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Still is. I'm pricing a hackintosh i7 build with twice the ram as well as faster ram, better video card and a 27" monitor and i'm still $700 cheaper.

Though i'd like to get this new imac and am still considering it, it's the 4850 that's holding me back. At the resolution of of the 27" imac it can barely handle CoD4. I'm still waiting to see some WoW and Sims 3 benchmarks. And i'd like to eventually run Modern Warfare 2 on it.

I find this hard to believe as their are no 27" LED displayes on the market, the closest is a $1,000 sharp led display with only 1080p resolution.
Not to mention the cost of the OS for $160.
So you have $139 to spend on your computer before your are less that $700 cheaper.
 
Macworld confirmed with Apple that it will handle devices such as DVD players too (quirky way to get Blu-ray playback). So, it doesn’t look like it’s confined to DisplayPort only sources. Obviously, you’ll need an adapter.

"In a clever touch, the 27-inch iMac has a new feature that dramatically increases its versatility. Via a series of adapters Apple says will be available shortly, users will be able to attach external display sources, such a DVD players or even other computers, to the iMac’s display. At that point, those sources will take over the iMac’s display, effectively turning it into an external monitor or an HDTV.”

http://www.macworld.com/article/143394/2009/10/imac.html

The big question is how does it work? By the marketing name, “Target Display Mode” it sounds as if it’ll be an EFI feature like “Target Disk Mode.” But no one seems to have answered that yet.

It would awesome if the display just automatically switched over once a cable was plugged into the DisplayPort. Then, we could plug our MacBooks into the iMac if it’s busy and use it as a display or switch over to play a video game or watch TV.

I’m seriously looking at this to replace my 26” HDTV in my bedroom.
Okay, I'm willing to stand down for the time being on my assumption that it won't work with anything other than DisplayPort. But I'd still be very cautious about any statements coming out of Apple about this since video capabilities on recent Mac models have been so poorly understood and explained by first-tier Apple support (like so-called Apple geniuses saying that adapter x will work when it really won't).

The fact that they apparently mentioned the possibility of multiple adapters is a good thing however. What this may mean is that Apple built in support for DVI/HDMI in the new iMac and that this capability wasn't just a quick afterthought. Maybe they learned from the 24" Apple Cinema Display since it can only accept DisplayPort and that's definitely limited its appeal as it can't be used with any of the older, non-DisplayPort Macs. Thing is, though, this capability means extra cost to the design of the display and kind of goes against the purity of signal that DisplayPort is supposed to represent (since DisplayPort advocates state that DisplayPort signals are actually closer to the native inputs required for LCD panel drivers).

Then there is the question of native resolution, since the 27" is 2560 by 1440 pixels and that is well beyond standard HDMI or single-link DVI. Further, I hope these adapters aren't anything like the $100 Mini DisplayPort to dual-link DVI monstrosity that Apple has previously marketed (although to be clear that converts from Mini DisplayPort to DVI output, not DVI to a Mini DisplayPort input).
 
Macworld confirmed with Apple that it will handle devices such as DVD players too (quirky way to get Blu-ray playback). So, it doesn’t look like it’s confined to DisplayPort only sources. Obviously, you’ll need an adapter.

"In a clever touch, the 27-inch iMac has a new feature that dramatically increases its versatility. Via a series of adapters Apple says will be available shortly, users will be able to attach external display sources, such a DVD players or even other computers, to the iMac’s display. At that point, those sources will take over the iMac’s display, effectively turning it into an external monitor or an HDTV.”

http://www.macworld.com/article/143394/2009/10/imac.html

The big question is how does it work? By the marketing name, “Target Display Mode” it sounds as if it’ll be an EFI feature like “Target Disk Mode.” But no one seems to have answered that yet.

It would awesome if the display just automatically switched over once a cable was plugged into the DisplayPort. Then, we could plug our MacBooks into the iMac if it’s busy and use it as a display or switch over to play a video game or watch TV.

I’m seriously looking at this to replace my 26” HDTV in my bedroom.

The question that I have is:
Does it still work if the logic-board inside the iMac is switched of or defective, i.e. is it truly a 'Monitor-Mode'?

A lot of people claim that this extends the useful lifespan of the iMac screen, but if it requires some kind of cooperation from the rest of the electronics, this would not be the case...
 
They surely won't. When has any Mac model had a price drop a couple of months after release? Or, in fact, ever?

--Eric

The original MacBook Pro got a significant price drop when it was only a few months old... But it's pretty rare for Apple to drop prices at all, and that's the only case I can think of where there was a price drop on a newish Mac model.
 
Dissapointed with iMac configurations

It was dissapointing to see that Apple did not included the the ATI Radeon HD 5850 in its top of the line build. The card is roughly the same size ~9.6" and could have easily fit inside the chassis. The card has good power consumption stats at 27w idle and 170 max load, giving you performance greater than Nvidia 275 GTX. The max load power consumption for the 4850 is lower, but performance suffers, equating to 9800 GTX.

Would have liked a bluray combo drive.

I love my Santa Rosa Macbook Pro. But, Apple will never be taken seriously for gaming until they put better quality graphics cards in their products. I would love for Apple to make the exception of allowing ATI & Nvidia to release their own graphics drivers for the Mac so I could put a ATI HD 5870 or Nvidia 295GTX in a Mac Pro.
 
The original MacBook Pro got a significant price drop when it was only a few months old...

I figured somebody would be able to come up with one case. ;) I couldn't think of any Apple products at all in recent years where a given model got a price drop, except the first iPhone, which isn't exactly a Mac. Apple mostly seems to make price adjustments only when new models come out.

--Eric
 
why apple ignored nVidia? (other than the base integrated graphics there is no nVidia graphics card available)

Might have something to do with the lawsuit between Intel and nVidia over the nehalem procs and competing chipsets.... dunno
 
It was dissapointing to see that Apple did not included the the ATI Radeon HD 5850 in its top of the line build. The card is roughly the same size ~9.6" and could have easily fit inside the chassis. The card has good power consumption stats at 27w idle and 170 max load, giving you performance greater than Nvidia 275 GTX. The max load power consumption for the 4850 is lower, but performance suffers, equating to 9800 GTX.

Would have liked a bluray combo drive.

I love my Santa Rosa Macbook Pro. But, Apple will never be taken seriously for gaming until they put better quality graphics cards in their products. I would love for Apple to make the exception of allowing ATI & Nvidia to release their own graphics drivers for the Mac so I could put a ATI HD 5870 or Nvidia 295GTX in a Mac Pro.

Because there isn't a mobile 5850 part yet?

imac's are always built from mobile parts inside other than the HDD.

Ditto the cpu's, depsite what the main site was saying, I don't think they're using desktop i5's/i7's in there, mobile parts of both are on release or will be shortly.
 
What memory bandwidth limits? I know it's dual channel but Anandtech looked at it in depth. It's not a problem.
It's not a problem most of the time, but if the comparison is on a mac pro, I'd think the workloads could put more pressure on the memory, and the i7 does have humongous amounts of bandwidth compared to the i5.
3.06Ghz is it a mobile CPU or desktop version?
probably desktops, the mobile i7s aren't out yet as far as I know.
It was dissapointing to see that Apple did not included the the ATI Radeon HD 5850 in its top of the line build.
Probably no mac version available.
Would have liked a bluray combo drive.
You guys need to stop with that, it's not going to happen until El Jobso is dead and buried, he hates the bloody thing.
 
It's 2009... And despite all it's designers and billions of dollar, Apple can't engineer even the most basic ergonomic functionality into their monitor or their AIO dekstop computer - the ability to adjust the height of the display.

You can't adjust the height on a notebook either, and it never bothered me. You couldn't adjust the height of CRT monitors either, and a lot of LCD monitors can't be adjusted, I don't think people really need it, unless you're really short or really tall, but then you can get an adjustable chair or table anyway.

Adjusting the height of a monitor (which is heavy) requires a telescopic mechanism that not only looks bad but is hard to use. Or some freaky complicated ugly looking mechanism that would look out of place anyway!
 
No vesa on 21"!!

I can't believe that they haven't put a vesa option on the 21". I have an original G5 Imac 20", which has been sitting on my wall for the past few years, and is now starting to look old. I was hoping that I could replace it with the 21", but it looks like a no go for now.:(
 
why apple ignored nVidia? (other than the base integrated graphics there is no nVidia graphics card available)

You haven't heard of Bumpgate?

Or all the faulty cards they have had problems with the last year?

That's the reason they ditched NVIDIA in favor of other solutions.
 
Overall, very solid updates. They've really been listening to customers... I mean, who could've predicted that Apple would allow the 27" iMac to be used as an external display? How freaking many threads have we had about "So, um, can I like use my iMac as a, um, display?"


To me, that's the most obvious no-brainer addition that should have been there for years! Lovely display - why not actually let people use it for other things, and make your product much more attrcative at the same time?

J
 
Because there isn't a mobile 5850 part yet?

imac's are always built from mobile parts inside other than the HDD.

Ditto the cpu's, depsite what the main site was saying, I don't think they're using desktop i5's/i7's in there, mobile parts of both are on release or will be shortly.

Just my 2 cents. Not saying anyone is right or wrong. A quick search on newegg comparing processor specs to the iMac specs would lead me to believe these actually are desktop processors. If you compare the specs speed, L3 cache, quad core, and the memory is dual channel, then this really looks like the LGA 1156 Core i5s and i7s. More specifically, I believe they are using the i5-750 Lynnfield and the i7-860 Lynnfield with Dual Channel DDR3.

That's just my thinking.
 
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