In a product starting at $3,499 this has to work with no questions.
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Gurman: The virtual keyboard is a wash
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Does eye control have to work on your $3,500 laptop or $20,000 Mac Pro
. This is a new category, and guess what, it works differently.You noticed that, huh? How'd you get to that conclusion? Just out of curiosity 😂 I guess I just don't see at what point not liking something turns into "can't afford it". Impressive gymnastics on that one.
Get ready for this! I didn't even bat an eye at the price. It's a drop in the bucket as far as I'm concerned. Yet I'm still not interested. Price doesn't matter. What DOES matter...is that I have yet to see a compelling use case. I work in healthcare. There is absolutely ZERO chance I'd be allowed to put this thing on at work, even if I were sitting at a desk. And even if I could...it sure as heck wouldn't make any of my desk work easier/more convenient (it would do quite the opposite, in fact).
You’re entitled to your opinion and free to voice it. I appreciate your transparency.
Well that frees up one of the first 500,000. Thank you for your service!
Same as those lauding its certain success without ever having used it.
I guess if you want what looks like a tire on your head...
I can type faster on an iPhone than a real keyboard. I think it’s fantastic . I’ve said that since 2007
"You're just too poor" is definitely the worst fanboy response to criticism. Defend your beloved goggles all you want, but do better than attributing any criticism to class differences.
As I was curious, here is the patent from February 2008: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/72/7d/37/6adfe56344dd77/US20080276196A1.pdf
And a more elaborate one from May 2008: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/54/82/e3/87b54e34bc32e3/US8605008.pdf
Haha glad I could help 😂 Enjoy!
Honestly, my interest in this is more along the lines of "where it could lead EVENTUALLY". If it gets to the point of being no different than a pair of glasses (and if/when it gets to that point, I'm sure there could be some use cases that would be relevant to me)...it would be an instant purchase!
Yeah, those glasses are just a display, and not a great one. All input, power, etc are done elsewhere. From the page you linked:
The AirVision M1 draws power and accepts a display signal through a USB Type-C port cleverly hidden in the frame. A lightweight USB Type-C cable connects the display to your device, and since it’s wrapped in a braided sleeve, it lays down unobtrusively so that you can work without distractions. It connects via USB Type-C, so you’ll have plenty of options for what kind of devices you can connect to the AirVision M1. Any laptop, smartphone, or console that can output a display signal through DisplayPort Alt Mode is fair game, though you’ll need a Windows PC and our app to take advantage of the virtual screen configuration options.
The Asus is just a display with 1080p resolution, way less than the AVP's roughly 3800 x 3000. It allows you to see a PC screen, but there's no interacting with it like there is in the AVP (or any VR headset). If that means it's 1,000,000 more interesting to you that's great, but it seems like a nothingburger as compared to almost any well-made VR headset. It's a different product.
The same with 4K resolution is probably not so far out. (Qualcomm just announced the Snapdragon XR2+ Gen 2 for 4.3K per eye, so I’d expect related products to be forthcoming.) That’s a product I would actually be interested in, with relatively light-weight glasses and no straps and no seals, as a peripheral for any display signal, while still being AR-like “open”.
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The Tech is very clearly not there.
It does work, it’s just not the right input device for long form writing.
I don’t recall any focus on breakthroughs in virtual keyboard haptics being the key points of this device, so why is the text input method of last resort a sticking point for you personally?
I agree that it all sounds a little sketchy. But then this is a rumors site, and the rumors we see here are worth exactly what we're paying for them.
There is one key (sorry) difference between this and the iPhone keyboard, though. Input on the phones is based on touches on a screen - real touches from thumbs/fingers. So the OS knows where you landed and it can consider where you might have meant to land based on characters around it and the word it thinks you're trying to type. With a purely virtual keyboard, though, it's based on cameras inside the headset itself. Depending on how we hold our hands when we virtually type in the air, the backs of our hands could easily block our fingertips from what the cameras are seeing. So it would be like mashing a whole bunch of keys at once on an iPhone - sending a confusing signal to the OS as to which character we meant to touch.
But as you later say, it's not Apple's first rodeo. If I could figure this out, you know they clearly did, a long time ago. So I'm sure there are many changes to the sensing of "key presses" that they've built into this. Probably related to using multiple cameras to see our hand motions from different angles, telling the user to type a certain way so that fingertips can be seen by the cameras, predictive typing that learns from the individual as time goes on, context of what's being typed and a whole bunch of AI, eventually. Also if the virtual keyboard that we'd see is really big, that would force us to type a little slower and more deliberately, because our hands would be making bigger movements, helping overall accuracy.
I guess we'll know more in a few weeks.
1. No one is planning on wearing this outside (except maybe on a plane.)
2). Accept it’s not the same thing as a Mac or iPhone.
3). So don’t get one 😂
Which funnily enough has MORE battery life that an AVP. Also you are ignoring how you can actually get more displays than the AVP. And hey….ASUS is providing TRUE AR?
You do know that Tim Cook was chosen by Steve Jobs, right?
What’s the cost TODAY?
What’s the availability TODAY?
What even is the resolution TODAY?
Nobody knows. It’s not even officially released. Some might call it vapoware.
Me thinks TODAY means some other than what you think it means.
It has zero battery life. No battery in the unit at all. It's entirely powered by the phone or PC that it's attached to via USB-C. If you want to say that's more than what the AVP can do (because you're counting the external device's power source as its battery), the AVP can do the same thing.
It's a different class of device entirely. The ASUS is basically a low-resolution monitor that you wear on your face, tethered to your phone or PC by a cable. It's not a standalone AR/VR device like the AVP and others.
Yikes that’s does clarify your position well. I can imagine it’s difficult to see anything positive through those glasses!
Guys, we have known what the virtual keyboard would look like since June. We have *every text input device option that is available on MacOS* plus a few new ones. I also imagine that we will see alternates via the new app store as we have with ios. Suffice it to say, you will be able to efficiently enter text.
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When the only complaint often voiced it’s too expensive followed by hate rhetoric… well. Hard to avoid wondering what the motivation is.
Wtf are you talking about? This thing hasn’t even been released yetView attachment 2336092
It's obvious: The whole thing is a write off....
But I guess some people just have to hit the wall themselves in order to learn