it's just a pretty piece of jewelry on my wrist,
So.... kinda like an Rolex or Omega?
Sorry you're in a fringe reception area where it doesn't seem to be working for you. Hopefully a new version or local cell improvements will change things for you.
it's just a pretty piece of jewelry on my wrist,
Well i held both in my hand at the same time and opened the same apps and there was little to no difference between the two in my estimation. Never said the difference from the S0 to the S3 was not ridiculous. Nor did i compare the two. You seem to be confusing yourself with that fact. I directly compared a S2 with a S3. I held both in my hand and opened the same apps on each unit and there was very little to zero difference in opening the apps and using them between the two watches. I am not saying the series 3 isn’t faster it is. I didn’t feel there was enough of a real world difference between the two.
In reality there is very little difference in real world usage between them as far as opening apps and real world usage. That is to me in my opinion. I considered the red dot annoying so i returned the series 3.
I like the black onyx crown which you can find on a traditional watch over the cheaper plastic red one. I like the apple watch for the fact that apple incorporated alot of elements of traditional watch making in the apple watch. That is what impressed me initially and continue to impress me with the series 2. Hopefully they fix this in the next version of the watch.Like the way the crown mimics a traditional screw down crown, like the build quality of the 316L steel and yes the black onyx not plastic crown. If you are not a watch collector you likely would not notice nor appreciate those fine touches that apple has made.
Now did they just try and save money or was it function over form? I dont know but i personally did not like it. To each their own. Enjoy your red dot in good health.

Just don't go though the set up cellular and voila, you have no cellular just gps, 16 gb and wifi, when it works. The wifi is having a terrible time unfortunatelyCan I buy the LTE and NOT use it as LTE ? just the bluetooth ?
maybe later I get the cellular plan if I want to get it ?
I do fancy the red knob.
Again most of you folks don't have the problem that I have experience in 2 days, unable to connect to known wifi networks to actually use it independently of my iPhone, so no, the wifi calling isn't working because it won't connect properly to a known wifi network, instead it seems to get stuck in a loop of never ending not finding a valid wifiI’m not sure this is the problem they’re trying to fix. What they’re trying to fix is the watch having no connection when it’s out and about because it’s connecting to poor WiFi connections. It will always connect to trusted WiFi connections....much like your phone does. Otherwise it’d use data needlessly and the battery would plummet.
Anyway...don’t you have WiFi calling?
Sometimes, but it's still fighting with every know wifi network if your LTE/Cellular isn't working wellCan someone advise if third party notifications come in when on LTE and away from the watch. Do you receive Facebook , WhatsApp , CNN, Gmail notifications etc
We can only hope it is sooner than later, the Series 3 becomes a big lump of steel and sapphire on my wrist in the meantime.Listen I have talked to apple about my phone being off at home and the watch connecting to wifi and not LTE.. they said that this issue along with the unauthorized connecting will be fixed in the software update.
Not enough places in NYC take Apple Pay for it to be much more than an occasional payment option. But interesting to use a digital lock. That would be nice.
I'm probably going to upgrade my Series 0 Apple Watch with a 3, but likely not the LTE version. I like having my phone with me because of all its huge amount of functionality. So even though I wouldn't notice the extra $10 per month on my cell bill, it just seems like a waste of money.
People who’s first response is “I always have my phone with me” will never understand what you are trying to say here. Not being able to mindlessly stare into a phone at mission critical stuff like FB at every opportunity is completely unfathomable in this day and age.
Just don't go though the set up cellular and voila, you have no cellular just gps, 16 gb and wifi, when it works. The wifi is having a terrible time unfortunately
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Again most of you folks don't have the problem that I have experience in 2 days, unable to connect to known wifi networks to actually use it independently of my iPhone, so no, the wifi calling isn't working because it won't connect properly to a known wifi network, instead it seems to get stuck in a loop of never ending not finding a valid wifi
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Sometimes, but it's still fighting with every know wifi network if your LTE/Cellular isn't working well
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We can only hope it is sooner than later, the Series 3 becomes a big lump of steel and sapphire on my wrist in the meantime.
There are vendors selling all colors of dot stickers you can use to cover it up..
I personally like the red dot though.
Your grandfather was wrong.my grandfather always told me - only 3 types of watches. Disposable, Dress and the ones you buy to leave your grandkids.
A $399 chunky gadget watch made in Taiwan is non of those. well, unless you the kind of person who thinks coca-cola is a dinner drink.
I’m sure the series 3 could handle that now for a few hours on a night out right ?I guess at this point the LTE is just... the equivalent of sticking the marker in the ground to say you got there. I don't think the functionality within the watch is entirely sufficient yet to make it something you can use entirely standalone, but I have no doubt that Apple will continue to refine it and improve it substantially over the next few years. I'm sure a lot of people would be happy enough to get to the point on a night out to leave the phone at home and just have their watch which could handle calls, messages, Uber, payments, etc..
my grandfather always told me - only 3 types of watches. Disposable, Dress and the ones you buy to leave your grandkids.
A $399 chunky gadget watch made in Taiwan is non of those. well, unless you the kind of person who thinks coca-cola is a dinner drink.
My great-grandfather told me there’s only three types of horse-drawn vehicle. Trap, Cart, and Carriage.my grandfather always told me - only 3 types of watches. Disposable, Dress and the ones you buy to leave your grandkids.
A $399 chunky gadget watch made in Taiwan is non of those. well, unless you the kind of person who thinks coca-cola is a dinner drink.
Yeah but it does not work when I am too far away in the commode.I want.
But my damn Original Apple Watch keeps working flawlessly!
Apple... makes your phone thinner (so the camera protrudes) and your watch thicker. Reason#1 I wouldn't buy a smart watch: thickness - reason #2 battery runtime.macrumors said:Design wise, the new Apple Watch LTE models are almost identical to the Series 2 models, with the exception of a 0.25mm thicker back glass
Again my experience was a nightmare setting up Cellular, further the wifi doesn't work well at all and certainly not alone. The whole experience with the Cellular since I'm in a spotty area is a disaster. Most of the time it won't work, the wifi, never seems to work and if my phone isn't in proximity it's just a pretty piece of jewelry on my wrist, I'm reverting to my Series 0 until I see some serious improvements..
Thanks for the catch. I was wondering about that . . . hmmm . . . so I get my wife the new iPhone, I take over her iPhone 6, and move to the Apple Watch (though I'd still be spending over $1000 for all that . . . grrr . . .).You might want to be careful with the model you buy. Looking at the requirements for the new 3 series:
- Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) requires an iPhone 6 or later with iOS 11 or later. Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS) requires an iPhone 5s or later with iOS 11 or later. Apple Watch Series 1 requires an iPhone 5s or later with iOS 11 or later.
https://www.apple.com/watch/compare/
I'm currently using an original S0 AW with my iPhone 5s and was thinking about upgrading to the series 3 AW. I currently have the SBSS(space black stainless steel) version and wanted another SBSS AW. I don't care about the LTE functions, but the SS watches are only available as LTE models. I guess this means that I can't use it even though I won't use the LTE functions.
I would like a speed boost from my original AW and the GPS would come in handy. Maybe I'll just search around for a SBSS series 2 model instead. (I don't want an aluminum AW.)
or get a samsung gear fit with 48hrs battery, GPS and online music storage. Everything you actually need all for around £79Thanks for the catch. I was wondering about that . . . hmmm . . . so I get my wife the new iPhone, I take over her iPhone 6, and move to the Apple Watch (though I'd still be spending over $1000 for all that . . . grrr . . .).
I guess I hit it lucky here in Toronto. Everyone accepts Apple Pay — from the large stores to the local food truck. Anywhere that accepts card payments (which is pretty much any business) also accepts ApplePay. It’s ubiquitous.
Oh, and adding an LTE Apple Watch to my plan is only $5... Canadian.
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Right. It’s not like I’m deciding to go back to 1995 and giving up on the opportunity to have the power of the internet on me at all times. What I’m giving up — voluntarily — is wasting my time on useless activities that having a screen in my pocket inevitably leads to. My eyes will be in front of me, looking at the world around me, not at a screen.
For specialized information like news for example, WatchOS apps are very capable of keeping me just as connected as if I were on an iPhone but the fact that it’s on my wrist and on a small screen with only the most important information presented, means that my interactions will be brief, limited to only getting the necessary information I’m looking for and then lowering my wrist and returning to being present.
As a replacement for having a burning question that needs answers right away, Siri can handle the majority of questions I’d need to know on my day to day. Apple has always aimed at having Siri become the “find me an answer” to Google’s “find me a list of sites that might have answers”. I think the former is better.
Finally, Siri’s AI can predict what info I’ll need to know when I need to know it. That’s the point of a digital assistant. And Siri as a digital assistant is a better experience on watchOS 4 than it is on the iPhone.