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my grandfather always told me - only 3 types of watches. Disposable, Dress and the ones you buy to leave your grandkids.

A $399 chunky gadget watch made in Taiwan is non of those. well, unless you the kind of person who thinks coca-cola is a dinner drink.

Thanks for sharing. You’re so smart we all appreciate you chiming in and setting us straight.
 
For sure. While it might work for a sport watch, those of us who went with stainless steel, Hermes, etc. or who want to wear the Apple Watch in a boardroom-type situation simply couldn't do so with the red dot. And for those suggesting a Sharpie, that's not exactly the ideal solution with a nice watch. The red dot is an abomination and must be destroyed.

Ridiculous. It compliments the stainless black tastefully, and at worst, is unobtrusive on other models. A boardroom shouldn’t be populated by plebs with such parochial and pedestrian tastes.
 
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What it should do is when it connects to a wifi connection it should check to see if its an authenticated connection otherwise it should just stick to lte. I don't autjoin and the only wifi i connect to is my home so I don't have these issues buts its nice to see Apple will fix this via software.

That’s absolutely not how I’d like it to work! I don’t even want my phone on LTE if WiFi is available.
 
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I really like the way you think, especially reducing the temptation to fart around on your phone. Personally, I'd love to ditch my iPhone for something simpler, but then I'd need directions, or to call an Uber, or send a quick text. Like you said, the Watch can do all of that. You've reinvigorated my interest. I'm still using an iPhone 5S. Perhaps adding the watch and running the 5S a bit longer really is the way to go . . .

I have an iPhone 6 Plus. I was gonna get an iPhone 7 last year but held off. Now, iOS11 has made it painfully slow. It really needs to be replaced. But for the first time, I’m not considering buying a new iPhone but instead I’m getting a new lightening fast Apple Watch with LTE. I’ll keep the iPhone 6 Plus around for when I need an “iPad in my pocket”.
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If the AW3 can become your daily driver, you never needed a smartphone in the first place? Are you not concerned the your watch is probably a hourly driver rather than a daily driver given LTE drain on the battery?

I’m a heavy iPhone user. Up until now, my Apple Watch was too slow to replace it, even if I had to carry the iPhone in my pocket to keep the Watch connected. The conditions are now right where the Watch can accomplish those tasks. Siri can do a lot more than people give it credit for. I’ve used Siri as my main interaction with my iPhone over the past couple of years, even more so since I got my AirPods.

As for battery, as I’ve said before, I don’t sit there with my wrist raised interacting with my Watch for an hour, using LTE to download pictures and videos. The data requirements for the Apple Watch are far lower than a large screen device. The point is that I’ll use the Watch for micro interactions through the day and not waste my life behind a screen when I don’t need to. If my Series 0 Watch lasts me through the day with 30% battery left, the far more energy efficient Series 3 will be just fine, even with LTE used for small data packets.
 
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I’d assume so, although it really should be used in conjunction with AirPods/Phones.
It’s definitely louder than the original. I never answered calls on my series 0 watch unless I was in a quiet room because I couldn’t hear the other person. With series 3, I can hear the person in situations where I wouldn’t have been able to before. Like in the car with the window down on the highway.
 
Your grandfather over thought watches.

I am not sure he did! Read his post again, disposable, dress and something to pass on through the generations. (Just in case you don’t understand, that means a family heirloom rather than a version of a smart watch!)

The Apple Watch falls into the first category
 
I haven’t been following this product much, but just noticed that red dot on the crown. Is it a light? What does it do? It doesn’t really look very good.
 
That may be but others are experiencing this-when some are out/or at home and it finds a trusted wifi connection that you have been on before and it will drop the LTE. If you do not have your phone with you wifi calling does not function? People are very aware of the battery issue, they still purchased it primarily because of the LTE...if we wanted wifi primarily than we would have purchased just that model? Consumers want the choice to be able to choose from one or the other!!!! I called Apple last night and they said that this is a problem as well. Once the phone is turned off or left behind it should always be on LTE and not connect to wifi.
Well you see , that’s not how most people it to work unless you love very poor battery life. It should be able to connect to wifi’s with good internet access and those you trust as an alternate. It should use the most efficient connection it can find to get the job done

Also, in some buildings and locations like my work place and my cottage, LTE is very bad, what then?
 
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Ridiculous. It compliments the stainless black tastefully, and at worst, is unobtrusive on other models. A boardroom shouldn’t be populated by plebs with such parochial and pedestrian tastes.

Oh and Tim Cook has been seen wearing it in the boardroom - red dot and all. But what would he know as the CEO of one of the worlds largest and most powerful companies?
 
It doesn’t work if you’re a T-Mobile business account holder. It’s been a nightmare. They said “can’t connect cellular to the same number for business account holders”
 
I'd still take a Submariner or Daytona over it any day. The Apple watch is a great Chinese watch until the battery runs out, but nothing beats the style and substance of a quality Swiss watch. Combine one with your phone and a Garmin band, and you have a far more powerful set up.



The age old argument comparing a proper swiss time piece is silly. The apple watch is a nice little device on your wrist. It is the perfect tool watch. It will never replace a proper fine swiss timepiece like a Patek, Omega or a Rolex, Brietling, Etc. Nor does it pretend to. When i was looking for my Speedmaster a Apple watch never entered into my thought process. Apples and Oranges( no pun intended).

I wouldn’t call it a ‘chinese’ watch even though its made in china. The build quality of the apple watch would put some sub $1000.00 swiss watches to shame. It even gets some respect for its build quality from many watch magazines and watch sites.

My Omegas will be with my family even after i die. True heirloom pieces. A Apple watch doesnt play in the same realm as a fine swiss time piece, but to its credit it never was meant to. It has a usefullness and a job to do as a true do it all tool watch/device. It has similar build quality to a midrange swiss time piece. It simply is a fantastic smart watch. Not a proper watch by any means, but it was never meant to be one.

A garmin watch is like comparing a ford focus to a rolls royce. The garmin watch is not a comparible device in form. Function to a extent. It is better for the outdoors right now. If you want a running watch the garmin fits the bill.

Overall the apple watch does more, has more apps and is compatible with more smart devices, home etc. Build quality isn’t comparable. The garmin has similar build quality to a timex. The apple watch to a swiss time piece. A cheaper one but i digress. Build quality is light years ahead, stainless steel, saphire, etc.
 
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my grandfather always told me - only 3 types of watches. Disposable, Dress and the ones you buy to leave your grandkids.

A $399 chunky gadget watch made in Taiwan is non of those. well, unless you the kind of person who thinks coca-cola is a dinner drink.

Not sure how old are you but my guess is your grandfather have lived on a different kind of time. There are far more options now. And I would get any time a stainless steal or ceramic Apple watch instead of these mechanical "classy" watches that serve one purpose only, tell you the time which ironically is displayed everywhere you look now days. I don't give a rats ass if they are timeless and certainly they won't be something the kids of the future would want to wear.
 
Not sure how old are you but my guess is your grandfather have lived on a different kind of time. There are far more options now. And I would get any time a stainless steal or ceramic Apple watch instead of these mechanical "classy" watches that serve one purpose only, tell you the time which ironically is displayed everywhere you look now days. I don't give a rats ass if they are timeless and certainly they won't be something the kids of the future would want to wear.


Fine swiss time pieces are not for kids. No kid of the future will be wearing a rolex or omega. That statement does not even make sense.

Nor could they afford one. There isnt a lot of 18 to twenty somethings buying rolexes, omegas etc. not because they wouldn’t want one, most cannot afford one. A ceramic apple watch is idiotic at best. Paying $1000 for something that will be obsolete in a few years compared to a fine swiss time piece that was put together by hand and will last a lifetime and most likely gain in value is no comparison at all.

Nor are they simply for grandfathers. A smartwatch and a fine swiss time piece are not in competition with each other. Most successfull men wear a fine swiss watch sometime in their life. Not elderly men. Young men, middle age old etc. Most watch collectors i know also own smartwatches such as a apple watch. This isn’t a comparison but a fact. You act like it is a rare occurrence for someone to own a fine timepiece. Most people own a traditional watch, not a smart watch. That is a fact. They have been around over a hundred years. And will continue to do so far into the future.

Clearly you do not understand why someone would buy a fine time piece. Its not about what it does, but what it is. A apple watch is about what it does, like a phone. I love my apple watch but i love my Omegas more. I look at my apple watch like i would my phone, toaster, microwave. I look at my swiss watches like a fine painting, as they are works of art on your wrist. And look forward to my kids getting something of mine that was a part of me for a good part of my life. That is priceless.
 
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Fine swiss time pieces are not for kids. No kid of the future will be wearing a rolex or omega. That statement does not even make sense.
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Well, I only assumed that a person would be a child first, before a fully grown adult.
And no, they won't be interested on something that belongs well to the past.
Just like you don't see them wearing these pocket watches.
People move with the time...... they don't tend to stay on the past.
These watches will be a thing of collectors.
 
Not sure how old are you but my guess is your grandfather have lived on a different kind of time. There are far more options now. And I would get any time a stainless steal or ceramic Apple watch instead of these mechanical "classy" watches that serve one purpose only, tell you the time which ironically is displayed everywhere you look now days. I don't give a rats ass if they are timeless and certainly they won't be something the kids of the future would want to wear.

I think it’s more helpful to think of traditional watches as Jewellery rather than focusing on function. They do tell the time but there have always been cheap watches which have done that. Buying a Rolex isn’t hugely different from buying an expensive ring or an expensive handbag. Although they probably hold their value a bit more.
 
I think it’s more helpful to think of traditional watches as Jewellery rather than focusing on function. They do tell the time but there have always been cheap watches which have done that. Buying a Rolex isn’t hugely different from buying an expensive ring or an expensive handbag. Although they probably hold their value a bit more.

Yes, but the original purpose why they were created was to tell the time. I highly doubt these would be the kind of Jewllery people will wear on the future and I also believe that people will care about their health far more then they do now.... and they would want to use their wrist to wear something from which they can benefit rather then something that is for a pure fashion.
 
Yes, but the original purpose why they were created was to tell the time. I highly doubt these would be the kind of Jewllery people will wear on the future and I also believe that people will care about their health far more then they do now.... and they would want to use their wrist to wear something from which they can benefit rather then something that is for a pure fashion.

That’s kind of like saying that people won’t buy expensive handbags going forward because there are rucksacks with water bottles built into them. Handbags were just designed for holding things after all.

People will always want nice things. Otherwise Apple wouldn’t bother with the Hermes range.

And also... I don’t even think it’s a given that Apple watches are the future. Apple have completely refused to publish sales figures and I see an awful lot more big standard fitbits on people’s wrists.
 
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I had the opposite experience. Bought the stainless series 3 coming from a stainless series 2. Both on os4, i couldn't tell a difference in speed at all. None, zero. Its not the same as going from the s1 single core to the s2 dual core. I dont think the difference between the s2 soc and the s3 soc is that great and certainly not a reason to upgrade.

I returned the watch 3 after a day and went back to my series 2. I couldn't stand the red dot. They went from classy black onyx like a traditional watch and replaced it with a ridiculous red color.

Looks like a kids toy watch. Not a classy digital smartwatch which the series 2 is. Thanks tim cook. Next year it will be a rainbow color.

The Series 1 had the S1P Dual Core Processor. Also, the Red Dot does not bother me, and the performance from a S0 to S3 is utterly ridiculous. You also seem to be in the MAJOR minority of people who do not notice a huge performance gain coming from the S2 to the S3. Maybe you had a faulty unit, or maybe you are just very hard to please?

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Not sure how old are you but my guess is your grandfather have lived on a different kind of time. There are far more options now. And I would get any time a stainless steal or ceramic Apple watch instead of these mechanical "classy" watches that serve one purpose only, tell you the time which ironically is displayed everywhere you look now days. I don't give a rats ass if they are timeless and certainly they won't be something the kids of the future would want to wear.
Your message is a good beginning point for my thoughts:
Yes, you can read the time in a lot of places nowadays; can you imagine a wall clock activated by a button (or shaking)?
I need to read the time quite a lot of times a day, because of my job. I take a glance at my Pebble, and time is there! (Plus notifications, etc.).
Since wrist watch invention, a nice looking watchface has been important, turning watches into fashion items. I’m not a runner, and I don’t need to make phone calls from the middle of a lake (!); I’m most of the time surrounded with people, and would feel weird keeping a conversation in such an exposed way (or having to reach my Airpod, resting with my phone in a pocket!).
Wearing a black screen is no beautiful, and having to recharge every night is absurd.
I don’t know what my grandchildren will like to wear, but THIS model will not be functioning! So they will have to take an automatic mechanical one, or perhaps one of those gray LCD screen (always on). Why are those “primitive” Casio watches still popular?
Nice Apple gadget, by the way. It makes a lot of wonderful things! But it’s not very good at telling the time ...
(TIP: if you’re out for a couple of days, you can wear the Apple Watch charger as a tie. You’ll have it always near, so your watch won’t become a bracelet).
 
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That’s kind of like saying that people won’t buy expensive handbags going forward because there are rucksacks with water bottles built into them. Handbags were just designed for holding things after all.

People will always want nice things. Otherwise Apple wouldn’t bother with the Hermes range.

And also... I don’t even think it’s a given that Apple watches are the future. Apple have completely refused to publish sales figures and I see an awful lot more big standard fitbits on people’s wrists.

The difference between hand bags and rucksacks is that one is used mainly by females and the other one is used by males. Difference between mechanical watch and smart watch is massive. One is created to tell the time and now used as a fashion accessory and the other is created with a lot of things in mind. I am not saying Apple Watch will be the future, all am saying is that ths jewellery things that some people are into (to tell others they are wearing something valuable) would be of no interest for future generations. People would be focused into something they will find it useful and look good at the same time (whatever that may be). Of course I could be wrong but this is what I believe.
 
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