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I was speaking to the comment about the new screens unsuitability for media. I think you have to agree it didn't make much sense.

I read your comment as "the new screen would be great for media" - and I agree. But if media is the deciding factor here then it's an iPod you are looking for not a smartphone. Having a larger screen better improve on the smartphone side of things also. Apart from games and media this isn't very useful.

You may be right about current software looking odd on the new screen, but software can be modified to use it more effectively, no?

App developers feel free to se me straight - but i really don't see it. doesn't look like there is a mechanism for doing another setup of fields (eg. in parallel) in landscape mode. And there really isn't that much space to do anything meaningful anyway. This isn't a very large screen when you put it in landscape mode - it's 640 pixels...

I don't really follow other phones, but aren't the majority 16:9 screens anyway? Do they look silly?

My experience is the Nexus S and the SIII. The Nexus S in landscape mode annoy the hell out of me and earlier versions of Android didn't help. The SIII have a larger resolution (720p) and it makes it more useful when working in landscape mode and i really like it (except for the build quality). But yes - most phones are 16:9, but 16:9HD, not "discount" 16:9...

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Wireless Charging. :apple:

It looks like the Lumia 920 will have this.
 
... I don't care for NFC cause if I loose my phone I loose my wallet and my connection to the world...

Most people will still carry a wallet for cash, special credit cards, driver's license.

Having NFC doesn't mean our wallet automatically disappears. Not yet, anyway. Perhaps one day.

They can't yet mass produce radio-transparent metals, but that's obviously why they bought the rights to LiquidMetal's tech. An all-metal back would be a great design, but it just wouldn't work.

Just a note: LiquidMetal is not radio transparent.

(One of the inventors suggested that perhaps the whole metal back could be made into an antenna, which confused some reporters.)
 
Comparing the two, I'd applaud the changes if the shorter, more compact one were the new one...
 
If this is the new design Jonny is taking steps backwards or he spent too much time looking at Samsung's designs for the patent case.
I'd hate to attribute this (or blame) J. Ive for such a pedestrian look. First year designers my company hires are far more imaginative.
 
I read your comment as "the new screen would be great for media" - and I agree. But if media is the deciding factor here then it's an iPod you are looking for not a smartphone. Having a larger screen better improve on the smartphone side of things also. Apart from games and media this isn't very useful.

Are you saying that you can't have a screen that is both good for media and good as a smartphone? Because the screen is 16:9 then the software is compromised in some way?



App developers feel free to se me straight - but i really don't see it. doesn't look like there is a mechanism for doing another setup of fields (eg. in parallel) in landscape mode. And there really isn't that much space to do anything meaningful anyway. This isn't a very large screen when you put it in landscape mode - it's 640 pixels...

I think we'll have to wait and see what Apple do with their software once the phone is released. iOS 6 certainly has many upgraded api's so we should see 3rd party software making use of the extra screen pretty quickly.

My experience is the Nexus S and the SIII. The Nexus S in landscape mode annoy the hell out of me and earlier versions of Android didn't help. The SIII have a larger resolution (720p) and it makes it more useful when working in landscape mode and i really like it (except for the build quality). But yes - most phones are 16:9, but 16:9HD, not "discount" 16:9...

Sorry, I'm not following you at all on this point. Are you saying that the screen is still too small for a smartphone? If so, I don't really see how the screen resolution / aspect ratio relates to this. :confused:


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The two tone is so there is to have a mostly metal back and still have somewhere for the antennas that is not encased in metal.

The taller screen is not just so that it is larger. It is so the dimensions are HD video when it is wide view.
 
Just a note: LiquidMetal is not radio transparent.

(One of the inventors suggested that perhaps the whole metal back could be made into an antenna, which confused some reporters.)

That is interesting. Does it actually interfere with frequency? Cause that could explain the two tone colors/metals on the back.

I don't see a genuine apple surprise which personally I Really expected. Especially after the 4-4s changes. You know one of those upgrades like the MBA was or the iMac 27" back when they only had 24".
 
WTF? Turn the phone on it's side and you have a 16:9 screen perfect for watching media. The viewable area will be much improved over the iPhone 4S (no black bars).

So Apple gives you the perfect screen ratio for watching media, and you bitch about it... seems you're not going to be happy with an iPhone regardless.

Nevermind.

Do you watch a lot movies on your iPhone? Coz I don't. Even at 16:9 the screen is still too small to comfortably watch media content for an extended period IMHO.
 
Do you watch a lot movies on your iPhone? Coz I don't. Even at 16:9 the screen is still too small to comfortably watch media content for an extended period IMHO.

I agree with you. I was simply pointing out the original post was wrong in saying that the 16:9 screen was somehow worse for media.

However, as, I use AirPlay to display video taken on my phone, I will appreciate the lack of bars down the side of the TV screen.

Nevermind.
 
Are you saying that you can't have a screen that is both good for media and good as a smartphone? Because the screen is 16:9 then the software is compromised in some way?

Sorry, I'm not following you at all on this point. Are you saying that the screen is still too small for a smartphone? If so, I don't really see how the screen resolution / aspect ratio relates to this. :confused:

No - I'm saying that the vertical resolution isn't enough in my opinion (640 px). I work with 16:10 screens every day so I agree that it is the way to go. My point is that it doesn't look so crammed on a SIII and that has the benefit of 80 more pixels, it makes a big difference when screens get this small.

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The taller screen is not just so that it is larger. It is so the dimensions are HD video when it is wide view.

It's 16:9 not HD
 
I had the iPhone 4. I liked all the new stuff the 4S had, so i got it. BUT i am also a gadget guy, i like new stuff. The 4S does not feel like a new phone. It feels and looks like the iPhone 4. And well, the new iPhone kinda looks the same.

Not sure about it all...
 
That is interesting. Does it actually interfere with frequency? Cause that could explain the two tone colors/metals on the back.

Yes, metal acts as a barrier to radio transmissions, unless of course it's part of the antenna itself.

(LiquidMetal is a metal alloy with more plastic like molding characteristics. We keep joking that it should've been called PlasticMetal, but that's not as cool a name - grin.)

In this case, however, the back seems to be aluminum and that's why there's the different end cap materials for most antennas. (There's speculation that the metal section might be used as an NFC antenna, though.)
 
I'm a big fan of the iphone 4 form factor so liking the 5's mockup. The FaceTime camera in the centre also makes it look more unified with the iPad and iPod. The bump in screen size was good enough. Not too fused as long as it got some improvement. The headphone jack will definitely take a bit of getting used to though
 
I really hope these are controlled leaks. But have we ever seen a control leak?

Also when the first iPhone came out, I remember being very surprised. What happened to the secrecy?
 
Wow are You wrong. Everything Apple sells has a very big design-element to it, materials, finish, build-quality and colors. An owner of some kind of Apple product saying it's doesn't matter if the thing looks cool and no one other than "you" care don't know what they are talking about.

That's why there is a point to his Nokia flirt - they also understand this mechanism.

I buy Apple because it works the way I want it to, not because it's cool. I've been buying it since 1987, long before it was cool.
 
I really hope these are controlled leaks. But have we ever seen a control leak?

Also when the first iPhone came out, I remember being very surprised. What happened to the secrecy?

It's no "secret" that Apple will be making another iPhone. The iPhone is Apple's #1 product... so of course they will keep making them.

I guess they could try to keep what it looks like a secret... but with suppliers all across the globe and the fact that they have to make millions of iPhones per day... some parts are bound to leak out.

But the big takeaway is... people will be buying this phone for the next year or more.

So it doesn't really matter if people got their first sight at the September 12th announcement... or from a leak months ago.
 
Apple is widely expected to announce the new iPhone on September 12th.

You should end every story with this sentence. Wait you do.

You should put it up on the top of the site everyday. Oh yeah, you do.

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It's needed so that all the antennae work. Especially the cell antennae on top and bottom.

I bet you didn't know that "Antennae" is the plural when used in biology. But "Antennas" is the plural when used in technology?

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I really hope these are controlled leaks. But have we ever seen a control leak?

Also when the first iPhone came out, I remember being very surprised. What happened to the secrecy?

There is no proof of a 'controlled leak'. It is just a conspiracy theory.

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Lazy Apple, rehashing the iPhone 4 design.

Smart Apple, continuing on a beautiful and successful design.
 
2) iOS hasn't significantly changed in quite some time - years, in fact. It still sports the same row of icons and functions in the same way as version 1, albeit with refinements. There have been very few updates of significance over the past few years (Siri is more hype than substance in my opinion) while Android seems to morph every 6 to 12 months due to fierce competition.

I on the other hand would be annoyed if they did this. Because I'd be annoyed when I found a feature I liked or user interface I liked and they just changed it around just to change it around. I like that the OS interface is consistant and that they just add functionality. I see no reason to change just for change's sake. If it works well, why change it? It should only be changed if it is broken or there is a better way.
 
I'd hate to attribute this (or blame) J. Ive for such a pedestrian look.

There's an awful lot going on behind the scenes at Apple. IMO it would be a mistake to simply assume this is a "real" Ive design.
 
I think a couple of pictures will say a thousand words.

iPhone 1 Queue

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iPhone 3G queue

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iPhone 4 queue

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iPhone 4s queue

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iPhone 5 queue:
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