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Usually, I would agree with you, but in this case you need a 30w charger to max this out and I don’t have those lying around, so add another 50 bucks to the price. If Apple wants to stop giving power bricks, that is fine, but make your products operate at full capacity with the ones that you have already distributed. Business 101 and Apple has failed.

I just keep thinking how appalled Steve Jobs would be at Apple at this point, numerous iPhones, iPads, Macbook Pro’s, Air’s, powerbricks, etc. USC-C chargers my iPad Pro, but not my iPhone 12 Pro. The simplicity is gone. Apple is trying to be something for everyone and has made it worse.
Not everyone wants to max it out though - in the standard use case of charging overnight there's literally no benefit to using a powerful adapter, it will be actively slowed by the charging software anyway. Heck, people travelling for work and staying in hotels may be happy using built-in USB sockets so don't need any adapter at all. Makes sense for people to have the choice if you aks me.
 
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can some one who already have it please help me and say me the dimensions of the duo charger once opened?

thanks
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That’s actually impressively accurate too - I measured with a tape and got 7.3cm by 16.1.
 
<Rant> At what point in mobile device history did we suddenly all need to have a minor in electrical work in order to properly charge our collection of devices? More and more I'm seeing things like what was stated in this article: "charge an iPhone 12 at up to 15W with Apple's 20W USB-C charger, but if you use that same 20W USB-C charger with the MagSafe Duo, an iPhone 12 will be limited to a maximum of 11W. You can use a 27W+ charger instead and it will charge at up to 14W, but it is not able to hit that 15W maximum" and wondering how are normal humans keeping all the different wattage requirements straight?

A couple of months I bought a Ravpower USB multi-charger for my daughter's college desk, so she could charge her MacBook and her phone easily without reaching behind the desk for the wall warts.Turns out the unit only properly charges the MacBook if the phone is NOT charging at the same time, because of max wattage issues. So, as it turns out in order to do a simple thing like buy a desktop charger, I need to research the wattage of the unit, then look up the power requirements of every device I might want to charge and come up with a matrix of what I can and can't charge together at any given time. How is this making things easy for the consumer? It was bad enough when we had to determine the right collection of USB, USB-C, Mini-USB, and Lightning cables. </rant>

Oh, and get off my lawn.
 
I don't recall any time when it was easier?
Easier? The expectations were different, so our behavior was, depending on how far back you go.
The problem is as USB gained prominence and evolved to us can, our expectation was this was a universal solution. Now instead of proprietary plugs or a limited number of power profiles, we have tens, no, seemingly thousands of power standards Going over one plug. Millions. And some manufActures even log the hardware of the power supply and limit the profile or prevent its use of it isn’t approved.
There was a time.... the 80’s, when everything was perfect. Power came over the wire, only 6 people had cell phones, you could talk an operator into a free long distance call on a pay phone once and awhile. Teletypes were so loud they could drown out your boss’s complaints, instead of these newfangled noise canceling earbuds. And you could only get so many an hour instead of waking up to 80 emails on your phone every day. Ugh.
That was the way telecommunications should have stayed.
And the seemingly simple step of charging is so messed up I can’t tell if I’m joking anymore.
This is, however, a conscious choice by manufacturers. Keep that in mind as well.
 
I have no words for the utterly ridiculousness of this price (150€ in Portugal) and by not even having a charger included.

Where is my “just works” experience, I used to have in the past? Left with Jobs?

Absurdity, this is!
 
<Rant> At what point in mobile device history did we suddenly all need to have a minor in electrical work in order to properly charge our collection of devices?
It's always been this way, you may have not had a hobby or situation involving it back in the glory days. Trickle chargers of various sizes and outputs have definitely been around for tending autos, boats, and various other hobby devices.

I want to like this dual charger, but that price point is pretty steep for what it does vs what else is still required to be purchased separately for full use. It also only charges 2 items at a time. Why not the watch, phone, and headphone combo?
 
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The pattern here so far is that most people are complaining about the price and lack of power brick, but the people who actually purchased it love it.
I’m sure its a nice product. Folds up nice and puts away. Just not worth the $$$. The profit margin is likely through the roof for Apple. The nice thing about wireless charging is it is not proprietary so one quality charger will likely charge any modern phone. This openness invites some really neat solutions at good prices.
 
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Mr. Cook looking at reviews and price complaints is scratching his head, “I don’t get it?” he says :rolleyes:
 
Yep looks pretty dumb.
I couldn't agree more. The is right up there with the $700 Mac Pro wheels... completely and unnecessarily expensive.
This product should be $79.99 and come with a ample power adapter. $129 for this and it doesn't even come with a power adapter? C'mon.......
 
This product is the side of "current Apple" that needs to change. Yes, they should sell an expensive, top of the line, best in class charger.

But this is only expensive.

Even if you pay Apple the extra $20 for the 20w charger, you still get a subpar charging experience. To get the best, you literally have to search around and test out random 3rd party wall adapters. This is sad, for a $130 charger.

The design is nice for travel, but the fact that the whole thing moves when you pick up the phone is another sad part of this product. They should have used weaker magnets, as the "stick" of MagSafe isn't really necessary for this product, other than to just get it aligned.

It's crazy to me that the M1 MacBook Air/Pro, iPhone 12 and iPad Air/Pro come from the same company. Those products are incredible, and this thing is just phoned-in.
 
If they had made it just a bit cheaper and included the charging brick, then it would be a definite buy for me, I need 4 of these to replace my families 4 Apple Watch Chargers and 4 iPhone chargers. 8 things in a travel bag get tangled so easy not matter how hard I try to for basic cord management.

I just put each cord in a baggie. Quicker and easier than twist ties or something else to secure a coiled up cord. No tangles and no damage from something snagging the cord.
 
This is not worth the price of admission. If people buy it, then it sends a message to Apple that it is ok to put out substandard products and charge a premium for them. We already saw the evolution of $1000+ phones, and now they are taking away the power adapters. What's next, 6G phone antenna is an extra $250?
 
it picks up the charger when you pick your phone is stupid. Should have less metal inside the charger so the phone doesn't pick it up. this will be used on a desk so no need for such a strong magnet like the magsafe puck.
Have you used it?
 
I quite like it, but the price really is hard to justify.
Take the Apple Watch straps £49, the ones from Ali express £2 and i can’t tell the difference honestly.
Will wait for an Anker or Belkin derivative before taking the plunge as not much travelling happening at present.
 
Yeah I highly doubt that. You're telling me that Apple didn't include the 20W charger because people would throw it away and go out and buy the 30W charger? I'm sorry but that makes absolutely no sense to me.
no. you’re completely forgetting the people who already have the 30w charger as well (which while traveling, is probably preferred).
 
Mine just arrived and I’m super underwhelmed. It’s flimsy, tacky looking and should be $49 with a charging block included not $150+. Looks crap next to the bed too. I really wanted this to work but it’s a rare fail from Apple. Definitely going back.
 
Finally a first party wireless charging solution from Apple and it‘s lovely. Feels absolutely solid (heavier than expected) and looks super nice and minimal. I got an Aukey PD 3.0 charger brick with it and both iPhone and Watch charge simultaneously just fine.
 
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Usually, I would agree with you, but in this case you need a 30w charger to max this out and I don’t have those lying around, so add another 50 bucks to the price. If Apple wants to stop giving power bricks, that is fine, but make your products operate at full capacity with the ones that you have already distributed. Business 101 and Apple has failed.

I just keep thinking how appalled Steve Jobs would be at Apple at this point, numerous iPhones, iPads, Macbook Pro’s, Air’s, powerbricks, etc. USC-C chargers my iPad Pro, but not my iPhone 12 Pro. The simplicity is gone. Apple is trying to be something for everyone and has made it worse.
Ah yes, the same Steve Jobs who had an iPod, an iPod Mini, an iPod Nano, an iPod Touch, and an iPod Shuffle.
The same Steve Jobs who would only let people who paid for more storage get colors on their iPods.
The same Steve Jobs who introduced an iPhone with a flawed antenna design, and then when questioned about it, simply stated that “ you’re holding it wrong.”
The same Steve Jobs who charged almost $100, for a product called MagSafe, that was made for MacBooks. Yes, the single Mac cord was almost $100. People like to forget that.
The same Steve Jobs Who introduced Mac OS X snow leopard at $29, but then advertise that as an “ upgrade only” disc, and insisted for anyone who wanted to clean install, they buy a $169 reinstall version, despite the fact that the $29 disc still would let you clean install.
The same Steve Jobs who introduced A MacBook Air at $1800, that’s $2100 in today’s money, that was less powerful than the cheaper MacBook and MacBook Pro.
The same Steve Jobs who had a plastic MacBook, and an aluminum MacBook, that were both selling at a very similar price.
The same Steve Jobs who sold the first generation Apple TV at $300, then lowered it to $230, then lowered it to $100 when he realized that no one was paying $300 for the Apple TV.
The same Steve Jobs who introduced the iPod touch at $299 in September 2007, then introduced a relatively small software update in January 2008 that cost an additional $20. A software update, for an iPod, costed $20, only three months after the iPod was announced.
Stop idolizing Steve Jobs. His version of Apple was just as flawed, if not more, then the current version of Apple.
They still price gouged, they still overcharged, Waymore than they do today.
Think about this, if you bought a power Mac G5, which cost of the upwards of $3000, in 2006 while they were still being sold, it was no longer getting software updates by 2009. That’s 3 years.
If you bought the first generation iPad in April 2010, it stopped getting software updates in 2012. Two years of software support.
Meanwhile, in Tim Cook‘s apple, if you bought the iPhone 5S in 2013, it continued to get new features and software updates up until last fall, and it still gets security updates to this day. Seven years of software support.
If you bought an iMac from 2013, you’re still getting updates today.
Now tell me again, which company cares more about their customers?
The Steve Jobs apple, which was fine giving iPad customers only two years of software updates, and Mac customers three years?
Or the Tim Cook apple, which refuses to give customers any less than 5 to 7 years of software updates and tech-support.
 
Easier? The expectations were different, so our behavior was, depending on how far back you go.
The problem is as USB gained prominence and evolved to us can, our expectation was this was a universal solution. Now instead of proprietary plugs or a limited number of power profiles, we have tens, no, seemingly thousands of power standards Going over one plug. Millions. And some manufActures even log the hardware of the power supply and limit the profile or prevent its use of it isn’t approved.
There was a time.... the 80’s, when everything was perfect. Power came over the wire, only 6 people had cell phones, you could talk an operator into a free long distance call on a pay phone once and awhile. Teletypes were so loud they could drown out your boss’s complaints, instead of these newfangled noise canceling earbuds. And you could only get so many an hour instead of waking up to 80 emails on your phone every day. Ugh.
That was the way telecommunications should have stayed.
And the seemingly simple step of charging is so messed up I can’t tell if I’m joking anymore.
This is, however, a conscious choice by manufacturers. Keep that in mind as well.

I feel like your post came from my brain. I guess it's true, it's always been this way, sort of. A little over a year ago I bought a RavPower battery pack that serves as an emergency car jumpstarted and as a charging brick for many devices. It not only came with USB ports but also about a dozen different round plug adapters for different PC power cables. For fun I searched the house for devices that might utilize these adapters and came up completely empty.
 
Steve Jobs was flawed being human but we wouldn't have any of of this if not for him. What have you done in your life that was so except bitch on an internet forum about someone you could never hope to be close to in accomplishments?
By the way it was jobs who's aid the first mac should be much cheaper, Sculley upped the price. I can give you tit for tat on every one of your dumb points.
 
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