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Well I’ve seen several videos where iris scanning and face scan gets fooled by a picture.

The tech. Inside Face ID is only going to get better. It’s MUCH more advanced.
OK show me 3 distinct videos where Samsung's recent Iris scanners(and I do mean the Iris Scanner specifically) were "fooled by a picture". I bet on deleting my forum account that you can't.
 
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still over saturated screen android and not edge to edge screen no thanks Samsung carry on having a go at apple cos you will never be as good

Saturation has been adjustable on galaxy smartphones since the galaxy s4. There is a basic mode which gives the screen a natural tone.
 
It's not "his opinion", Face ID is better.

It is better because it hasn't been cracked by the community and verified by the community of security researchers (don't give me crap about someone that claims they have made a mask and gave vague information, with nobody replicating the methods anywhere else).

And it's better because it works more times, after a bath, with the fingers dirty/sweaty, with gloves, etc.
It can be fooled quite easily, even by non relatives...
https://www.corriere.it/tecnologia/...si-10a53b32-9a7b-11e8-b29e-fbb2c6c2bbaf.shtml
 
$1,000 base model, huh? I remember a year ago when the iPhone X was announced to have a $1,000 price tag. Wonder how many Samsung fans were scoffing at Apple and making fun of anyone they thought dumb enough to buy a thousand-dollar phone.

Now they’re all keeping their mouths shut.

The iPhone X is a mid range phone for $1000, that’s the difference

Less memory, less storage, smaller lower res screen, no S pen, no expandable storage, no headphone jack, bigger battery.....etc

Not saying any of that necessarily makes for a better phone, but at least with the Note 9, you know you are, at least on the hardware front getting plenty for your money.
 
I prefer the term “desktop alternative” rather than “desktop replacement”. As in, the value proposition of mobile devices should be in letting you do things differently (and consequently, better) than how it was done on a PC, not by trying to ape it altogether.
If you don’t have a desktop then it can be a desktop replacement depending on what you want to do on a computer. Just like how the iPad can be a laptop replacement depending on what your computing needs are.
 
Can someone please educate me on how different Android phones using the same Snapdragon 845 chip can have different benchmark scores?

Just saw today the One Plus 6, which seems an excellent phone all round for the money has higher geekbench scores than this new Note 9, which is a bit embarrassing seeing as the Note is twice the price.

I'm not saying the Note is not better in almost all departments than the One Plus 6. It should be, as I said it's twice the price. However they both use the same Chipset, so how come the OnePlus is faster?

Is it simply down to the added customization that Samsung adds, which places extra background? loading on the system in general and causes things to run slower?

I'm genuinely interested and would love to know why.
 
This phone is so impressive. Huge screen, water-resistant, expandable storage and huge internal memory yet still keeps the headphone jack.

If I had the option I would get one for sure, but I think I'll hold off until the 10!
 
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What, are you 7??
LoL I generally feel like I'm surrounded by 7 year olds on this thread.
It crazy how many users here try to contradict me while outright misinterpreting why I wrote, being misinform about the things they claim to show I'm wrong or simply not understanding the things they are talking about(confusing iris scanning with facial recognition being very common) and so on.
The reaction I've got for posting a link to Samsung's website(with the intent to prove that iris scanning can be used for mobile payments, it can even be user with Knox as well which I bet most apple fans here don't know what it is) is quite telling and shows how good the compressions skills of some users is on this forum.
 
Can someone please educate me on how different Android phones using the same Snapdragon 845 chip can have different benchmark scores?

Just saw today the One Plus 6, which seems an excellent phone all round for the money has higher geekbench scores than this new Note 9, which is a bit embarrassing seeing as the Note is twice the price.

I'm not saying the Note is not better in almost all departments than the One Plus 6. It should be, as I said it's twice the price. However they both use the same Chipset, so how come the OnePlus is faster?

Is it simply down to the added customization that Samsung adds, which places extra background? loading on the system in general and causes things to run slower?

I'm genuinely interested and would love to know why.
I think it’s because of the skin. Whatever skin is on the phone can make it run slower or faster.
 
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The iPhone X is a mid range phone for $1000, that’s the difference

Less memory, less storage, smaller lower res screen, no S pen, no expandable storage, no headphone jack, bigger battery.....etc

Not saying any of that necessarily makes for a better phone, but at least with the Note 9, you know you are, at least on the hardware front getting plenty for your money.
Yeah some users can be as bitter as they want but the Note 9 is at the top of the food chain when it comes to hardware and software features. The Note 9 is very very expensive(too expensive I might add) but at least you get 128gb base and any other feature you can think of. It is a true power house and it's not more expensive than the smaller and more bare bones iphone x.
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Can someone please educate me on how different Android phones using the same Snapdragon 845 chip can have different benchmark scores?
Because Geekbench is a very consistent test. Even if you run it on the same phone multiple times you rarely get the same scores, at most you can hope for small differences in scores.
 
The iPhone X is a mid range phone for $1000, that’s the difference

Less memory, less storage, smaller lower res screen, no S pen, no expandable storage, no headphone jack, bigger battery.....etc

Not saying any of that necessarily makes for a better phone, but at least with the Note 9, you know you are, at least on the hardware front getting plenty for your money.

You just contradicted yourself there. What’s the point of better paper specs if they don’t make for a better phone?

I am reminded of the time when the A7 chip was universally ridiculed for having just 2 cores, until anandtech broke down why having two faster cores was better in a smartphone than 4 slower and more power-hungry ones.

Specs are the means, user experience is the end.

With the iPhone, what I am paying for isn’t just raw specs in a vacuum, but for Apple’s expertise in integrating all these hardware, software and services together into a cohesive whole. In a way that the competition never could.

Rattle off that long laundry list of hardware specs all you want. It will make no difference in the end.
 
If you don’t have a desktop then it can be a desktop replacement depending on what you want to do on a computer. Just like how the iPad can be a laptop replacement depending on what your computing needs are.

The main reason I prefer an iPad is because it is better at doing the things I do on it relative to a laptop (and even desktop). Where “better” refers to factors such as portability, ease of use, and intuitiveness which can be hard to quantify, but are legitimate advantages nevertheless.

If the iPad can replace my laptop, then it’s because the laptop was never an ideal fit for my computing needs to begin with. And this works because the iPad doesn’t try too hard to be a laptop replacement in the first place.

If there are people here using Dex in innovative ways, or have seen it in use, I would like to hear of them. Because as far as I can see, it’s dead in the water.
 
Don't really care about screen to body ratio. Still have thick forehead and chin (like the phones of the past) And the curved sides are just an illusion to hide the bezel (and distort the view)
Yeah, the notch doesnt distort the view at all...
 
The main reason I prefer an iPad is because it is better at doing the things I do on it relative to a laptop (and even desktop). Where “better” refers to factors such as portability, ease of use, and intuitiveness which can be hard to quantify, but are legitimate advantages nevertheless.

If the iPad can replace my laptop, then it’s because the laptop was never an ideal fit for my computing needs to begin with. And this works because the iPad doesn’t try too hard to be a laptop replacement in the first place.

If there are people here using Dex in innovative ways, or have seen it in use, I would like to hear of them. Because as far as I can see, it’s dead in the water.
I think some people are finding it useful but it will never gain traction in the same way as an iPad. It’s quite a niche product. Probably more relevant for people who can’t afford to have a mobile phone and a computer and so use their mobile phone as their only computer.

I prefer my iPad to my laptop because like you said it’s portable and easy to use. However I still like my MBA.
 
Yeah, the notch doesnt distort the view at all...

iPhone X does not distort the view. It does cover a bit but there is difference between distroting and covering. And Galaxy phones do distort the view on both sides.
There is a good reason why no other major company have followed that silly curved edge design. It may look cool but I don't think it serves no purpose and it can be distracting.
 
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The iPhone X is a mid range phone for $1000, that’s the difference

Less memory, less storage, smaller lower res screen, no S pen, no expandable storage, no headphone jack, bigger battery.....etc

Not saying any of that necessarily makes for a better phone, but at least with the Note 9, you know you are, at least on the hardware front getting plenty for your money.

You are mistaken. If you're comparing specs for specs, then the iPhone X has been proven faster than this brand new Note 9:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/galaxy-note-9-benchmarks,news-27773.html
 
I’m not saying it’s not secure enough. Personally, I would use it and not worry about it. But it’s not better than Face ID, sorry.

Even Samsung admits it when it doesn't allow it to secure Samsung Pay and requires their "S

That's BS.

Everyone knows the trick.

Face ID ré-learns a person's face after failing to recognize the face and the user inputting the unlock code.

After a couple of manual unlocks, it starts opening with other faces.
 
You just contradicted yourself there. What’s the point of better paper specs if they don’t make for a better phone?

I am reminded of the time when the A7 chip was universally ridiculed for having just 2 cores, until anandtech broke down why having two faster cores was better in a smartphone than 4 slower and more power-hungry ones.

Specs are the means, user experience is the end.

With the iPhone, what I am paying for isn’t just raw specs in a vacuum, but for Apple’s expertise in integrating all these hardware, software and services together into a cohesive whole. In a way that the competition never could.

Rattle off that long laundry list of hardware specs all you want. It will make no difference in the end.
And after Anandtech did what you said Apple went ahead and switched to the other side (i.e. increased the number of cores and started using big-little architecture). So it looks like Anandtech (and you) was wrong.
 
iPhone X does not distort the view. It does cover a bit but there is difference between distroting and covering. And Galaxy phones do distort the view on both sides.
There is a good reason why no other major company have followed that silly curved edge design. It may look cool but I don't think it serves no purpose and it can be distracting.

I and that's why you hear the reviewers complaining about the distortion right?
And Raymond from displaymate found the distortion so bad that he made then the best phone displays at the time of release, successively....
 
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