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It looks nice , but I just bought a 13" regular MBP so will wait for the 2nd gen of 13" rMBP before I think about moving.
 
too much money, but it's beautiful

Yeah, it's too much money, but this is a beautiful computer.

A pound lighter than the non-Retina, SSD and a terrific display.

I spend a lot of time looking at a computer screen - it might as well be the best available.

I'm not a gamer or videographer, so lack of a discrete graphics card matters to me not at all. Not quad-core? Might have been nice, but it will be snappy enough and not a deal-breaker for me. If it was, I'd buy the 15" - but I love the 13" size too much.

This will probably be the machine to replace this circa-2010 MBP - my wife will be happy to have this machine!
 
Yeah, it's too much money, but this is a beautiful computer.

A pound lighter than the non-Retina, SSD and a terrific display.

I spend a lot of time looking at a computer screen - it might as well be the best available.

I'm not a gamer or videographer, so lack of a discrete graphics card matters to me not at all. Not quad-core? Might have been nice, but it will be snappy enough and not a deal-breaker for me. If it was, I'd buy the 15" - but I love the 13" size too much.

This will probably be the machine to replace this circa-2010 MBP - my wife will be happy to have this machine!


It seems you can knock it down to 1899 with education pricing. Still quite expensive. I am hoping there is a better education pricing program (like the one for rMBP 15 -200 and another 100 GC for free)
 
I have 2 MBA 13s and have to say the screens are horrible compared with a rMBP....

Perhaps, but TBH I've looked at the rMBP15 and the colour shift on the screen is not that great. I have an IPS NEC 2690WUXi (the non-Spectraview one, but same panel) - the colours on that are much better than the retina.

And I have an HTC One S with AMOLED panel. Oversaturated of course, but much better gamut then this IPS retina.

Yeah I have 4 DSLRs and a bunch of primes, so I like the idea of a high quality screen. The retina MBPs are a step in teh right direction, but merely the words 'retina' and 'IPS' dont guarantee a great display.
 
It is interesting that there is space exactly to fit regular 2.5" harddrive inside the 13" retina macbook. But no BTO option for 1TB spinning drive...
Has something gone wrong with the design? iFixit will hopefully tell.

are you confusing Fusion drive on MacMini/iMac with this?

there are no spinning drive here in rMBP 13.3"

$300 for a 256GB SSD - bummer. and NO 16GB RAM. - enough said.
 
Not Pro.

No quadcore, memory fixed at 8GB, no dedicated GPU...

I see the chinks in Apple's armor...

But did the 13" cMBP ever really deserve the "pro" designation for anything less than a maxed out machine? I think we were better off when the 13" was the "macbook" and the 15" was the "macbook pro"

Maybe the cMBP design will receive a price and spec drop soon and be called the "macbook" while the rMBP becomes the "pro"
 
They should add this sticker next to the keyboard:

WARNING!

Intel HD Graphics Inside. Avoid scrolling, zooming, dragging windows and other graphically intensive activities.

But.. but moving things around constantly is the only way I can avoid image retention :(
 
The current non retina 13" MBP supports 16GB of RAM if buying from Crucial. Is the motherboard on the retina version different where it wouldnt support 16GB?
 
The non-upgradeable 8GB of RAM doesn't bother me.
The paltry 128GB SSD doesn't bother me.
The dual-core chip doesn't surprise me.
The integrated graphics doesn't surprise me.

What surprises and bothers me is the absolutely bonkers price. Yes, I know there's an Apple tax on all products, but this one is egregious. The 15" rMBP is way better value.
 
I'm struggling to understand this as an option over the 13" MBA. Retina display, faster processor (though still dual core), hdmi, and one more TB port. And for that, it's thicker, heavier, and $500 more? I'd take the air in a heartbeat.
 
It is nice that the displays are sharper but I want to actually work at that resolution. The best native resolution we can get is 1680 x 1050 and its HD 4000 power.

The 13" MacBook Air looks like a winner here. Now if it was not such a pain to get it with 8 GB of RAM or more for that matter. How about just upgrading the 13" MacBook Pro to 1440 x 900 and you would have my money.
 
Higher resolution with weak specs is just a gimmick at this point. Dual core... really?

Excuse me, but higher resolution = higher specs.

2560 x 1600 pixels display. Second highest resolution of any laptop that you can buy for any money (guess who makes the laptop with the highest resolution).
 
How about just upgrading the 13" MacBook Pro to 1440 x 900 and you would have my money.

Yep, what kept me from the MBP13 was the terrible resolution (1280x800 was out of date in that class of machine in 2008) and the mega-glare extra pane of glass. The MBA13 solved both those problems, but only has 4GB (for the 2011 model). The new rMBA13 solves them at a cost that makes the rMBP15 look like a great deal.

I wonder if the screens are costing them a lot if they are no longer getting them from Samsung...
 
I'm struggling to understand this as an option over the 13" MBA. Retina display, faster processor (though still dual core), hdmi, and one more TB port. And for that, it's thicker, heavier, and $500 more? I'd take the air in a heartbeat.

Yeah, I tend to agree: if you want a real workhorse Mac notebook, get a 15" MBP (standard, HR or retina) and if you want a terrific, ultra-portable machine, get a Macbook Air. Again the 13" Pro seems to fall into an odd place.
 
Excuse me, but higher resolution = higher specs.

2560 x 1600 pixels display. Second highest resolution of any laptop that you can buy for any money (guess who makes the laptop with the highest resolution).

And in terms of actual non-hacking selectable resolution Sony Vaios have 1920x1080 on their 13" machines.

I hate Sony, but still - higher actual res.
 
I am a photographer. I can't stand editing on a 13" screen. Even the non hi-res 15" is too small. Portability isn't an issue, the 15" fits in my camera bag. Plus, I do wayyyy too much video editing for a dual core and 8GB of RAM.

Well I am also a photographer and I find 13" to be the perfect size. I've been waiting for this to be released so that I could chose between it and the maxed out 13" MBA. I have 4 main lenses and a camera in my bag, and carrying my current MBP along with it is a serious pain in the a$$.

Also your comment on video editing sorta contradicts your first statement. If you are doing heavy video editing then you probably are more of a videographer, so in this case, yea this notebook is not for you.
 
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for that price I would expect a quad core cpu. I'll probably get one next year when that's a "new" feature.
 
I was one click away then thought otherwise.
I am going with Lenovo and a full docking station dual 24 in monitors.
The portability of the desktop and the quick transition from laptop to a decent desktop. Sacrificing looks for bang for the buck.
 
waiting on haswel ..

this upgrade was pointless...
no dedicated GPU = FAIL
Price = FAIL
 
Beautiful computer, and I'm sure it will sell well.

But for me (and I'm sure for a lot of others on this forum), the base 15" rMBP offers better value.
 
Makes me want a base 13 inch MBA instead...

This is my question. Price is high but not an issue for me. But wondering why not go maxed out MacBook Air. No retina, half a pound lighter. What does this get me? Does the processor bump matter for a user. What is the integrated graphics getting me. So just not sure/on the fence.
 
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