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Hands-On With the New iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro Max

shpankey said:
Wow, liquid metal sounds like some Terminator 2 awesomeness. Lol. Those all would be an incredible upgrade I would line up for day 1. I agree it would reestablish even more confidence in their innovation leadership role.
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Apple has had exclusive rights to use LiquidMetal, they have been using it to some degree with the SIM ejector tool. I am not sure if Qi is capable with LiquidMetal, however RF is not an issue. It would certainly make they products more durable compared to glass and the bendy 3rd Gen iPad Pro.
 
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dannyyankou said:
Oh good point there. I thought they were talking about bilateral wireless charging.

But 3D touch wasn’t utilized much anyway.
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3D Touch was not utilized by many because of fragmentation and poor implementation. It was not available on SE phones, iPad etc. So naturally people either did not know about it or just did not care enough about it as other devices did not have it. The human mind loves continuity, 3D Touch lacked it, I personally am a fan of it and sad to see it go but whatever hope Haptic is better incorporated system wide.
 
mi7chy said:
That's only the cost of a cup of coffee per day.
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Yeah, but, are you actually going to forego the $3 cup of coffee if you buy the iPhone? I suspect not. I suspect most of us are going to buy the coffee anyway AND have the more expensive phone.
Maybe it’s still worth it, but that argument kind of ignores how these costs accumulate.
 
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SuperMatt said:
I am in the iPhone upgrade program. I stopped by the Apple store today to look at the new phones. The colors of the 11 look more "pastel" than they do online. I found that I liked the glossy glass on the back of the iPhone 11 more than the matte on the pro. However, I like the stainless steel frame better than the aluminum. In the end, I decided to save $15 a month compared to the fee for my XS and go for a red iPhone 11 64GB.
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That’s not possible. I read repeatedly on here that nobody could ever buy the 64GB because it is too little memory for anyone.
 
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cmaier said:
That’s not possible. I read repeatedly on here that nobody could ever buy the 64GB because it is too little memory for anyone.
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For the Pro model and the price, yes it is too little storage. To make matters interesting both the 11 and Pro have 4GB RAM. Value for hardware the 11 is the better deal in 2019.
 
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fishmongerer said:
The 7+ is a great phone.
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7+ has Wide and Telephoto Cameras, while 11 has Wide and Ultra Wide, or depends if you prefer Zoom In or Out plus higher resolution. It all depends if the other features are worth it to you such as FaceID, Qi, 2 more GB of RAM, A13, Stereo Speakers, no headphone jack, etc.
 
wolfie said:
This is one of the most tired ‘for’ arguments.

Or you can NOT spend that cost of coffee per day and put it towards
-retirement
-shares
-annual holiday
-budget to fix or improve your home
-emergency fund
-send that money to Africa and feed poor children (because that’s the argument that industry uses, but the vast majority ain’t interested, but why, it’s only the cost of coffee?)
- next years iPhone
-other subscription services (same argument as above)
-other things

The point I’m trying to make, the cost of coffee arguement is rubbish, because there are other ways to redirect your money without having the latest and greatest. I’m a medical doctor, so I have the money, the question put forward is the value of upgrading. Some posters in this thread reasonably justify it, some give a balanced opinion.

Apple WANTS YOU to just see it as a cost of coffee. They are, amongst so many other industries, trying to hoodwink you into believing it’s not something you will notice on a daily basis. Problem is, when you spend small amounts every day, it all adds up and you start blowing your cash on unnecessary things. Argue all you want, the latest and greatest iPhone is not a necessity, but a want.

For the record, I’m still on the fence to upgrade, but the cost of coffee argument just irks me.

EDIT: ironically enough, people who see it as a cost of coffee per day are the types who most likely still purchase at least a coffee per day, rather than having the discipline to replace it.
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Get over yourself. Everything you say is obvious to anybody over the age of 5.
 
wolfie said:
ironically enough, people who see it as a cost of coffee per day are the types who most likely still purchase at least a coffee per day, rather than having the discipline to replace it.
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Sure, why not? And those same people might spend a similar amount on a gallon of gas a day. Or buy a snack, and many other things.

It's not an either-or. Unless you can't afford it. Many people can.
 
code-m said:
For the Pro model and the price, yes it is too little storage. To make matters interesting both the 11 and Pro have 4GB RAM. Value for hardware the 11 is the better deal in 2019.
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Unless you much prefer the smaller 5.8” size and / or are a screen nerd
 
ryanwarsaw said:
Get over yourself. Everything you say is obvious to anybody over the age of 5.
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And yet many many still go into needless debt, claim bankruptcy or beg others for financial support due to poor financial choices due to lack of education as you claim.
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smulji said:
Unless you much prefer the smaller 5.8” size and / or are a screen nerd
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I actually prefer the LCD vice OLED that Apple uses, plus 6.1” to 5.8” is a marginal difference that one just forgets about. Battery life is noticeable.
 
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citysnaps said:
Sure, why not? And those same people might spend a similar amount on a gallon of gas a day. Or buy a snack, and many other things.

It's not an either-or. Unless you can't afford it. Many people can.
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All those complaints about a $1K iPhone X or a $50 more XR compared to the 8+.
 
dfwiddoc said:
I’m guessing you didn’t buy one. If you did, you knew the specs and features well ahead of time. Can’t folks get therapists to vent their resentments on here? The grandstanding is tiresome. And where are these phones produced by all these innovative “competitors”? Ever tried navigating a clumsy Android phone? If you prefer exploding Samsungs or arcane manufacturers with folding keyboards, then why are you posting on an Apple-based forum?
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Making sure people know the specs and features of an iPhone before they get tricked into buying one.
 
macfacts said:
Making sure people know the specs and features of an iPhone before they get tricked into buying one.
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- that’s a dim view of human kind and,
- why do you care how people spend their money
- people will do what they do, I’m sure Apple has already sold a boat load of phones to “ill informed and unsuspecting” customers.;)
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code-m said:
And yet many many still go into needless debt, claim bankruptcy or beg others for financial support due to poor financial choices due to lack of education as you...
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Mac rumors posters are not the gatekeepers, thankfully, to how the general populace spends their money. Strictly a personal decision.
 
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agsystems said:
I am freaking loving this IP 11 Max but 10 seconds after taking it out of the box and putting a case on it and I feel is too heavy- way heavier than my previous 8+. I am all for more battery but I don't know what they are going to do next year with the tech we are expecting to get
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All of the iPhones from 2018-19 are significantly bigger and heavier than the 6-8 and the plus series.

I’d say see if you can get used to it. Else the plain 11 could be a good compromise. Or go ‘old school’ and downsize to a 11P.
 
miniyou64 said:
So they removed features, continue to keep displays with PWM, iOS 13 is behind competitors in features and this has virtually the same design as phones from the past 2 years but this is supposed to be a “Pro” model? Wow.
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It's "pro" in the areas that matter to the people who will actually spend money on them (which is really the most important thing at the end of the day). Who cares what some random hater on the Internet thinks when they clearly have little intention of buying it regardless?
 
I just can't get myself to get rid of the SE. Easy 1-handed use. So easy to take a picture with hardware buttons without accidentally pressing the wrong one. And, so much more pleasant to hold. The new phones are so much heavier, close to 2x the SE.
 
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brandsteve said:
I have one friend who says his new 11 pro max stops charging at 80% with the fancy new 18w charger.
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This is a new feature in IOS 13 to extent the battery life. You can switch it of in the battery settings.
It's always good to load a battery only through 80%...
 
I agree with CNET reviewer, Scott Stein when he says the camera looks dystopian. I've got a liquid crystal case to drive the point home. Big Brother is watching you.
 
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