's, with better screen/audio, upgraded cooling design with 14/16" style fan, heat sinks, heat pipe, thicker body etc, which will allow the M1 to run at sustained full power without throttling (which the MBA does). I think it could sell well. There will be plenty of buyers happy with 13", and with the power of the M1 chip, but who would love the mini-LED XDR screen, and the awesome pro audio, not to mention the beautiful and professional looking Space Grey, plus potentially the extra ports, and ahem, removed Touch Bar.

Exciting times.

Personally, I am not far from pulling the trigger on a new 16" M1 Pro 32GB/2TB MBP, and retiring this 2015 15" 16GB/1TB rMBP to being my backup machine, especially with Windows VM/Bootcamp ability (and I'm sure my son will quite possibly borrow my old one to play games on, since his MBA is somewhat limited in comparison, especially as my 2015 has a discrete GPU in it).
 
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Realityck said:
I very much doubt it would be as expensive as Mac Studio. As a comparison the 14" MBP with 8/14 M1 Pro goes for $1999, and that encompasses a lot more than what the Mac mini consists of. So no mini-LED display, keyboard, 6 way speakers. Also add the part mentioned above with M1 Pro being that much cheaper then a M1 Max. Could sell for $1399.

Dare I say this comparison to Mac Studio is rather a excuse to not create consumer friendly Mac solutions?
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The cost of the MBP is irrelevant because it’s completely different from the Studio. But looking at the MBP upgrades, the 16/512 M1-Pro Studio would cost $800 less at $1200. I’m assuming Apple would make the M1-Pro Studio be 32/512 so that’s $400 less at $1600.
 
sideshowuniqueuser said:
Yep, can't see them prioritising the M2 chip before getting all the M1/Pro/Max/Ultra/Extreme variants out first.

From a pure profits point of view, releasing a redesigned M1 MBA w M1 iMac styling first, and then later with M2 and minor upgrades, is much more Apple
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Yeah that’s what I believe, it would also make sense for them to release them between now and WWDC, as they will sell like hot cakes for the start of the new school year, releasing them in October/November has missed the boat a bit really, your pretty much relying on the holiday season sales at that point, however, the majority in the market for one would have likely already got their laptops at that point too.
 
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A bit. But compare to the iPad Air/Pro, Apple put M1 in both. And iPhone vs Pro vs SE all have the same A-series chips. Apple also sees Pro as upgraded screen, audio, etc.
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That's a very different scenario. The iPad Air got M1, but the iPad Pro with M1 came out a year earlier (April 2021).

I fully expect the MacBook Air to get M2, but it would make sense from a market segmentation point of view if that M2 MacBook Air came out a year after the MacBook Pro gets M2. I'm not saying that's definitely what's going to happen, but I am saying it makes perfect sense from Apple's model lines.

BTW, rumour has it that the iPhone 14 won't get A16. The rumour is that only iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max would get A16. Take that rumour as you will.
 
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EugW said:
That's a very different scenario. The iPad Air got M1, but the iPad Pro with M1 came out a year earlier (April 2021).

I fully expect the MacBook Air to get M2, but it would make sense from a market segmentation point of view if that M2 MacBook Air came out a year after the MacBook Pro gets M2. I'm not saying that's definitely what's going to happen, but I am saying it makes perfect sense from Apple's model lines.

BTW, rumour has it that the iPhone 14 won't get A16. The rumour is that only iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max would get A16. Take that rumour as you will.
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Good points. Let's see what happens! For me, the only Macs I'm only interested in are the 16" MBP for me, and potentially the MBA for my son, but I love seeing all these other great new Macs come out, even if I'll likely never buy them. It's quite a revolution.
 
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EugW said:
That's a very different scenario. The iPad Air got M1, but the iPad Pro with M1 came out a year earlier (April 2021).

I fully expect the MacBook Air to get M2, but it would make sense from a market segmentation point of view if that M2 MacBook Air came out a year after the MacBook Pro gets M2. I'm not saying that's definitely what's going to happen, but I am saying it makes perfect sense from Apple's model lines.

BTW, rumour has it that the iPhone 14 won't get A16. The rumour is that only iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max would get A16. Take that rumour as you will.
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Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if we get…

M1 Redesigned MBA, Mac Pro and the new display that’s been rumoured between now and WWDC, those three products could easily fill an event of their own IMO…

Then M2 launch in October/November in the entry MBP, iMac 24”, Mac mini and iPad Pro.

Looking at it logically, if they launch M2 in the redesigned MBA and entry MBP at the same time, the entry MBP is yet again going to have nothing going for it other than black bezels and a fan which isn’t needed for the most part, but by giving the MBA M1, then later launching the entry MBP with M2, that is going to give the MBP some edge over the Air.

Question is whether they will give the entry MBP a redesign or not, if they do I suspect it will be a similar chassis to the new Air but with black bezels/keyboard in space grey and silver options only, likely the same IO as well, possibly an extra USB-C port.
 
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James Godfrey said:
Yeah that’s what I believe, it would also make sense for them to release them between now and WWDC, as they will sell like hot cakes for the start of the new school year, releasing them in October/November has missed the boat a bit really, your pretty much relying on the holiday season sales at that point, however, the majority in the market for one would have likely already got their laptops at that point too.
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WWDC would be nice. Not convinced it will happen there, but it would good timing as you say. Typically the Back To School Edu offer (at least in North America) starts in June.

I'm more hopeful for the M1 Pro Mac mini at WWDC, but even better would be both. And iMac M1 Pro/Max while we're at it, too. :p
 
Bug-Creator said:
Sure but apart from the G5 Apple had no input in that naming. Heck these weren't even names as the G stands for generation and thats all they had in common.



Do that and you are designing a new chip. Not much sense in putting an old cores into new chips.
Not much sense in not using the potential marketing hype from making it clear that this chip is indeed a new generation.

But sure they could do what they do with iPhones and iPads and put the old chip into cheaper devices. Hence a M2 MacBook(Air) at 1200$ and a M1 MacBookSE at 900$.
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Apple had full control of marketing with PowerPC. That’s why no other company used G3+ branded processors.
 
I guess they have enough supply of the M1 to continue selling the current (outdated) Air until then, along with the Mac mini.
 
catean said:
I am still waiting for a MacBook with 4G or 5G. Still don't understand why is so complicated for apple to give us this options. Too many SKU's for the mainboard?
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Two reasons

Apple is currently using Qualcomm modems. Qualcomm levies a licensing fee that is proportional to the price of the device. It might not be too bad but it adds up for a Mac. Apple is in the process of building their own modems (based on tech and patents they bought from Intel). I’m sure that, once Apple is ready to launch their own modem, they will start putting it into as many devices as they can.

Mac OS is not currently optimized for a metered Network connection. It expects a full time available, high speed data stream and does not take cost into account. IOS and iPAD OS already do this. There will likely need to be some changes under the hood for Mac OS to account for this.

I suspect once they get past this Apple Silicon transition they will pivot to focus on this kind of enhancement.
 
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Tagbert said:
Two reasons

Apple is currently using Qualcomm modems. Qualcomm levies a licensing fee that is proportional to the price of the device. It might not be too bad but it adds up for a Mac. Apple is in the process of building their own modems (based on tech and patents they bought from Intel). I’m sure that, once Apple is ready to launch their own modem, they will start putting it into as many devices as they can.

Mac OS is not currently optimized for a metered Network connection. It expects a full time available, high speed data stream and does not take cost into account. IOS and iPAD OS already do this. There will likely need to be some changes under the hood for Mac OS to account for this.

I suspect once they get past this Apple Silicon transition they will pivot to focus on this kind of enhancement.
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Note that a long time ago, Apple actually built a 3G MacBook Pro, but never sold it.

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lazyrighteye said:
TiBook era?
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Nah obviously Alu era.

But back to that other topic, if Apple wanted the M1Pro in a desktop they would have done so with the iMac.
Fresh design, plenty users coming from upspecced 21“ or lower end 27“ and no iMacPro in sight to limit the prices.

They didn‘t do it hence I don‘t see them doing for the Mini.
 
smulji said:
Cheating how?
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By not providing requested mid-performance desktop models for consumers…..look at the current AS desktops:
M1 Mac Mini
M1 24” iMac
M1 Max Mac Studio
AS Mac Pro in the future
You can price out a base Mac Studio with Studio Display for $3900 (cost of keyboard/mouse included).
Laptops are much better values comparably. Apple is clearly upselling to more expensive desktops now, if you want something better then M1 based.
 
Seems like the chip shortages have gotten to Apple.
To be honest I was surprised Apple could meet the demand in 2021 anyway.
 
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...Apple realised they can milk the M1 for another year due to stellar reviews and lack of competition.
 
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Here is my prediction:

M2 announced at October 2022 Event along with newly designed M2 MacBook Air and M2 Mac mini.

They will also announce updated iPad Pro’s with M2 along with 11” gaining MiniLED display.

Updated 24” M2 iMac will arrive at Spring 2023 Event.

13” MacBook Pro and Intel Mac mini will be discontinued following the October 2022 Event.

M2 Pro/Max/Ultra along with first Apple Silicon Mac Pro won’t arrive until October 2023 Event. Which will officially mark the end of the Intel transition.
 
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