great...how about you move the lens to the centre so we don't cover it with our finger. Basics apple thats why I'm now a very happy samsung user.
When Apple announced the iPhone 7 Plus, one major feature it focused on was a new "Portrait" mode that allows the device's camera to simulate a shallow depth of field effect, similar to what can be achieved with a high-end DSLR.
Portrait mode wasn't ready to go when the iPhone 7 Plus shipped, but Apple promised to introduce it at a later date and did so today, with the release of iOS 10.1. Available as a beta feature, Portrait mode is built into iOS 10.1, and we went hands-on with it to see how well it performs.
Portrait mode uses the 56mm lens to capture the image and uses the wider 28mm lens to generate a depth map of a scene. Using the small differentiations between the 28mm and 56mm lenses, the iPhone separates the different layers of an image and uses machine learning techniques to apply a blur that simulates a shallow depth of field.Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos.
When shooting, Portrait is similar to other modes in the camera app, with a timer to take an image and a Tap to Focus tool to set the focus. One helpful feature is the ability to see the depth effect live before snapping a photo.
In order for the Portrait effect to work properly, you need good lighting and a subject that's properly placed -- it can't be too close or too far away.
Portrait mode is in beta, and is currently only available for developers running iOS 10.1. This Friday, Apple will also make iOS 10.1 available for public beta testers, so Portrait mode will be more widely available. There are some issues and quirks that still need to be worked out during the beta testing process, but as a first effort, Portrait mode can produce some impressive images.
Article Link: Hands-On With the New 'Portrait' Mode Beta Feature in the iPhone 7 Plus
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It's a gimmick because it's only a SW hack. Does not look nearly as good as from a DSLR.
Remember Blackberry had sort of an eco system and they were the leaders in smartphones. I am hoping Google does better not because I hate apple but because it's good for consumers. Eco system will last till you innovate in every area of the eco system. We know how much innovation has happened in the computer business.
So you are right we choose the best from what is available (stuck) and I just demand more from a company that claims to be innovative. I just realized the digression from the topic
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mmm... those edges need work, also people are forgetting that real DOF has Foreground & Background bluring, look at the hand on the sony image...
Also I wonder what background bokeh will look like it should appear soft and “creamy”, with smooth round circles of light and no hard edges.
Not bad for a phone but way off DSLR.
Also I wonder what background bokeh will look like it should appear soft and “creamy”, with smooth round circles of light and no hard edges.
Not bad for a phone but way off DSLR.
The thing with the plethora of Asian manufactures of phones that use Android is that they're generally very quick at the mark when it comes to releasing features but they're just not good at nailing or refining them because they're too busy working on the next half baked feature.
Ugh, I don't know...that did weird things to his hair at the edges. Overall the effect looks like stuff I used to do in Photoshop and one of my Ulead programs years ago. I do like how the lens does maintain the natural shape of his face though. For too long, our wider angled cell phone lenses have been making us look big nosed and chipmunk cheeked. This alone would make me want the larger slab of a phone. Very nice.It doesn't always get it right, but it does have gradation. Check out the chair compared to the laptop compared to outside the window:
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Lol, I took him to mean he's no Indiana Jones! Now Indy could rock a man purse!Ah...funny...because that would mean you're gay and no one would want that, right?
The size problem is easily solved by avoiding skinny jeans.
They could implement something similar using a depth sensor like kinect uses, rather than a second camera. That would have the advantage of providing more accurate depth information for a better gradual focus fall-off.
The main issue for me on phone cameras is they are too wide angle. I'd happily have just the telephoto lens from the 7+ without the wide angle one, but I realise I may be in the minority.
The main issue for me on phone cameras is they are too wide angle. I'd happily have just the telephoto lens from the 7+ without the wide angle one, but I realise I may be in the minority.
I don't have a 7+ so this is exactly what I thought it was. I was thinking to myself "seriously the 7+ had to be in landscape to take a picture?" but yeah this is pretty neat hope it makes it to the regular sized phone some day
I'm sure others have already said it: but you are 1000% incorrect.
In fact, EVERY DSLR "does that" by default.
It's actually the other way around from what you (and Apple!) say: shallow depth of field (DoF) (which is what this is simulating) is the default on DSLRs and you actually have to press a button to preview a deep DoF!!
It works like this:
1. You get the shallowest DoF with the lens "wide open" (i.e. Using the widest aperture... which is a smaller f-stop like f/1.4)
2. DSLRs are always in this "wide open" setting when "at rest" (i.e. When not taking a photo). So anytime you just look through the viewfinder (or preview on a screen) to frame a shot you are ALWAYS seeing the shortest DoF "preview" (with the most Bokeh).
3. This is done because you want as much light coming in as possible during this time to help with autofocus and metering.
4. If you are wanting to shoot with a deep DoF (so everything is in focus / nothing is blurry) you would select a narrower aperture (say f/16). This would be closer to what a photo would normally look like from an iPhone.
5. To get a "preview" (again, either through the viewfinder or on the screen) of this deep DoF you have to press the "DoF Preview" button... that will CLOSE DOWN the aperture to let you see (in real time!) what the photo will look like.
6. Anytime you're not holding down the DoF preview button you're seeing (live!!) the shallowest DoF possible: the one with the most background blur with the most Bokeh.
7. When you actually press the shutter button... what happens is that the aperture is closed down to your desired setting (like f/16) and the photo is taken me. This all happens so fast that it's essentially instantaneous on modern gear.
In summary: you (and Apple!!) are VERY wrong. A DSLR can (and does by default!) give you a preview of a shallow DoF.
err, yes it does. it has an aperture that changes size, and a max aperture rating based on its widest opening.
saying 'the iphone doesnt have an f-stop' is like saying a person doesnt have height.
Just at the store today. Had to check out the new Edition...
Every camera where you see any live view through the lens while framing (all DSLRs and all mirrorless) do this. No screen required: PHYSICS and the laws of nature give you the best Bokeh preview by default!
Looks terrible, mutilated the focus on the fence posts that are in the foreground.Yeah, so much better.
Oh man. Now you've done it!
Through pedantry you've actually given some credence to Apple's silly claim. Well, I challenge your pedantry with more pedantry...
You can replace the viewfinder of your DSLR with one that will allow you to more closely see the current DoF. For instance: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/590458-REG/Canon_3357B001_Eg_S_Super_Precision_Matte.html
That one goes down to f/1.8.
Other camera systems without prntaprisms (like medium format) also aren't so limited. Or, like you say, just use the live view screen
But, to be even more pedantic, we actually don't know what aperture the iPhone is simulating... so we have no way to say whether or not a DSLR can show that depth of field in the viewfinder
At any rate: we're arguing minutia. Apple's claim about not seeing a short depth of field on a DSLR is completely bogus!
Can you please point me to where Apple have said "DSLR cameras don't do live DOF preview and iPhone 7+ does? Or are we making stuff up as it goes now?
I think it's got definite potential, even at this early stage it's already looking pretty good.
We're a long, long way from a phone replacing my dslr, but I don't always carry that and you know what they say, the best camera is the one you have with you. I've taken some really nice shots with my iPhones over the years and this is just one more nicety to add to the available options.
We're a long, long way from a phone replacing my dslr, but I don't always carry that and you know what they say, the best camera is the one you have with you. I've taken some really nice shots with my iPhones over the years and this is just one more nicety to add to the available options.
It was interesting when I saw during the keynote. But when I saw this video, everything has change. Apple is claiming something about taking advantage of the two camera technology. This can easily be done with a any camera and a regular photo app. It can be done better with Pixelmator and Photoshop.
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You know it's a Japanese word right!
Phil Schiller in the keynote.
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2016/
76 min 30 seconds in.
To be fair he say even high end DSLRs can't do "Real time deep depth preview" on their screens. Which is true but they don't need to.