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But there are no benefits from using LTE when WiFi is available, only negatives. So, very sensibly, Apple decided that the watch would prioritise WiFi connections where available.

This watch will absolutely not work as you would like it to so I would return it if I were you.
This is why apple is in the process of fixing that...they recognize that LTE means LTE, and maybe in the software fix they will add the ability to turn off wifi? And apple technical has advised me that this is an issue they will fix!! so maybe you should return your watch?
 
no not true.. apple has clarified that the LTE will only work in the country that the watch is registered in!
That is exactly what I said. The lte wont work outside of your home county but the watch will not stop functioning. It will still do everything it did before except for being able to access lte service.
 
This is why apple is in the process of fixing that...they recognize that LTE means LTE, and maybe in the software fix they will add the ability to turn off wifi? And apple technical has advised me that this is an issue they will fix!! so maybe you should return your watch?



No. That’s not the widely reported issue that they’re trying to fix. You’ve misunderstood.
 
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EXACTLY. Please preach on. Either phone is flopping in my pocket or I have to strap on a backpack to throw it in. Ready to leave it home only missing more tons of music to choose from
as you can see from my posts and replies there are those who simple cannot deal with that, they want the phone and watch with them and just buy the products because apple made them, more than its functionality? So why did apple add LTE just for the hell of it? No, for people like those that you mentioned and others who want to leave the phone behind if need be, and the device can be on LTE!
 
Smartphones are so useful, that I really never leave the house without mine. So I think the LTE feature for a relatively tech heavy niche item is kind of pointless. Or at least not worth spending $10 per month for the LTE feature. I guess runners might leave their phone at home and want the watch. But when I run, I use a running belt in which I put my phone, keys and a few emergency dollars. My keys and a few dollars are kind of non-negotiable, so if I'm using a running belt, I might as well stick my phone in there. At that point, why use the the LTE version?

Sadly Apple does not seem to have a full spread of non-LTE version because even if I buy the LTE version, I don't expect to regularly be signed up with my carrier for the watch. Oh well.

I’ve replaced my keys and my “emergency dollars” with an August lock and ApplePay, both of which live in my iPhone and soon, my AppleWatch.

When I leave the house, I leave with nothing in my pockets, just my iPhone. No keys, no cash, no credit card, not even a wallet. With LTE on the AppleWatch, I won’t need the iPhone either.
 
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as you can see from my posts and replies there are those who simple cannot deal with that, they want the phone and watch with them and just buy the products because apple made them, more than its functionality? So why did apple add LTE just for the heel of it? No, for people like the that you mentioned and others who want to leave the phone behind if need be, and the device can be on LTE!

Only when there’s no WiFi available. ;)
 
No. That’s not the widely reported issue that they’re trying to fix. You’ve misunderstood.
Listen I have talked to apple about my phone being off at home and the watch connecting to wifi and not LTE.. they said that this issue along with the unauthorized connecting will be fixed in the software update.
 
Listen I have talked to apple about my phone being off at home and the watch connecting to wifi and not LTE.. they said that this issue along with the unauthorized connecting will be fixed in the software update.

You spoke to some guy on the phone who doesn’t have a clue what Apple are or aren’t doing.

You must be the only person on the planet who wants this massive step back in functionality!
 
You spoke to some guy on the phone who doesn’t have a clue what Apple are or aren’t doing.

You must be the only person on the planet who wants this massive step back in functionality!
it was escalated to a senior tech so I doubt that. we will see how it is dealt with?
Step back? please read others comments they want to ditch there phone. And Major reviewers did not like that it looked for wifi connections whether authorized or not?
 
Yeah. But your return period will be up soon. I’m just worried you’ll be stuck with something you don’t like
 
Yeah. But your return period will be up soon. I’m just worried you’ll be stuck with something you don’t like
Tongue and cheek? Not to worry I will return it if this fix is not done within the 14days!
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Answer. No it does not.

Please read the article I linked to. The info you see is in the opening paragraph.

“If your cellular carrier offers Wi-Fi calling, you can use Apple Watch to make and receive calls over Wi-Fi instead of the cellular network—even when your paired iPhone is not with you or is turned off. “
got it..would appreciate it if you would not continue to address any of my posts..thanks
 
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But, he said the Apple Watch was none of those. And, if true, it’s only partially true. If not an heirloom, all watches are disposable at some point. “Dress” watches quit working or become outdated looking. People spend a couple to a few hundred dollars on “dress” watches and only wear them once in a while.

You’re splitting hairs. A smartwatch is as near to being a disposable watch as there is. Basically all consumer electronics are ultimately disposable Smartphones and now the smartwatch are the epitome of consumerism, I.e no one wants or anticipates / expects them to last or be desired after a mere few years. His grandfather was right.
 
my grandfather always told me - only 3 types of watches. Disposable, Dress and the ones you buy to leave your grandkids.

A $399 chunky gadget watch made in Taiwan is non of those. well, unless you the kind of person who thinks coca-cola is a dinner drink.

Then buy the non-sport models?
 
The red dot sticks out like a sore thumb. Anyone else hopes it gets removed for Series 4?
I don't like it either. My guess is that it'll be removed, but that series 4 will have some sort of a redesign to distinguish from previous models.
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my grandfather always told me - only 3 types of watches. Disposable, Dress and the ones you buy to leave your grandkids.

A $399 chunky gadget watch made in Taiwan is non of those. well, unless you the kind of person who thinks coca-cola is a dinner drink.

I'm not even sure what you mean by this. Other than insulting coke and those who drink it. Personally, I'm a water guy :cool:
 
Considering how short the battery life is being reported with the LTE version, I'm not sure that even if it worked well, it could be used for any long distance running/exercising.
Hopefully Apple will delve into the area of non contact near-field charging. Meaning you could wear a battery infused Watchband that would give you extra hours of juice.

But hopefully battery tech will improve in the next watch version if LTE proves to be a big inhibitor for most people.
 
You’re splitting hairs. A smartwatch is as near to being a disposable watch as there is. Basically all consumer electronics are ultimately disposable Smartphones and now the smartwatch are the epitome of consumerism, I.e no one wants or anticipates / expects them to last or be desired after a mere few years. His grandfather was right.
Not splitting hairs. Buying an Apple watch for $400 and wearing it every day makes more sense than buying a "dress" watch, hardly wearing it, then throwing it away one day. There are many people still wearing the original Apple watch after 2 1/2 years, and are still happy with it. They could update their watch every 2 to 4 years, wearing it every day, and it would be a smarter purchase than an heirloom that is hardly ever worn, and still one day disposed of, one way or another.
Just because you don't want one, doesn't make someone else wrong, or dumb for buying one. Just like it does not make you or someone's grandpa wrong for not buying one if you do not want one.
And...before you reply and say that you were not saying someone is wrong or dumb for buying one...you implied it.
Yes...you did.
 
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I took it to be elitist snobbery, and promptly ignored it.

Coca-Cola is often ordered at dinner in restaurants. And yeah, I do so occasionally myself. When you have a family with several kids, you tend not to peruse the wine list.... You're more worried about keeping the total tab somewhat reasonable.

The Apple watch is priced right at the point where it's not some junky Timex throw-away watch, but not spending big $'s for the sake of spending them on fashion statements either (unless you really wanted to, buying that first gold edition).

Like all Apple products, when you upgrade - your old one still has respectable resale value that helps offset the cost of replacement. So that's a consideration too. Nobody pays more than pennies for a cheap Casio or Timex if you want to resell one of those.


I don't like it either. My guess is that it'll be removed, but that series 4 will have some sort of a redesign to distinguish from previous models.
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I'm not even sure what you mean by this. Other than insulting coke and those who drink it. Personally, I'm a water guy :cool:
 
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All wireless phones are required to dial 911 and other emergency services even without a phone plan. Wonder if that applies to devices like the Apple Watch? If so maybe worth the upgrade regardless if one needs wireless all the time.
 
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All wireless phones are required to dial 911 and other emergency services even without a phone plan. Wonder if that applies to devices like the Apple Watch? If so maybe worth the upgrade regardless if one needs wireless all the time.
That is an excellent point. Never thought of that. And...in the U.S., the LTE version is only $30 more up front.
Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a pricing war on service for wearables, between U.S. carriers (probably started by T-Mobile), in the next year. I think a lot of people might regret not getting the LTE option when they made their purchase.
 
I’m just curious. Why are you “much happier”?
I had the connectivity issues with AT&T here in Chicago. After wasting half the day Friday on the phone with AT&T, and them giving me conflicting reasons on why it wasn't working, I returned it. It made me realize I didn't really need the LTE. Now I have a watch that is working and we had a half marathon in Chicago today. Being without LTE didn't matter or effect my run. Everything was still tracked. And the chances of me using it to make a phone call are slim to none.
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Why did you order it with LTE in the first place? Happier because you spent less money?

I thought I wanted the LTE but the frustration of setting it up and AT&T making it seem like it was my fault left a bad taste in my mouth. So yes happier because I spent less money and will save money (120 a year). I used the series 3 today for a half marathon and it filled my needs.


You can toggle cellular on and off, and it will honor your phones DND Serrings as well. I don’t like to be bothered with calls either, but for work / family medical (mom in assisted care) reasons, I need to be reachable for notifications or calls from select people. Really love the fact that I can truly travel light, without a phone, and still be reached as needed.

Only in my first full day, but being able to go out on a ride, with just my watch and headphones, is a really nice feeling! I will have to say, I am similar to other series 0 owners in feeling that watch is still quite capable! My only issue with it was the speed of some applications. Otherwise, battery life still gets me 1.5 days without issue, and still looks great!
 
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With all do respect to you and a few others, who want to carry the watch and your phone at all times, you should have purchased the wifi only watch! Apple technical has advised myself/others that if ones phone is turned off or one leaves the phone behind the default should be that the phone should switch to LTE by default and not try to connect to any wifi network whether authorized or unauthorized! That only makes sense since if you do not have the phone with you or it is turned off how are you able to receive calls? This is primarily an LTE smart watch with the ability to accept wifi connections!
Man, you don’t sound like have not talked to a apple person and seem ignorant of the actual capacity of the watch and that calls can now be rerouted through wifi (that’s what happens when the iPhone is on a wifi network, why should it be different for the watch).
Seems you either have not talked to Apple person or misheard them.
 
I’ve replaced my keys and my “emergency dollars” with an August lock and ApplePay, both of which live in my iPhone and soon, my AppleWatch.

When I leave the house, I leave with nothing in my pockets, just my iPhone. No keys, no cash, no credit card, not even a wallet. With LTE on the AppleWatch, I won’t need the iPhone either.

Not enough places in NYC take Apple Pay for it to be much more than an occasional payment option. But interesting to use a digital lock. That would be nice.

I'm probably going to upgrade my Series 0 Apple Watch with a 3, but likely not the LTE version. I like having my phone with me because of all its huge amount of functionality. So even though I wouldn't notice the extra $10 per month on my cell bill, it just seems like a waste of money.
 
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