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Remember when Apple sold a Mac gadget for every conceivable niche? It culminated in the mid-'90s with the Performas, then Centris, WGS, clones, and other assorted freak-show entries like the Newton, eMate, and Pippin. Why does it seem history is repeating?

Sadly, I have been noticing the same thing. 8 Phones (X, 8, 8+, 7, 7+, 6, 6+, SE) and 7 Macs (MacBook, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro 13" & 15", iMac 21" & 27", iMac Pro) are currently available for sale on the Apple website.
 
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Prepare for zero innovation moving forward. Only thing you can do with these things is remove the notch, then make them thinner.
 
I'm getting to the point where the leaks and rumors and dummy units for the next iPhone are actually starting to get boring. It's almost always the same types of information that comes out every year, with very little capturing my interest. It's not breaking news anymore to report on the stuff, we only have to look at last years news and input the new model information and produce a news story.
The person or people who made those units are patting themselves on the back, spending money to make them and get recognition for something that in September (after the announcement) becomes pointless and a paperweight. You don't have any prize to show to anyone because the new phones are out.

It's time that this site and others find a better way of delivering and reporting the news on Apple, because they have become the "not paid for" marketing strategies that helps sells, iPhones, iPad and Macs and assist in helping someone decide if they want to buy it or not.Be picky about the news you put out MacRumors, someone else has already done the marketing you're doing now on their website too.

I suspect Apple allows certain leaks via third parties so it appears to be an accidental leak to increase interest which is an excellent marketing concept. Works on me - making me excited about the next iteration. I'm wishing this month would just end and September roll around so I can pre-order what I'm going to call the, 'iPhone Air'.
 
No it wasn't, the first generation Note wasn't even a year old when the iPhone 5 rolled out.

All these huge phones are cringy as hell, and the standard 6S is huge compared to the SE in the pocket, where it matters. The 4" screen is perfect for those of us who have better things to do than watch Netflix or whatever on a phone - Hell i'd go 3.5" if I could. Worked fine when I had an iPhone 4, what's different these days?

Look at all these people saying how the next release (same with the last release) is boring. It is boring, because every phone is huge these days. Is there even an Android equivalent of the SE?

I want a phone version of the 6th gen iPod touch, now that would be awesome

Hmm, I just thought of an advertising campaign, have imagery of a bunch of boring people on a bus or train all with their faces lit up by their phablet screens, then some attractive person pulling a super thin 3.5" iphone out of their jeans coin pocket and start chatting about, I dunno, whatever attractive people talk about. Kind of like the 1984 campaign but... reimagined for the next generation of tech needing a shake up with something new

add some cringy line about how a phone is "for those who want more out of life" or something, et voila
I agree. I recently had a battery problem in my iPhone 6 and I was forced to use my old iPhone 4S with iOS 6 (I love it) for about two weeks. I was amazed how comfortable it was to carry a phone in the pants pocket of those dimensions, I forgot. The innovation of Apple these days should be miniaturized by the powerful smartphones we have today, not getting bigger and bigger. I like the iPhone X, but I didn't buy it because I want something smaller than my iPhone 6 and the iPhone SE is too old for technology (beautiful design).
 
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Prepare for zero innovation moving forward. Only thing you can do with these things is remove the notch, then make them thinner.

Same was said about the iPhone 7 and Touch ID then we got the iPhone X and Face ID.

That’s innovative.
 
It's time to adapt, the iPhone 5 is tiny, was always tiny. If you can't handle that, you're not in the market for a smartphone. Are you also unaware that the 5.8" phone is literally the same size, or smaller, than the 6/7/8? And that the 6.5" will be the same size or slightly smaller than the old Plus models? That's not really all that bad...
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Ah yes, already speculating on "bad deals" when we don't even know the prices yet...not sure what you want them to do to shave hundreds of dollars off the price...

Many of us “upgraded” to the current sizes and then went back to the smaller SE. I’d pay $1K tomorrow for an SE sized phone with modern upgrades. Heck, I might even go smaller, if given the option.

At this point, I’m holding onto my SE until it stops working, and then I’m hoping the Watch will be good enough to not even carry a phone.
 
It amazes me that people still don't get what Apple sell. What they don't sell is "bargains".
The iPhoneX should have proven that. "Too expensive" everyone said and yet...

If they want a "new" phone, with dual cameras, at a bargain price then they'll probably buy a 2nd hand, or discounted, iPhoneX.
My point is that the 6.1 might struggle with competition from the iPhone X.
Time, with pricing and features, will tell.

I have to agree that the 6.1 LCD model will struggle competing with the iPhone X and X Plus. Most people buying these iPhones have plenty of money and showing off that single camera and cheap aluminum frame just screams, "I don't have enough money to get the best." Most people who want to show off their phones will dig a little deeper in their pocket. This is good for Apple's profitability as well.
 
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Before every new iPhone release, we're often inundated with rumors, part leaks, mockups, and dummy models, giving us a clear picture of what to expect when the new devices come out.

This year is no exception, and we've managed to get our hands on dummy models that are said to resemble the rumored 6.1-inch and 6.5-inch iPhones that are coming in 2018, both of which offer up a look at the sizes and designs we can expect from the 2018 iPhone lineup.


Apple's 2018 iPhone lineup, like the 2017 lineup, will include three phones, but the lineup's composition is unlike anything we've seen before. Apple is planning to introduce a 5.8-inch OLED iPhone that's a follow up to the iPhone X, a 6.5-inch OLED iPhone that can be thought of as an "iPhone X Plus," and a 6.1-inch LCD iPhone that's going to have a much lower price tag than the two OLED iPhones.

We don't have a dummy model of the 5.8-inch OLED iPhone to go along with dummy models of the upcoming 6.1 and 6.5-inch iPhones, because it's going to look identical to the existing iPhone X, so we've used a real iPhone X to compare to the two dummy models.

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iPhone X (left), 6.1-inch iPhone dummy (center), 6.5-inch iPhone dummy (right)
All three of the 2018 iPhones feature an edge-to-edge display that adopts Face ID and a TrueDepth camera system, marking the official end of Touch ID for new iPhones. To house the TrueDepth camera, there will be a notch on all three iPhones, just as there was on the iPhone X.

The middle-tier 6.1-inch iPhone uses an LCD display instead of an OLED display to keep costs down, which means that the bezels of that device are slightly thicker than the bezels of the 5.8-inch and 6.5-inch iPhones. The 6.1-inch iPhone dummy also features a single-lens camera, in line with rumors that Apple will stick with a single camera for cost purposes.

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6.1-inch iPhone dummy model
A dual-camera setup is expected for both the second-generation 5.8-inch iPhone X model and the 6.5-inch "iPhone X Plus" model, and we can perhaps expect some camera improvements, as Apple typically introduces new camera features with each iPhone upgrade.

Rumors have also suggested the 6.1-inch LCD iPhone will have an aluminum frame rather than the more durable stainless steel frame expected in the two more expensive devices, but other than the frame, the camera, the slightly thicker bezels, and the screen sizes, these devices are expected to be nearly identical.

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6.1-inch and 6.5-inch iPhone dummy models
All will include Apple's next-generation A12 processor, according to rumors, along with faster Intel-made LTE chips. RAM could be a differentiating factor, though, with the 6.1-inch LCD iPhone offering 3GB RAM and the OLED iPhones offering 4GB RAM.

We have absolutely no idea what Apple is planning to name its next-generation iPhones given the current iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X naming scheme. Most of the possibilities sound a little off, such as "iPhone Xs" or "iPhone X Plus" or "iPhone 9" or "iPhone XI." The naming of the 2018 iPhone lineup is perhaps the biggest mystery, given the myriad rumors and part leaks we've seen so far.

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iPhone X with 6.5-inch iPhone dummy model
Pricing for the 2018 iPhones could start somewhere right around $600 to $700 for the entry-level 6.1-inch LCD model, based on rumors, while the 5.8-inch OLED iPhone could cost between $800 and $900, and the 6.5-inch OLED iPhone could cost between $1,000 and $1,100.

For a complete rundown on all of the rumors we've heard about the 2018 iPhone lineup, make sure to check out our 2018 iPhone roundup.

What do you think of the iPhones Apple is planning to introduce this year? Which one will you buy? Let us know in the comments.

Article Link: Hands-On With 6.1-Inch and 6.5-Inch 2018 iPhone Dummy Models
I want apple to address the weight of these phones. They are getting to be a bit heavy. The 8+ makes my hand ache when i hold it for more than say 3 minutes in one hand. My iPhone X does not do that at all. Im hoping the new 6.5 model is lighter than the iPhone 8+.
 
I think just about every u Tuber now has got these mock ups and are doing reviews lol there are dozens of them lol
 
Just compare the iPhone X with the iPhone 8. The X isn't much bigger, but has a much bigger screen.
thats the whole point. The iPhone 8 has the best screensize for ME as i have small hands. iPhone X not only is that its bigger (even if slightly) but the screen is much bigger and I can no longer use it one hand and therefore its not good for my small hands. I simply can't reach corner to corner.
So, I don't understand why Apple is making them bigger and bigger each year without consideration for people with small hands.
 
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thats the whole point. The iPhone 8 has the best screensize for ME as i have small hands. iPhone X not only is that its bigger (even if slightly) but the screen is much bigger and I can no longer use it one hand and therefore its not good for my small hands. I simply can't reach corner to corner.
So, I don't understand why Apple is making them bigger and bigger each year without consideration for people with small hands.

Reach ability works great.
 
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Correct, but the 6.1" iPhone will very likely be at or below the 5.5" iPhone 6/7/8 Plus size.
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Except that for the first six months or so, the iPhone X was Apple's best selling model every single week (before the 8 and before the 8 Plus).
That is misleading though as iPhone X is only one thing whereas iPhone 8 and Plus are basically 1 also but they will count it separately. I would dare to say that iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus surpassed iPhone X easily. The way Apple positioned it was just a clever number game. If there was iPhone X and iPhone X plus from the start then I'm sure the numbers would be totally different.
 
I'm just posting my obligatory SE wishes. Who knows, Maybe Tim browses this forum. Don't forget about us small handed people.
 
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Reach ability works great.
Not really, that is a feature just to say that in this case. Intuitively I really don't wanna double tap each time I need to reach something. Its annoying and in that case I would rather switch to two hand usage then use this halfbaked feature
 
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Curious why? The SE is my preferred form factor. Just the right size, easier to hold. Stands up on its side, when needed. It's a great design. Are you laughing because you think it's a pipe dream that Apple will come out with a spec-bumped version?



Now that I can agree with. I am not a huge fan of the iPhone 6/7/8 design with the rounded edges. May seems minor, but I just don't like it, and I know because my gf had the iPhone 6s and now has the 7, so I handle it every day. She prefers my SE for games, too, believe it or not. Can't make this stuff up. I just wish developers wouldn't relegate the smaller screen size to being "not important" to design for.
I would take a spec bumped SE. An edge to edge SE with the same dimensions would be great, but I am not going to get picky. Just give me a new SE with current day speed and camera upgrade.
 
Not really, that is a feature just to say that in this case. Intuitively I really don't wanna double tap each time I need to reach something. Its annoying and in that case I would rather switch to two hand usage then use this halfbaked feature

How is it half baked?

You complained about not being able to reach corner to corner, reach ability solves that.

On the x, It’s a swipe not a double tap btw.
 
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Can’t justify spending $1,300 one year later. Yes, we are not in an era of disposable devices, but my 6s and X are in fantastic shape, so I think I will hold off until 5G is in full effect. Daily Mail snapped Tim Cook not using the latest iPad while getting his BMW washed (then again it could be one of many he owns). I am sure iOS 12, 13 and 14 will work just great on my X first gen.

I say all this now and its a different story when I visit the store.
That was probably the iPad he leaves in the car
 
How is it half baked?

You complained about not being able to reach corner to corner, reach ability solves that.

On the x, It’s a swipe not a double tap btw.
half baked = the fact that either double tap (on older phones) or swipe on x as you say. Ie. there is an action between my desired action (reach something) which makes it unintuitive and cumbersome. Maybe you like it but I don't.

I'm the 'least amount of clicks' kinda guy. :)
 
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It's not going to be the called the X Plus. It'll be the 8s, 8s Plus and Xs.

Those names make no sense.

Right now you have an 8, 8 Plus (larger 8) and the X.

The new phones are the "next" X, the "next" X plus, and the wicked stepchild LCD phone.

So two X's, and one hybrid. No way they take the "next" X and name it "8s" in your scenario. It would be taking a step backwards.

It will most likely be:
iPhone 9 (6.1" LCD) -- > evolution from the 8 (can't be 8s as not the same form factor)
iPhone Xs (5.8" OLED) --> evolution from the X
iPhone Xs Plus (6.5" OLED) -- bigger version of Xs
 
half baked = the fact that either double tap (on older phones) or swipe on x as you say. Ie. there is an action between my desired action (reach something) which makes it unintuitive and cumbersome. Maybe you like it but I don't.

I'm the 'least amount of clicks' kinda guy. :)



Maybe you don’t like it. But you can’t call it half baked.

Don’t really use it on the x, I can reach all the edges one handed, but I do use it on the 8 plus, it’s actually very intuitive.
 
Maybe you don’t like it. But you can’t call it half baked.

Don’t really use it on the x, I can reach all the edges one handed, but I do use it on the 8 plus, it’s actually very intuitive.
I can call it half baked as for me it is half baked. Its adding an extra step.
Regardless, if it works for you and you are fine with it then its perfect for you.
To me, big phones are just not the best option and that is why I'm sticking to iP8 format. I might consider getting a new one but that would be in case I'll give up on one hand functionality and start to use it two hands.
Meanwhile I will try the reachability on X as the way its implemented on iP8 etc. is not working for me. Double tap then select what you want and it goes back to full format and then if you need again you double tap and all you are doing is like this resize motion sickness thing :D :D :D
 
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It's time to adapt, the iPhone 5 is tiny, was always tiny. If you can't handle that, you're not in the market for a smartphone.
Wow, thank you for telling me what I am or are not in the market for. Seeing as you know me so well and are in the mood for defining what is and isn't a smart phone, which of my daily activities on my iPhone do you think I could do without because I'm already using a phone that's "too small"?
 
I can call it half baked as for me it is half baked. Its adding an extra step.
Regardless, if it works for you and you are fine with it then its perfect for you.
To me, big phones are just not the best option and that is why I'm sticking to iP8 format. I might consider getting a new one but that would be in case I'll give up on one hand functionality and start to use it two hands.
Meanwhile I will try the reachability on X as the way its implemented on iP8 etc. is not working for me. Double tap then select what you want and it goes back to full format and then if you need again you double tap and all you are doing is like this resize motion sickness thing :D :D :D

You can call it whatever you like but using the term half baked is inaccurate.
 
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