depends a lot on the price difference. if the entry-level phone is $600-700 and the updated X is $900+ i could see people buying the entry-level phone since the primary feature it would be missing is portrait mode. I doubt they'll continue to stock the X after this update, probably just the 8 and 8 plus.
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Hands-On With 6.1-Inch and 6.5-Inch 2018 iPhone Dummy Models
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I’m not sure what new features these new phone will have but the current ones are just fine for me. I doubt there is anything worth upgrading for this time around or in the near future. I think the form factor has reached it’s plateau.
The Apple Watch and the IPad Pro is where future innovation will be felt most. I will certainly upgrade my series 3 and 12.9 iPad Pro as those are where improvements are used the most.
The Apple Watch and the IPad Pro is where future innovation will be felt most. I will certainly upgrade my series 3 and 12.9 iPad Pro as those are where improvements are used the most.
Sadly, they are not disconnected. They deliberately did that to make Apple user pay them more and make a profit.
All I want is a SE (or even regular 6) sized phone with an edge to edge screen and flush camera 
In the mean time I love my X despite how heavy and huge it is, and probably wont upgrade until theres a smaller one
In the mean time I love my X despite how heavy and huge it is, and probably wont upgrade until theres a smaller one
I don’t know if these are the same dummies that MKBHD had on his video a couple of days ago, but I appreciate the clarification that the 6.5 and the 8 Plus will be essentially the same size.
I can check one concern off the list.
I can check one concern off the list.
I believe said phone will come in the fall of 2019.
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September 10 or 12.
I truly hope for something groundbreaking this time around. Anything different. I just can't get on the bandwagon for something "new" only to to be told that speed was increased by a fraction of what we have already, the screen size is bigger, and there are new Emoji's. It's not enough. I would almost rather them take a backseat to the iPhone for a minute and focus on some other tech or wearable devices. I mean, common', The Apple Contact Lens? I would be in a tent tomorrow in line for that. The hype of new is lost on me.
Given what we know so far, the dummy models and possibility of lower prices, 2018 iPhone lineup looks like a gangbuster.
Still, I wonder whether Apple is taking risk by offering only a single "standard price" iPhone model that measures closer to iPhone 8 Plus than iPhone 8.
To be fair, 6.1" iPhone is significantly smaller than iPhone 8 Plus. But it is still closer in size to iPhone 8 Plus than iPhone 8.
Still, I wonder whether Apple is taking risk by offering only a single "standard price" iPhone model that measures closer to iPhone 8 Plus than iPhone 8.
To be fair, 6.1" iPhone is significantly smaller than iPhone 8 Plus. But it is still closer in size to iPhone 8 Plus than iPhone 8.
Do you think just a small camera improvement and lcd will justify two hundred dollars more? Knowing Apple, it'll most likely be shipped with last year's processor, otherwise it would cannibalize the sales of the more expensive models.
Remember when Apple sold a Mac gadget for every conceivable niche? It culminated in the mid-'90s with the Performas, then Centris, WGS, clones, and other assorted freak-show entries like the Newton, eMate, and Pippin. Why does it seem history is repeating?
We don't yet know the price of iPhone 9, but it is widely rumored to replace iPhone 8, which begins at $699. iPhone 8 has a single camera and aluminum frame.
Also, 6.1" iPhone isn't dramatically larger than iPhone X.
- 4.7" iPhone measures: 138.4 mm by 67.3 mm by 7.3 mm
- 5.5" iPhone Plus measures: 158.4 mm by 78.1 mm by 7.5 mm
- 5.8" iPhone X measures: 143.6 mm by 70.9 mm by 7.7 mm
- 6.1" iPhone measures: 150.9 mm by 75.7 mm by 8.3 mm
- 6.5" iPhone X Plus measures: 157.5 mm by 77.4 mm by 7.7 mm
The dual-lens is more than just a feature, it visually distinguishes a premium phone.
The lack of 3D Touch hardware on the 6.1" is another separating feature.
With 7nm litho from TSMC, it's likely A12 has a smaller die size compared to A11. Similar to the way A11 is smaller than A10. In terms of cost, A12 makes sense on 6.1".
It amazes me that people still don't get what Apple sell. What they don't sell is "bargains".
The iPhoneX should have proven that. "Too expensive" everyone said and yet...
If they want a "new" phone, with dual cameras, at a bargain price then they'll probably buy a 2nd hand, or discounted, iPhoneX.
My point is that the 6.1 might struggle with competition from the iPhone X.
Time, with pricing and features, will tell.
Curious why? The SE is my preferred form factor. Just the right size, easier to hold. Stands up on its side, when needed. It's a great design. Are you laughing because you think it's a pipe dream that Apple will come out with a spec-bumped version?
Now that I can agree with. I am not a huge fan of the iPhone 6/7/8 design with the rounded edges. May seems minor, but I just don't like it, and I know because my gf had the iPhone 6s and now has the 7, so I handle it every day. She prefers my SE for games, too, believe it or not. Can't make this stuff up. I just wish developers wouldn't relegate the smaller screen size to being "not important" to design for.
iOS 11 runs great on my SE. Zero slowness. Curious what could be causing it to be dramatically slower on phones that are way faster. Got an example, or two?
Updated X? I missed that. Are we expecting a newer X model?
So 9, 9Plus and XI ?
Can Apple really bring out a "9" given last year's flag ship was a "10"?
I'd be disappointed if getting the best camera's was limited to the largest form factor given the X had top end cameras last year.
I think there needs to be a top spec compact iPhone and not just limited to the model with the largest screen.
This pending product announcement is going to be fascinating.
I wish there was a "print at home" cutout or something so we could see what the sizes are actually like.
Yes, women do prefer larger "screens". No psychology report needed for that.
Anyway...
I prefer the larger screen because my phone is also a portable TV/cinema. I'm on the go constantly and have a fair bit of downtime between jobs. Having a larger screen but the same psychical dimensions (basically) as a PLUS phone... COUNT ME IN!!!
I don't care if it has nothing else new. The screen and a better camera is all I care about on top of the regular phone functions.
I'm pretty peeved that the 6.1' doesn't have the dual-camera and therefore, no portrait mode. I completely understand why they did it but it's pretty frustrating that there's not even a software equivalent for the single lens camera like Google has for the Pixel. That's likely the iPhone I'll end up with if I upgrade, although the iOS 12 beta has really increased the speed of my 6s Plus and it's perfectly suitable as a daily driver still.