What makes it worth $1000 is whether enough people buy it for $1000 and it makes Apple a profit.
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Hands-On With Apple's $4999 Pro Display XDR and $999 Stand
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I wonder if most professionals want the stand. Most of the time I use my monitors on some sort of arm. So the stands that came with the monitor is still sitting in a box in storage.
To me it seems better to make a desktop stand an option, rather have to pay hundreds additional for something that you eventually end up throwing away unused.
To me it seems better to make a desktop stand an option, rather have to pay hundreds additional for something that you eventually end up throwing away unused.
For a situation where more than one person is sitting at the screen, editing something, this monitor is ideal and worth it.
Not if you watch a real review. These displays darken significantly if you're off the centre line, so although both would see the display all of the value of the monitor would be gone (no dark spots, accurate colour etc.). That's the problem with listing specs, it doesn't give the real story. Yes, it's 179 degree viewing but what does that look like in reality?
6K would be e real advantage in my workflow, but I'd need the non-glossy version and it's still unclear if this monitor run smoothly for example with a MBP 16" (without eGPU). Maybe someone could test that?
They should have included it and have it discounted by a 1000 dollars if you didn't want it, because in the end the reality is that nobody that's gonna buy this (except for some youtubers and some dumb rich guys) wants the stand. All the professional users want the VESA-mount so they can just put it in their setup.
Wait, the Pro Display cannot be used with the iMac Pro?
Sounds familiar, wasn’t this the same with the Mac Pro and 5K Display?
Sounds familiar, wasn’t this the same with the Mac Pro and 5K Display?
as I’m reading some of these comments without the benefit of watching the unboxing video, it occurred to me that indeed, nothing much changes.
I can’t wait until they finally shipping the two nano-etched XDRs. The article hints that they are not shipping yet but no ETA is available. I’m anxious to have them for many reasons; my two sequential vitrectomy my right eye recently under gone could really use that resolution.
in their category as high-end professional post-production monitors made by SONY, Enzo and others are in a different league entirely. Once people would research a bit as to what may precipitate this kind of price tag we could even have constructive conversations one day. My 2 VESA adapters came early. Quality is off the charts the design is practical and georgeously machined. $200ea is perfectly reasonable once you see them. I had even placed N order for the stand as well in case I need to carry one of them to a studio, the stand is worth having one around.
This is a 32-inch 6K display that is brighter (1,600 nits) than almost any display that any of us have seen before and offers groundbreaking color accuracy that could make $30,000 to $40,000 "reference displays" from Sony and Flanders Scientific obsolete (none of them go higher than 4
Also don’t forget, these displays have a built-in USB-C hub as well as charge my 16” MBP saving me money on a docking station or even a spare 96W AC brick.
If you guys hear the Nano XDRs are about to prepare for shipment, please ping me. Thanks.
I can’t wait until they finally shipping the two nano-etched XDRs. The article hints that they are not shipping yet but no ETA is available. I’m anxious to have them for many reasons; my two sequential vitrectomy my right eye recently under gone could really use that resolution.
in their category as high-end professional post-production monitors made by SONY, Enzo and others are in a different league entirely. Once people would research a bit as to what may precipitate this kind of price tag we could even have constructive conversations one day. My 2 VESA adapters came early. Quality is off the charts the design is practical and georgeously machined. $200ea is perfectly reasonable once you see them. I had even placed N order for the stand as well in case I need to carry one of them to a studio, the stand is worth having one around.
This is a 32-inch 6K display that is brighter (1,600 nits) than almost any display that any of us have seen before and offers groundbreaking color accuracy that could make $30,000 to $40,000 "reference displays" from Sony and Flanders Scientific obsolete (none of them go higher than 4
Also don’t forget, these displays have a built-in USB-C hub as well as charge my 16” MBP saving me money on a docking station or even a spare 96W AC brick.
If you guys hear the Nano XDRs are about to prepare for shipment, please ping me. Thanks.
Stick to VESA mount was better idea for now.
But some people seems prefer Apple aesthetics so they bought the stand.Hope some 3rd party making quality stand in more reasonable way.
Because iMac Pro still using older Thunderbolt 3 controller. They can drive, but only in 5K.
But some people seems prefer Apple aesthetics so they bought the stand.Hope some 3rd party making quality stand in more reasonable way.
Because iMac Pro still using older Thunderbolt 3 controller. They can drive, but only in 5K.
from a logistics and stock control this would mean stocking, 4 to 5 items 1) screen with stand, 2) screen with vega, 3) the stand (for those who bought vega and want to change) 4) the vega (for those who bought the stand and want to change), 5) the screen alone for replacements, this would inevitably lead to having to much or too little of one, I.e “sorry we can’t sell you a screen with vega but we have hundreds of screens with stands” there would be outrage, this approach is the same as watches and straps it’s much more efficient to stock and ship them separately.
Yep... and it's because it's financially out of reach of most Mac-hobbyists / enthusiasts / lovers / prosumers...
guys obviously, you don´t know a thing about promoting products. After all those stand-memes, almost EVERYONE knows about a professional display from Apple. Most of them does not even know about any other display of that kind.
This was PR genius!
Pretty sure a bunch of 14-year olds with rich parents will get those as well as Mac Pros - just to show them off in infantile youtube reviews.
Some people don't need the stand and they can chose the VESA kit instead.
I don't think the stand is cheap to make, of course is way overpriced at $1000 but not including it on the box isn't a bad choice.
With a lower price like $500 they'd have avoided some of the bad press, but I'm sure they thought about that and they're usually good at marketing so I guess they don't lose many sales with that ridiculous price and they keep their great margins too.
Got a gorgeous new TV set (82" Samsung Q60R, highly recommended, with Harman/Kardon SoundBar). Are there any disadvantages using it as my main solo screen for working (4K video editing) on the MP (via HDMI)?
Thanks for enlightenment.
Thanks for enlightenment.
I really really just cannot see $1000 value in the stand. What happens btw when the magnets lose their polarisation?
My first Mac tower was almost 4 years old when I purchased it, not to mention surpassed technology (thanks PowerPC), and as such cost about 1/5 the original retail... Currently I'm running a 9 year old MacPro, that I purchased when it was 7 years old...
You don't have to wait 10 years... but probably at least 5!
My first Mac tower was almost 4 years old when I purchased it, not to mention surpassed technology (thanks PowerPC), and as such cost about 1/5 the original retail... Currently I'm running a 9 year old MacPro, that I purchased when it was 7 years old...
You don't have to wait 10 years... but probably at least 5!
I don’t see your post as divisive, though apparently you intended it to be. I just find it ill-informed, and not particularly well-thought out.
There are two options available: VESA mount and stand. Both cannot be used at the same time. Maybe demand is 50/50, but whatever. So which do you include, if you sell the monitor bundled. Or do you include them both?
It’s pretty obvious that if you bundle, it’s a waste of money and not really environmentally friendly, to include the wrong mounting method and have it get thrown in a closet. It only makes sense to let the customer choose their preferred option. That one might arrive before the other is a low-value concern and not really germane.
No, the XDR can be used with the iMac Pro, and is even supported at the iMac Pro’s maximum resolution.
re: your second question, are you talking about the 2013 Mac Pro? I assume you are, and the answer is it depends on the monitor. For example, the HP Z27Q works fine at 5K, but you need to have the correct cables. It plugs into two ports and works in MST mode. Beautiful 5K Retina. But the monitor must support MST mode.
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Even the Mac mini is financially out of reach for many. Maybe Apple shouldn’t sell any Mac, except something around $50 like a raspberry pi. That way nobody would feel bad about not being able to afford more expensive models. Except those that couldn’t afford it, even at $50.
Interesting how the MacPro and the display are being compared to 80s and 90s hardware a lot here to rationalize the price.
Don't be so patronising.
The Mini IS out of reach because of Apple's chronically off this planet price gouging for their soldered storage and RAM.
There is no other reason, other than unscrupulous price monopolisation and rogue profiteering, considering their market buying capacity, it's almso t down right or should be deemed criminal charging what they do. All of us, as end users, at retail level can buy single quantity at more than half the price Apple demands.
Example, upgrade the CPU to one 100Mhz higher than base, Apple is charging the total cost amount for the entire new CPU. At retail, the upgraded CPU in 1 QTY is only $50, so in reality, Apple buying in OEM Tray amounts the upgrade cost is much less, say $20. Charging the Apple customer and extra $50 is reasonable, but not deducting the cost of the base, and adding the cost of the entire new CPU to the base should be illegal.
Same with the storage, and RAM, user can buy retail single quantity with not market power or preferential deal and still can buy double the capacity for less cost than Apple charge us.
This is what is making the Mac's unreachable, often you either gect sucked into paying or just go no way and don't buy a Mac at all.
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WTF?
In the 80s, yes obviously, the industry was just starting. In the 90's prices were dropping.
In the 2000's, my PowerMac's never cost $10,000+ AUD and never did displays cos anywhere close to 8K. Those Trinitrons and Diamondtrons (Mitsubishi) were only about 2.5K AUD back in the day.
They're plenty of users like to see the $999 thunderbolt display gets a refresh and most people wouldn't complain if the thickness is the same as the iMac. The Apple Pro Display XDR is = more expensive + less innovation type of product.