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But every iphone before the X was an object of modern beauty?

It's a personal preference, but no not exactly. I felt the 6/7/8 design was dated as well. I did enjoy my matte black 7 Plus though. Now that modern phones are ditching the top and bottom bezel, the Note just looks dated. I suppose I understand why they did it though, they can't put the front facing camera under the screen yet, can't do a notch considering they mocked it, and they can't afford to manufacture the bent OLED on the bottom like Apple did with the X. They put themselves in this position.
 
Seems like the Samsung "9" series are just incremental upgrades over the "8" from last year. I don't think these will sell either.

There's a really good chance that Samsung will add the notch to next year's 10s.

These watches look like cheap Casio/plastic watches though. I'm not feeling the design.
 
Yeah they are very desperate.

Makes sense. Their flagship phones simply aren't selling this year and they have informed investors to expect that to continue into the 4th quarter. I expect Samsung to make major changes next year, although I am not sure how it will turn out. If they can't get the front facing camera and touch ID under the screen, I think they'll be screwed again.
 
Makes sense. Their flagship phones simply aren't selling this year and they have informed investors to expect that to continue into the 4th quarter. I expect Samsung to make major changes next year, although I am not sure how it will turn out. If they can't get the front facing camera and touch ID under the screen, I think they'll be screwed again.
They need a notch, if they implement the notch they will shatter sales records.
 
That’s a nice lineup but if Apple launches three iPhones and new iPad Pros plus Apple Watch 4, and new MacBook/MacBook Air, they’ll crush the tech industry.
 
It's a personal preference, but no not exactly. I felt the 6/7/8 design was dated as well. I did enjoy my matte black 7 Plus though. Now that modern phones are ditching the top and bottom bezel, the Note just looks dated. I suppose I understand why they did it though, they can't put the front facing camera under the screen yet, can't do a notch considering they mocked it, and they can't afford to manufacture the bent OLED on the bottom like Apple did with the X. They put themselves in this position.

Would you be upset if the notch disappeared?
Would it be an aesthetic step backwards?
 
Would you be upset if the notch disappeared?
Would it be an aesthetic step backwards?
Of course he would. The Note 9 doesn't have a notch so it's outdated the same way iphone 8's design is outdated, the same level or outdate :)
 
I can't help but think that if Samsung introduced the notch first, most of you would have mocked it incessantly. But because Apple did it first, its the best thing ever.
 
I can't help but think that if Samsung introduced the notch first, most of you would have mocked it incessantly. But because Apple did it first, its the best thing ever.

Bearing in mind the the Essential phone was first....
 
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That's a personal preference, but I personally disagree. I find the Note 9 design is ugly and dated.
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I suppose, but I don't think trying to copy Apple's look and feel is the way to go. On one hand, they mock Apple, then they try to be like Apple? Conflicting for their base I am sure. In the end, you are correct though - you might as well emulate the company dominating the industry.

You’re looking at it from an American view. Try to look at it from a Korean view or from an open mind if you can

At one point prior, Samsung was doing well across its industries. It’s only as of the last few years, partly due to the success of westernization and marketing, that a lot of people yearn even greater for western made products. In addition, Samsung’s internal battles really hurt their consumer businesses.

The cultural effect that US has on many Asian countries is paramount and often times misunderstood. Hollywood and celebrities are the capital of global culture.

Having worked with Samsung in Korea for a period of time, much of their decisioning makes sense when you see it from that angle.
 
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I can't help but think that if Samsung introduced the notch first, most of you would have mocked it incessantly. But because Apple did it first, its the best thing ever.
Well Samsung did patent the notch first.
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You’re looking at it from an American view. Try to look at it from a Korean view or from an open mind if you can

At one point prior, Samsung was doing well across its industries. It’s only as of the last few years, partly due to the success of westernization and marketing, that a lot of people yearn even greater for western made products. In addition, Samsung’s internal battles really hurt their consumer businesses.

The cultural effect that US has on many Asian countries is paramount and often times misunderstood. Hollywood and celebrities are the capital of global culture.

Having worked with Samsung in Korea for a period of time, much of their decisioning makes sense when you see it from that angle.
It's doesn't matter the worse Samsung does the better it is for us consumer and that would put Apple in trouble.
Samsung is slowly being forced to be more competitive then they currently are. That's a good thing.
 
It's a personal preference, but no not exactly. I felt the 6/7/8 design was dated as well. I did enjoy my matte black 7 Plus though. Now that modern phones are ditching the top and bottom bezel, the Note just looks dated. I suppose I understand why they did it though, they can't put the front facing camera under the screen yet, can't do a notch considering they mocked it, and they can't afford to manufacture the bent OLED on the bottom like Apple did with the X. They put themselves in this position.


Apple didn't bend the OLED display. The flex cable overlaps itself to feed the display controller. The display is still a very standard OLED unit.
 
Apple didn't bend the OLED display. The flex cable overlaps itself to feed the display controller. The display is still a very standard OLED unit.

But the marketing photo looks pretty ;)

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Apple didn't bend the OLED display. The flex cable overlaps itself to feed the display controller. The display is still a very standard OLED unit.

Incorrect, the OLED is bent. It's not standard at all and it's an expensive process. That's why no one else has been able to replicate.

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What exactly are they copying?

They have their own design language, but basically the look and feel of the entire Apple ecosystem - same products, same marketing materials, same price points, same keynotes, same packaging. Not to say that anything is wrong with this, of course you are going to try and copy the dominant player in the industry - I would just respect them more if they did things a little bit differently. Looking at everything, it feels just like Apple - only in black.
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You’re looking at it from an American view. Try to look at it from a Korean view or from an open mind if you can

At one point prior, Samsung was doing well across its industries. It’s only as of the last few years, partly due to the success of westernization and marketing, that a lot of people yearn even greater for western made products. In addition, Samsung’s internal battles really hurt their consumer businesses.

The cultural effect that US has on many Asian countries is paramount and often times misunderstood. Hollywood and celebrities are the capital of global culture.

Having worked with Samsung in Korea for a period of time, much of their decisioning makes sense when you see it from that angle.

Eh, maybe - I guess those are fair points. The challenge for them is that Huawei is going to win out in the East, while Apple will dominate the West. I am trying to see where Samsung fits in here.
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Would you be upset if the notch disappeared?
Would it be an aesthetic step backwards?

No, of course not. It's a technological necessity right now. Once Apple can put the front facing camera, etc. under the screen, the notch will be gone. In it's current form though, it doesn't bother me at all.
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They need a notch, if they implement the notch they will shatter sales records.

I don't think sales will improve for them with a notch. If they put the front facing tech and touch ID under the screen, yes for sure. Their sales will improve.
 
Dude stop spreading misinformation what you are saying is not even remotely true. Both Apple and Samsung implemetation are hard to crack, without using advanced methods to achieve the results.
Can you use the Samsung implementation for financial transactions? The last I heard it was so easy to crack that Samsung wouldn’t let you. Or did that change?
 
FYI... If you’re going to link an article to debate someone about Face ID for others to read, it would behoove you to at least make sure it’s in English, as likely very few can translate a foreign language on an English translated website. Otherwise, you’re argument is moot without reading your link appropriately.
If I can speak and write in english (non native language) people should at least be able to use google translator..... or even chrome who does everything for you :).

But of course it is easier to dismiss it as "if I can't read it it must be wrong or useless".

Not my fault if foreing media don't report everything that happens in Italy, understandable, but not my fault :)
 
Well Samsung did patent the notch first.
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It's doesn't matter the worse Samsung does the better it is for us consumer and that would put Apple in trouble.
Samsung is slowly being forced to be more competitive then they currently are. That's a good thing.

Agreed with competition. I am not saying that Samsung sucks or is great. I am only explaining the rationale for why Samsung might be perceived as "copying".

I am trying to see where Samsung fits in here.

Samsung has had a consumer sector for a very long time. Their consumer bread and butter is currently mobile. With that being said even if it seems Samsung is currently just mimicking, there will be future product owners in future generations to come that will genuinely innovate.
 
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