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Hacker Group Mysteriously Removes Stolen Apple Schematics and Extortion Threat From Ransomware Website

You people with your movie star ideas of apple and Tim Cook are so hilariously off base. The files are gone because apple paid up. Not much more they can do. Nobody had their address, apple didn’t send John wick after them, grow up. This is the real world and third party breaches is where most of this stuff goes down. How do I know? I work in third party risk management. Have done so for 15 years. No fairy tail ending here, children. Someone paid up. Quanta didn’t pay a dime because of indemnification clauses in contracts. Sheesh. It’s like I have to explain to a brick wall.
 
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portland-dude said:
You people with your movie star ideas of apple and Tim Cook are so hilariously off base. The files are gone because apple paid up. Not much more they can do. Nobody had their address, apple didn’t send John wick after them, grow up. This is the real world and third party breaches is where most of this stuff goes down. How do I know? I work in third party risk management. Have done so for 15 years. No fairy tail ending here, children. Someone paid up. Quanta didn’t pay a dime because of indemnification clauses in contracts. Sheesh. It’s like I have to explain to a brick wall.
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Dude, the hackers only wants attention with this operation. They know Apple is not going to pay. And that's why they ask for 50 million. This is just a big promotion for them. They make a lot more money on a smaller scale with not-so-powerful companies. Now everyone talks about them. And deleting the documents, it can appear that Apple has paid. When do not. Apple is not his target at all.
 
portland-dude said:
You people with your movie star ideas of apple and Tim Cook are so hilariously off base. The files are gone because apple paid up. Not much more they can do. Nobody had their address, apple didn’t send John wick after them, grow up. This is the real world and third party breaches is where most of this stuff goes down. How do I know? I work in third party risk management. Have done so for 15 years. No fairy tail ending here, children. Someone paid up. Quanta didn’t pay a dime because of indemnification clauses in contracts. Sheesh. It’s like I have to explain to a brick wall.
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I really don't care where you work or don't work, but there's no way that Apple would have paid a penny. One, because it is illegal. As in criminally illegal. Two, because Apple doesn't want to encourage criminals. Three, because any damage is already done. Whatever was published has been copied. Four, because there isn't really that much damage. There is no way that Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Dell etc. would touch anything that was stolen by criminals with a barge pole. Anyone using any of these materials would be setting themselves up for a major lawsuit, that would cost them a lot more than $50 million.
 
From what I know, Apple has actually engaged in negotiations as the stolen documents may actually give a clue as to who paid for the attack. Apparently, Intel is trying to get their hands on internal documents and is rumored to be the beneficiary of the hack.
 
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From what I know, Apple has actually engaged in negotiations as the stolen documents may actually give a clue as to who paid for the attack. Apparently, Intel is trying to get their hands on internal documents and is rumored to be the beneficiary of the hack.
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TSMC got hit a few years ago and I can believe Intel would have benefited. TSMC definitely paid out that time, even though they denied it of course.

Not only does Apple prefer these materials stay confidential, Quanta feels the same way. Quanta's manufacturing know-how isn't something to be shared with their competitors like Luxshare, Wistron, and Foxconn.
 
kkillam said:
I just think it would be funny if Apple responded with a message that just contained the names and addresses of people involved and they went “oh ****” and took everything down
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Apple froze their Apple IDs rendering all their iPhones, iPads, and Macs useless until the information was removed:eek:
 
portland-dude said:
You people with your movie star ideas of apple and Tim Cook are so hilariously off base. The files are gone because apple paid up. Not much more they can do. Nobody had their address, apple didn’t send John wick after them, grow up. This is the real world and third party breaches is where most of this stuff goes down. How do I know? I work in third party risk management. Have done so for 15 years. No fairy tail ending here, children. Someone paid up. Quanta didn’t pay a dime because of indemnification clauses in contracts. Sheesh. It’s like I have to explain to a brick wall.
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You Apple haters are funny and with your zero clue about what a company with the kind of money that Apple has can do!
When you have access to their kind of cash it gives you access to very dark actors, think Jason Bourne !
Fixed it for you.
 
Pretty simple logic.

If the group was shut down, then why is their dark web site still up?

Let’s not be silly with these comic superhero fantasies. It’s pretty clear who capitulated. You ain’t finding these guys if they’re in Russia.
 
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Looks like Putin’s got pissed off that his hacker boys didn’t get enough money so the government fined Apple $12 million today. All that money will be spent on villas and spas and 💩
 
portland-dude said:
You people with your movie star ideas of apple and Tim Cook are so hilariously off base. The files are gone because apple paid up. Not much more they can do. Nobody had their address, apple didn’t send John wick after them, grow up. This is the real world and third party breaches is where most of this stuff goes down. How do I know? I work in third party risk management. Have done so for 15 years. No fairy tail ending here, children. Someone paid up. Quanta didn’t pay a dime because of indemnification clauses in contracts. Sheesh. It’s like I have to explain to a brick wall.
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Highly doubt anyone paid up. It just sets a very dangerous precedence moving forward if Apple did as everyone will be after their payday by any means necessary. Even forcing employees & especially third-party contractors/vendors to provide data by physical force if they know the money is that easy to come by.
 
I've read that they [REvil] made a discount on ransom for Quanta, $20MM by 7 May. They might've hidden the page to help negations. They also warned Quanta that they'll release "new iPad, new Apple logos" if they fail to respond.
 
shplock said:
You Apple haters are funny and with your zero clue about what a company with the kind of money that Apple has can do!
When you have access to their kind of cash it gives you access to very dark actors, think Jason Bourne !
Fixed it for you.
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Real world situation: Ming-Chi Kuo has been publishing accurate info for the past decade. What has been done?

Unlike on TV, money doesn't buy everything.
 
Ransomeware criminal probably kept his word, looks like there is honour among thieves.
 
"The group actively continues to extort other companies, so what has prompted it to remove all content linked to the Quanta hack remains unknown."

So why can’t these criminals be found and prosecuted? Are you telling me the governments of the world, especially the U.S. are not competent enough to find them?
 
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