While I agree that photography requires skill, gear is part of the equation to the outcome. Imagine someone paying thousands of dollars for wedding photography and the photographer shows up with iPhone claiming that he has enough skill to cover gears. That won't cut it.
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While I agree that photography requires skill, gear is part of the equation to the outcome. Imagine someone paying thousands of dollars for wedding photography and the photographer shows up with iPhone claiming that he has enough skill to cover gears. That won't cut it.
Exactly. Most people know portrait as either orientation or a single person picture, but wouldn't associate it with the Bokeh effect. Thats whats confusing. Its easier to teach someone a new catchy word like Bokeh than to reinvent what Portrait is already associated with.
LOL. I too, "know how to use the most powerful photo editing app". That doesn't mean I have the inclination to spend hours masking in PS to achieve the same effect as pressing a button.
I think HTC did this better with a different tech. The software technique has already been used by Sony, Smaug and GoPro. All this a few years back. Not saying that iPhone 7 is not good, just saying this magic happened a few years ago for other phones and every brand has improved their tech. Here is the link from 2014 but I am sure I have seen this tech way before. That being said I am glad Apple finally did it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-M8-Duo-Camera-explained-always-on-refocus_id54244
It's not the same thing, not real time and also too much user intervention is needed, which could impact on how good the result would be.
I always find this declaration, Random Android phone did it in a ****** half assed way, but hey they did it first.... Funny.
you missed the "convenience" part in my post.
an effect like that doesn't take hours. if it takes you hours then you don't know wtf you are doing in photoshop.
Mate. I'm a professional retoucher that started on PS 1.0. I know wtf I am doing.
You missed the part where I said:
It's not just the quality of the lenses and sensors. A professional camera is responsive and with all the manual functions within quick reach so as to not miss a unique moment that happens at weddings and other events where a professional photographer is hired.
Selective Focus is definitely not the same. The M8 tries to do something similar but is quite terrible at it.
This just show how misinformed or lack of information some Apple fan can be. This dual camera and blur effect wasn't invented by Apple. HTC done that with its M8 phone and similar kind of implementation already existed with serveral other phones. Apple is only late to the game and of course Apple fan will think it is all because of Apple
Well, it doesn't take 1/3 of second either hey and can be manipulated real time.
That's like someone saying he could do the same thing as a DSLR in the dark room... Well, WTH cares really.
99% of people can't do this with photoshop as well (even if they had it) and even those that can do it, may not want to spend those minutes days, weeks or even months after taking the shot to do it.
So, WTH are you even getting at
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BTW, Most people who do it in photoshop are horrible at it, or think its OK when there is more work to be done, even purported pros (and yeah, I've seen their "work").
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Selective Focus is definitely not the same. The M8 tries to do something similar but is quite terrible at it.
Yeah, it eats up the side of the person, even those that should be in the same focus plane.
That's what this thing is trying to avoid (and should as they have two cameras pointing at one subject).
people make claim that tech exist long ago. Nothing is new, and apple is late to the game.
Microsoft tablet exists long before ipad. but it was failure.
music player exists long before ipod.
laptop exists long before macbook.
smart phone exists long before iphone.
laptop fingerprint exists long before touchID (had one on Dell XPS and it was garbage)
NFC exists long before Apple Pay
that is true that many tech exist long before Apple implements it. but Apple won't releases its products until implementation of tech is close to perfection, simple to use for most people.
that is a big difference. this philosophy is the main reason why ipad, ipod, iphone, mac-book are so successful.
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if you have time and motivation to edit hundred of photos, then you are in minority. most people (doctor, carpenter, soccer mom, etc) don't have time or motivation to edit hundred of photos.
I have Nikon DSLR and I like that most of the pictures are good enough without editing. I never bother to use Photoshop.
Better? With a pair of low-res 4MP cameras that get washed out in bright light? With a slow-as-hell Snapdragon 801 that simply doesn't have the power to process image data fast enough to do anything in "real time"?
Sorry, but the iPhone 7P is vastly superior to every single phone that attempted to do this before or does it currently. Nobody is claiming they were first. But they are obviously superior. Just like the iPhone 5S with the fingerprint sensor. The Motorola Atrix had one before, but it was absolute garbage in comparison to Apples version.
And this post shows how misinformed some can be understanding there are multiple technical approaches towards solving a problem. Some are much better than others. As is the case here.
Apple wasn't first with the home computer, portable music player, smartphone, tablet, or smartwatch. But they still have managed to "get by" offering better solutions and products than other manufacturers, products which people will gladly pay a premium. And they don't blow up and catch fire when charging.
How the hell does this look like a gimmick? It's a much desired feature and now the iPhone 7 plus can do it. Apple is placing this highly desired feature in the hands of millions of people who love to take pictures. How is this a gimmick?
It doesn't take any know how. You just need a big sensor for it, which phone's don't have.
The point that everyone is arguing about how it compares to a DSLR should tell everyone something. All the examples people are posting look great. I just love when people complain about Apple giving us more features on their phone!
All dslr cameras cannot show live depth of field in the view finder or the display screen. I know that for a fact because my cannon dslr I had about 5 years ago couldn't do it. Maybe there are a few dslr cameras on the market now that can do it live on the display screen, I don't know because I haven't seen any.
But I do believe Apple have the right to brag since this is a huge feat. This is a game changer in cellphone photography. Now add two FaceTime HD cameras to the front and give us this feature for selfie portraits and it will change the game again.
good for you
can you relax?
you know your novel response was an opinion, well i shared mine too. no need to get all angry about it. this forum is filled with 15 year old girls it seems.
all i was saying was that to ME it is NOT worth the MONEY to have that FEATURE when I can can get the SAME EFFECT using photoshop.
editing on the fly and taking a picture/transfering it to your computer/adding all the blur you want. Which is more time consuming.
This is a welcomed feature and other improvements will come from 3rd party developers over time.